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Sdbucs wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:37 pm
Doctor wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:25 pm The NFL is changing. You don't need to be a dominant X to dominate. Look at Kupp and Puka.

While there will always be a place for the DK Metcalfs of the league, their status as the gold standard has come heavily under fire in recent years.
Someone on reddit was arguing with me that Chris Godwin was our WR1 because he puts up more fantasy points.

To me, WR1 = X WR. Like Mike Evans is 100% our WR1.... right?
I think it's a matter of agreeing on terminology. For me WR1 is a FF term, of which there are only 12.
A #1 WR is a football terms of which there are 32, but of course some teams #1 can leave a lot to be desired.

In Evans case he's been both, year and year out, for a decade now.

Metcalf has been a #1 WR but not much of a WR1, and a clear X.

Kupp a clear WR1 and #1 WR, but not at X.

You can also have 1a and 1b situations, which is what we have. We have a "#2 option" who the offense can clearly run through any given week. A healthy Godwin can Kupp carry an offense, no hesitation.

The main thing is that who your "first read" is isn't as locked on your X nearly as much as it was in the past. Neither is who your #1 WR is and definitely not who a WR1 is.
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Buc2 wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:42 pm
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Yes, yes it was ... a very sad, depressing time to be a Bucs fan. Was like wandering in the desert and you're eyes start playing tricks on you seeing an oasis at the horizon ... just make it to the horizon ... just survive ... nope, just another mirage ... but hey wait a minute, look just over there, is that a palm tree in the distance?
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But man, the Bennet/Perkins/Williamson seasons were bleak. I was running the kitchen at one of the CDB locations back then, we catered one or two skyboxes most home games. Usually by halftime the business people that would be hosting the event would head out unless they were fans of the opposing team. Got to watch more than a few games from the second half on. Gotta admit, there were days we'd pack it all up early and leave too.
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Why are quiet hands important? Because a defender is draped on you and there’s a 3 inch window for the ball…

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Sdbucs wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:37 pm
Doctor wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:25 pm The NFL is changing. You don't need to be a dominant X to dominate. Look at Kupp and Puka.

While there will always be a place for the DK Metcalfs of the league, their status as the gold standard has come heavily under fire in recent years.
Someone on reddit was arguing with me that Chris Godwin was our WR1 because he puts up more fantasy points.

To me, WR1 = X WR. Like Mike Evans is 100% our WR1.... right?
That dude is an idiot. Mike is absolutely WR1. He pulls doubles. Is schemed against. Keeps DCs up at night. Is the most lethal red zone receiving threat...maybe ever? Godwin is great, don't get it twisted, but he is absolutely Robin to Evans' Batman.
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Snake wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:26 pm Why are quiet hands important? Because a defender is draped on you and there’s a 3 inch window for the ball…

He knew exactly where that ball was going to be and got around the defender to make this catch. Then had the body control to get his knee down before his arm hit out of bounds. Super impressive.
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I think Egbuka made the team.

On a more serious note, do you let him play in the last preseason game, or have we seen enough?
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Buc2 wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:25 pm I think Egbuka made the team.

On a more serious note, do you let him play in the last preseason game, or have we seen enough?
Baker needs to get some snaps imo before the season, so it would be nice to have a series with all the starters at least.
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BucsNBills wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:30 pm
Buc2 wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:25 pm I think Egbuka made the team.

On a more serious note, do you let him play in the last preseason game, or have we seen enough?
Baker needs to get some snaps imo before the season, so it would be nice to have a series with all the starters at least.
Man. I wouldn’t have any starters out there.
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Maybe. McMillan injury is a game changer. I think that pushes Emeka outside and Shep back in to hold up the slot.

You may want to get at least one drive in with that crew before Atlanta.
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Doctor wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:06 pm Maybe. McMillan injury is a game changer. I think that pushes Emeka outside and Shep back in to hold up the slot.

You may want to get at least one drive in with that crew before Atlanta.
I expect McMillan is fine. Still 3 weeks to Atlanta.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:23 pm
Doctor wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:06 pm Maybe. McMillan injury is a game changer. I think that pushes Emeka outside and Shep back in to hold up the slot.

You may want to get at least one drive in with that crew before Atlanta.
I expect McMillan is fine. Still 3 weeks to Atlanta.
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The didn’t immobilize him on the cart. He was moving his head/neck left and right.

Didn’t like seeing the neck brace but let’s hope that was just precautionary.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 7:29 pm

The didn’t immobilize him on the cart. He was moving his head/neck left and right.

