2023 NFL Coaches Hot Seat Thread
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I take it you've never seen Britt play defensive reps. He's on ST for a reason.
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We will select another defensive player from LSU regardless. Always
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After Dennis went out in that game he quickly whiffed on a tackle in the backfield. We are thin at LB.
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He took some of the worst reps I've seen from our LBs last season in that week 18 game vs Atlanta. I know we had the playoffs wrapped up but holy hell he was bad.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:46 pmAfter Dennis went out in that game he quickly whiffed on a tackle in the backfield. We are thin at LB.
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Another oneThe Washington Commanders are expected to move on from head coach Ron Rivera after the end of the season.
Via CBS Sports insider Jonathan Jones.
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Unlocking the potential for a Rivera to Charlotte redemption arc.
That'd be rich.
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Yes he is.acmillis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:27 pmThat's a horrible way to run a sports franchise. You're saying if NYG "earns" the #1 overall pick, they should not draft a QB because they already have a highly compensated QB...and that's the only reason they shouldn't?Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:53 pm
You should. There's a hard salary cap for a reason. It would be foolish to allocate a high 1st on a QB when you KNOW he won't be playing because the guy you currently have has a lot of guarantees on the deal.
Jones deal is tricky. It's fully guaranteed for injury, meaning this QB coming off of an ACL tear would get fully compensated if A. He's not healthy next season and this goes into the following year or B. He gets injured again. And spoiler alert, Jones has been pretty injury prone.
A lot of fans run on "the most ideal" philosophy. The goal being to always shoot for the most possible upside, having two first round QBs is a huge "misallocation of resources" and makes their heads explode. Regardless of if one has fallen of favor, you have to keep pretending like he hasn't because those resources are committed.
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Phantom wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:22 pm Crazy
Panthers owner David Tepper has fired every HC he's employed since buying the team in 2018, all during the season.
•Ron Rivera was fired after Week 13 in 2019.
•Matt Rhule was fired after Week 5 in 2022.
•Frank Reich was fired after Week 12 in 2023.
The Panthers are a team with a rookie QB, poor Oline, no weapons on offense, no 1st round pick in the 2024 draft & an owner who fires everyone. Yikes!
Tepper owns the MLS soccer team CharlotteFC as well, where he’s fired 2 head coaches in a matter of 18 months.
What a disaster of an owner. Be happy he’s not the #Titans owner.
That's how it's done. Keep firing coaches until you get one that starts on a win streak.
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Devin White is the 2nd worst run defender and 7th worst pass defender, at his position per PFF. Can Britt be much worse? Only 1 and 6 players are than White
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Again, I take it you have never seen Britt play defensive snaps.
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White is trash. If the choice was expensive trash or cheap trash taking up the roster spot next season, give me cheap trash.
I’m guessing we roll with Dennis and they pay LVD for another season if he’s down.
As of today? Can’t bring myself to care who plays on Sunday.
I’m guessing we roll with Dennis and they pay LVD for another season if he’s down.
As of today? Can’t bring myself to care who plays on Sunday.
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You guys might get your wet dream of seeing KJ Britt play
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It can be worse.
It's about to be DW and Britt as of two starters.
It's about to be DW and Britt as of two starters.
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Every time you reply here you prove more and more that you have no clue what you're speaking about.
Britt does all of those things at an alarming rate. You're embarrassing yourself trying to pile on DW and elevate Britt into something he isn't.
I'll take it further. Ask yourself this question: Why would the Bucs place Sirvochea Dennis, a 6th round rookie, ahead of a now 3 year vet on the depth chart?
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For the record, I suggested trying Markees Watts.
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What does a LB have to do with hot seat coaches?
This group gets sidetracked so easily.
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Funny, I hold Bowles far more directly accountable for LB play than I do QB play. While the whole team is his responsibility, I expect his influence to be strongest where he is which is DBs out the the whole defense.
I'm far more upset at Bowles when Neal or White blow a coverage than Baker misses a read. And while a lot of guys are developing nicely, you can't help but be disappointed some guys have stalled.
Is every success of every player on the HC? No. That's a bit absolutist. And so far we have developed far more winners on this roster than not.
I'm far more upset at Bowles when Neal or White blow a coverage than Baker misses a read. And while a lot of guys are developing nicely, you can't help but be disappointed some guys have stalled.
Is every success of every player on the HC? No. That's a bit absolutist. And so far we have developed far more winners on this roster than not.
