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King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:00 pm @Max

"Since week 2".......Gonna assume there's a reason you chose to eliminate 1 game of data. Who did they play week 1 and what was the result?

Don't try to create your own narrative.
They played the Packers on an off-day. I'm disregarding that game because it obviously isn't representative of either team.

Rodgers earned a 43.3 PFF grade that game, so you could add that to the list of subpar QB play they faced this season.
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:00 pm @Max

"Since week 2".......Gonna assume there's a reason you chose to eliminate 1 game of data. Who did they play week 1 and what was the result?

Don't try to create your own narrative.
I think the Saints were fortunate to play Green Bay week 1 and if they played them now they'd lose by double digits.

But I get it.
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Dread wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:10 pm
King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:00 pm @Max

"Since week 2".......Gonna assume there's a reason you chose to eliminate 1 game of data. Who did they play week 1 and what was the result?

Don't try to create your own narrative.
I think the Saints were fortunate to play Green Bay week 1 and if they played them now they'd lose by double digits.

But I get it.
You know people say the same thing about us and the Cowboys. It's a terrible argument to make either way. The epitome of talking out of your ass. Throwing shit at a wall knowing nothing will stick.
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Headlines: Did the Bucs just break Sean Payton?

That will work for me
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uscbucsfan wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:47 am Anyone else wish this was a 1pm game?

I know my kids will be nagging me to go trick-or-treating during the 4th Quarter.
I’m manning the candy table in the driveway. TV will be set up in the garage next to a Cooler full of beer. :D
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:21 pm
Dread wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:10 pm
I think the Saints were fortunate to play Green Bay week 1 and if they played them now they'd lose by double digits.

But I get it.
You know people say the same thing about us and the Cowboys. It's a terrible argument to make either way. The epitome of talking out of your ass. Throwing shit at a wall knowing nothing will stick.
Except the Cowboys looked good that game week 1 and have looked good since then. That Bucs v Cowboys game just came down to who had the ball last is all, which happens alot in the NFL.

The Packers on the other hand looked way different week 1 then they have in the every game since.

Kudos to the Saints for opening the season ready to play and taking to the Packers. But are they the team that whipped Aaron Rodgers and the Packers or are they the team who got whipped by Sam Darnold and the Panthers and lost at home to Danny Dimes and the Giants?

Another way to look at it is have the Saints looked anywhere close to as good as they did week one in the 5 games they've played since? I'd argue they haven't, which support the view that they were fortunate to catch Green Bay when they did.

If the Bucs played Dallas this week it would likely be a similar type of game as week 1 since both teams have proven thus far to be who they were that night.
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Prolly said this already but I hope Tyler Johnson has a really big game. If he lays the hit on the corners he can do some damage.
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Hey Bootz, think we might see Siemian?
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:51 pm Headlines: Did the Bucs just break Sean Payton?

That will work for me
Doubtful. Sean Payton will likely surprise the Bucs once again with his gameplan. He's had our number for years, the only solace I have for this game is we are finally the better team with a better QB for the first time I can remember.
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Saint WR Deonte Harris #11 was back at practice today. Hopefully the Bucs tell Pinion to kick it nice and high so any returns are mitigated. I'll take 40yd punts all game from Pinion providing there are no return yards.

The Saints lack explosive playmakers outside of Kamara so don't give them freebies in the return game.

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Dread wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:42 pm Saint WR Deonte Harris #11 was back at practice today. Hopefully the Bucs tell Pinion to kick it nice and high so any returns are mitigated. I'll take 40yd punts all game from Pinion providing there are no return yards.

The Saints lack explosive playmakers outside of Kamara so don't give them freebies in the return game.

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Well I do like Darden having the longest punt return already. Plus I'm fine taking the kickoff for the standard 25 yard line.
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Unless we do this. October 28, 2001



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Now that was a hit!
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Saints' David Onyemata


Any chance he plays.
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Jamesis Winston was on ESPN recently, he said he want to beat Bucs so bad.


Winston, Bucs want to kick your ass too
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:33 pm Saints' David Onyemata


Any chance he plays.
Highly probable. He's just coming off PED suspension so his snap count might limited, but he'll play for sure imo
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Dread wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:38 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:33 pm Saints' David Onyemata


Any chance he plays.
Highly probable. He's just coming off PED suspension so his snap count might limited, but he'll play for sure imo
Maybe he will take a slide like Dougie did.
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Did I hear right that we ran some plays last week with 7 offensive linemen
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:01 pm Think our stadium will atleast make Winston go silent count? What maybe half the plays?
... we'll find out in about a month and a half?
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:01 pm Think our stadium will atleast make Winston go silent count? What maybe half the plays?
Maybe when they play HERE, it's possible.
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Uhh Yeah, it was a mistake. But a carefully worded mistake. It came from Tom talking about Seattle's stadium and having to silent count when you are there.
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:00 pm @Max

"Since week 2".......Gonna assume there's a reason you chose to eliminate 1 game of data. Who did they play week 1 and what was the result?