Didn’t like seeing the neck brace but let’s hope that was just precautionary.
This might have been the reason for the neck brace


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Egbuka is going to be insanely good - and look at when Bridgewater gets the pass in the air.

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That's cool. Nice find!
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Pirate Life wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 8:18 pm Egbuka is going to be insanely good - and look at when Bridgewater gets the pass in the air.

Egbuka will be a stud. Prior to the Bucs re-signing Godwin, that's who I was hoping they were targeting. I didn't think they'd draft him after re-signing Godwin.
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Went from having the deposit WR in the league to having depend on our rookie and Mike Evans paper-mache hamstrings.

Moral of the story, you're never "set" at any position, especially with the injury producing program that Bowles is running.
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So now we're blaming the HC for injuries?

Geez Kyla Shanahan and Sean McVay better be on alert.
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Doctor wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:38 pm So now we're blaming the HC for injuries?

Geez Kyla Shanahan and Sean McVay better be on alert.
Even I can't lay this one at his feet.

I don't think I'd have any starters out there next week though.
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I think we likely will as it looks like our starting 3 WRs are going to be Evans, EE, and Shep. You typically don't want week 1 to be the first time that exact line up walks onto the field together in live action.

Even Brady was getting in one drive in the 3rd preseason game.
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Josh Grizzard Synergy Keeping Baker Mayfield On The Bench - JoeBucsFan.com - Tampa Bay Bucs Blog, Buccaneers News https://share.google/WiiqAKyRGGO9kgaAM

Spoke too soon. Looks like our synergy is high enough?
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Watching Joe Burrow run around last night was just cringe. I don't need the anxiety.
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Doctor wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 6:02 pm Josh Grizzard Synergy Keeping Baker Mayfield On The Bench - JoeBucsFan.com - Tampa Bay Bucs Blog, Buccaneers News https://share.google/WiiqAKyRGGO9kgaAM

Spoke too soon. Looks like our synergy is high enough?
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While I'm not a fan of the call, arrogance is a judgment call I'm far from willing to make of the guy that's operating on 1000 times the information and insight that I have. And Bowles does have a good opening day record.
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You don’t want to risk Mike and Emeka right now and I don’t think you want Baker out there without those guys. They’re getting practice reps together.

What does two series in a pre-season game really accomplish other than exacerbate the risk of going into week 1 with Rahkim Jarrett as a starter again?
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So if Evans or Egbuka or Baker get injured week 1, it would be better for us because it happened during the season and not the 3rd preseason game?

Ive always been amused by fans who believe players are somehow more prone to injuries in the preseason and the last week or 2 of the season. Yet they're all good to go during the other 4 months of the season.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:22 am So if Evans or Egbuka or Baker get injured week 1, it would be better for us because it happened during the season and not the 3rd preseason game?

Ive always been amused by fans who believe players are somehow more prone to injuries in the preseason and the last week or 2 of the season. Yet they're all good to go during the other 4 months of the season.
Why do you insist on putting words into people's mouths?

Week 1 in Atlanta counts. In reality every one of our players is more likely to get injured in that game as they'll play their full slate of snaps. Buffalo doesn't count. Why risk it for two series when the team is already severely banged up?

What's the logic? They need the reps? If they truly need the reps we're in big trouble regardless.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:44 am
Bootz wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:22 am So if Evans or Egbuka or Baker get injured week 1, it would be better for us because it happened during the season and not the 3rd preseason game?

Ive always been amused by fans who believe players are somehow more prone to injuries in the preseason and the last week or 2 of the season. Yet they're all good to go during the other 4 months of the season.
Why do you insist on putting words into people's mouths?

Week 1 in Atlanta counts. In reality every one of our players is more likely to get injured in that game as they'll play their full slate of snaps. Buffalo doesn't count. Why risk it for two series when the team is already severely banged up?

What's the logic? They need the reps? If they truly need the reps we're in big trouble regardless.
I asked a question. One you chose to dodge answering.

Is it better is a player is injured against Atlanta week 1 vs preseason week 3?
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It's a stupid question that has no legitimate answer.
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Buc2 wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:41 pm It's a stupid question that has no legitimate answer.
Exactly. Same as the "worry" of a player getting snaps in the week 3 PS game.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:58 pm
Buc2 wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:41 pm It's a stupid question that has no legitimate answer.
Exactly. Same as the "worry" of a player getting snaps in the week 3 PS game.
I don't disagree with that either. But, the whole argument seems pointless. If I were coach, I'd probably play my starters for a couple of series' in every preseason game we played.
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No injuries ever would be best, failing that, I would definitely rather the players get hurt in a game that matters vs a meaningless game. I assume everyone would?
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