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I simply want DW to know there is a consequence to him not being assignment sound. He doesn't have the luxury of being a safety like Polamalu and just abandoning his assignment and going off script. Polamalu also took great angles and rarely missed a tackle. Britt rarely is on the field and I sure as heck don't pay attention to the defensive side on preseason. Maybe there is zero justification for him being in the NFL. But to change my words to "Britt would be better than DW" and not "It's not like it can get that much worse" is a real stretchBootz wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:26 pmEvery time you reply here you prove more and more that you have no clue what you're speaking about.
Britt does all of those things at an alarming rate. You're embarrassing yourself trying to pile on DW and elevate Britt into something he isn't.
I'll take it further. Ask yourself this question: Why would the Bucs place Sirvochea Dennis, a 6th round rookie, ahead of a now 3 year vet on the depth chart?
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Comment made about Bowles not benching Devin White. Rebuttal being he doesn’t have much choice but to play him. MDB thinks Markees Watts could play LB. Bootz doesn’t think Britt is any good.
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Nice tl:dr summary! Thanks for that.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:13 amComment made about Bowles not benching Devin White. Rebuttal being he doesn’t have much choice but to play him. MDB thinks Markees Watts could play LB. Bootz doesn’t think Britt is any good.
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Whoever the next coach is, and whatever defensive scheme he runs, LB will be a HUGE need. White has likely played his way out of town. Even if LVD decides to play another year, the end is nigh. Dennis has been disappointing thus far (though it's early) and Britt is like the Gen Z Kevin Minter, which is to say, slow and boxy.
I would love to see a Day Three pick on GBR Luke Reimer (I know, wouldn't it be great etc.)
I would love to see a Day Three pick on GBR Luke Reimer (I know, wouldn't it be great etc.)
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There is going to be a lot of huge needs for the Bucs next year. It could get even worse if the Bucs lose some key players to free agency.MJW wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:24 am Whoever the next coach is, and whatever defensive scheme he runs, LB will be a HUGE need. White has likely played his way out of town. Even if LVD decides to play another year, the end is nigh. Dennis has been disappointing thus far (though it's early) and Britt is like the Gen Z Kevin Minter, which is to say, slow and boxy.
I would love to see a Day Three pick on GBR Luke Reimer (I know, wouldn't it be great etc.)
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I'm getting to the age where I begin to wonder if I'll every see this team be good again.MJW wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:24 am Whoever the next coach is, and whatever defensive scheme he runs, LB will be a HUGE need. White has likely played his way out of town. Even if LVD decides to play another year, the end is nigh. Dennis has been disappointing thus far (though it's early) and Britt is like the Gen Z Kevin Minter, which is to say, slow and boxy.
I would love to see a Day Three pick on GBR Luke Reimer (I know, wouldn't it be great etc.)
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What are you taking about. We've got a lot of spots locked up young and talented. Are there holes, sure, there are holes to fill every offseason. There's turnover every offseason.
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Take note Todd Bowels.
Frank Reich's stubbornness to adapt' led to firing from Panthers
https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/ ... qYGXq6JiG0
Frank Reich's stubbornness to adapt' led to firing from Panthers
https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/ ... qYGXq6JiG0
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Ben Johnson
Speaking of Bryce Young, I'll see him in action in person. He's small, right?"The expectation across the NFL is that Panthers’ owner David Tepper will look to hire an offensive-minded head coach, someone who can help Bryce Young fulfill the potential that Carolina saw when it made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2023 NFL draft.
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I've heard his name in relation with them too. I think he has Carolina ties? I really don't know why a hot head coaching candidate like him would take THAT job though? He should have plenty of options.Phantom wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:11 am Ben Johnson
The expectation across the NFL is that Panthers’ owner David Tepper will look to hire an offensive-minded head coach, someone who can help Bryce Young fulfill the potential that Carolina saw when it made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2023 NFL draft.
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He could swap places with a middle school QB and nobody would question it.Phantom wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:11 am Ben Johnson
Speaking of Bryce Young, I'll see him in action in person. He's small, right?"The expectation across the NFL is that Panthers’ owner David Tepper will look to hire an offensive-minded head coach, someone who can help Bryce Young fulfill the potential that Carolina saw when it made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2023 NFL draft.
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Looks like Ron Rivera, Dennis Allen, Vrabel, and Bellichick moved one step closer to getting the ax.
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I really don’t think Kraft will ever fire BB.