Don't try to create your own narrative.
During week 1, I made comments that Aaron Rodgers looked checked out. I even texted my friends asking if they thought he might play like crap just to get traded. After all, he played bad enough to get McCarthy fired. The whole GB team seemed like they didn't want to be out there. That was an aberration game for the Packers. We will see if they really are any good this Sunday. Until then, I am not considering them good. Also their pass rush is getting pressure the same rate as last year. But they aren't finishing.
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kaimaru wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:26 pm
King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:00 pm @Max

"Since week 2".......Gonna assume there's a reason you chose to eliminate 1 game of data. Who did they play week 1 and what was the result?

Don't try to create your own narrative.
During week 1, I made comments that Aaron Rodgers looked checked out. I even texted my friends asking if they thought he might play like crap just to get traded. After all, he played bad enough to get McCarthy fired. The whole GB team seemed like they didn't want to be out there. That was an aberration game for the Packers. We will see if they really are any good this Sunday. Until then, I am not considering them good. Also their pass rush is getting pressure the same rate as last year. But they aren't finishing.
As if your alternative facts based opinion has any merit on commonsense and reality. Saying the 3rd best defense is "not good" says more about you than it does them
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:33 pm
kaimaru wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:26 pm

During week 1, I made comments that Aaron Rodgers looked checked out. I even texted my friends asking if they thought he might play like crap just to get traded. After all, he played bad enough to get McCarthy fired. The whole GB team seemed like they didn't want to be out there. That was an aberration game for the Packers. We will see if they really are any good this Sunday. Until then, I am not considering them good. Also their pass rush is getting pressure the same rate as last year. But they aren't finishing.
As if your alternative facts based opinion has any merit on commonsense and reality. Saying the 3rd best defense is "not good" says more about you than it does them
I meant as a team, not as a defense. They have a good defense. The secondary is playing lights out. I meant the offensive side of things.
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kaimaru wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:47 pm
King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:33 pm

As if your alternative facts based opinion has any merit on commonsense and reality. Saying the 3rd best defense is "not good" says more about you than it does them
I meant as a team, not as a defense. They have a good defense. The secondary is playing lights out. I meant the offensive side of things.
The Saints certainly are not as good on offense.

Bottom 3 in completion %
Bottom 2 in passing attempts
Bottom 3 in yards
Near the bottom in explosive plays (20+yd pass)

With stats like that you have to be very good on defense if you're 4-2.
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Overall Week 8 rankings by PFF

Offense
PlayerPosition RankGrade
Tom Brady1/3492.2
Leonard Fournette19/6573.9
Antonio Brown3/12187.4
Chris Godwin15/12178.0
Mike Evans48/12170.3
OJ Howard57/6851.2
Rob Gronkowski11/6878.2
Ryan Jensen9/3672.2
Alex Cappa23/7470.1
Ali Marpet4/7484.0
Tristan Wirfs15/7874.6
Donovan Smith5/7879.3
Defense
PlayerPosition RankGrade
Ross Cockrell29/11269.0
Jamal Dean9/11276.4
Carlton Davis19/11273.9
Richard ShermanN/A50.5
Mike Edwards29/8767.2
Jordan Whitehead32/8766.0
Antoine Winfield Jr21/8768.9
Devin White66/8643.2
Lavonte David19/8664.9
Steve McLendonN/A49.7
Ndamukong Suh93/12049.4
Rakeem Nunez-Roches59/12061.2
Vita Vea14/12076.5
William Gholston41/12066.1
Shaquil Barrett10/11084.1
Jason Pierre-Paul88/11058.6
Joe Tryon-Shoyinka95/11055.3
STs
PlayerPosition RankGrade
Ryan SuccopN/A60.1
Bradley Pinion19/3261.0
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Still hates White. To be expected.
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I predict Winston going rogue , throwing a pick and cat face Payton melting down
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Snake wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:14 pm Still hates White. To be expected.
They have had a reason this season.
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:25 pm
Snake wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:14 pm Still hates White. To be expected.
They have had a reason this season.
Seconded.
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Saints will use all four downs - maybe.
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Sometimes, I cook waffles on my muffler.
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Blue ones?
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Rocker wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:49 pm Sometimes, I cook waffles on my muffler.
Please keep the subject matter about football - thx
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Rocker wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:49 pm Sometimes, I cook waffles on my muffler.
You military folks and your weird euphemisms.
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