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I think the Bears are a definite dark horse to get Harbaugh. The question is whether they can match what the Chargers are reportedly offering for hi. But there's a reason Chicago hasn't put their confidence behind Eberfluus coming back yet. And if I'm Harbaugh, how can you not want to go to Chicago? All those draft picks, young talent on the roster, a defense that just keeps getting better. I know the Chargers are enticing, but I would put that Bears job right up there with that, and when you add in the chance to coach in the place you once played and the history behind Soldier Field, that's the job I would want if it came calling.
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Sorry @Navybuc forgot to post this too. Eberflus is safe

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Former Bills’ defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier will interview for the Chargers’ vacant head coaching job, per league source.
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Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:03 am
Former Bills’ defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier will interview for the Chargers’ vacant head coaching job, per league source.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:19 am
Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:03 am
Good black coach
Is this what they call a DEI hire?
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Rooney rule
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:19 am
Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:03 am
Good black coach
Why the fuck did you feel a need to throw a qualifier in there?
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13F11B wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:12 pm
Bootz wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:19 am

Good black coach
Why the fuck did you feel a need to throw a qualifier in there?
Many would say historically it's a disqualifier :) ;)
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13F11B wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:12 pm
Bootz wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:19 am

Good black coach
Why the fuck did you feel a need to throw a qualifier in there?
It's called the Rooney Rule. And it's outdated and no longer needed as there are plenty of minority head coaches and GMs these days.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:35 am Not a HC, but a very talked about situation around here





The Bears also fired their QB coach. This indicates to me they plan to stick with Fields, at least in the short term. They might still draft a QB, but I doubt it's at 1.
I was of the mind they needed to keep Fields and make a change in coaching on the offensive side. Many Bears fans I know were of that mind as well.
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BuccaNOLEer wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:50 pm
13F11B wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:12 pm

Why the fuck did you feel a need to throw a qualifier in there?
It's called the Rooney Rule. And it's outdated and no longer needed as there are plenty of minority head coaches and GMs these days.
No shit Sherlock. Please reread the above. You have a tendency to post repetitive things that they have already posted.
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Pete Carroll will not longer be the head coach in SEA:

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Wow, end of an Era.

Wonder if Canales goes back to Seattle?
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acmillis wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:24 pm Pete Carroll will not longer be the head coach in SEA:

Stepping into an Arians role.

Probably a good idea. It'll be interesting to see who the Seahawks hire.
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acmillis wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:24 pm Pete Carroll will not longer be the head coach in SEA:

That's a shocker. Very interesting HC opening.
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acmillis wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:24 pm Pete Carroll will not longer be the head coach in SEA:

Easy to forget Pete is old as hell.

Hope he spends the extra time well.
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Kona wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:26 pm Wow, end of an Era.

Wonder if Canales goes back to Seattle?
They didn’t think enough of him to make him OC. Doubtful they’d make him HC.
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I think Seattle might make a serious play for Dan Quinn.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:54 pm I think Seattle might make a serious play for Dan Quinn.
That sounds like a perfect fit
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Didn't seem like much of a Black Monday, but slowly and surely, the number of openings are rising. I don't think we've seen the last of it, either. Bellichick could still be out in NE. The Saints have yet to put their confidence behind Allen staying. And I don't know about Bowles...some insiders I've listened to this week say he could be out if it's a bad loss on Monday. A win or close loss and he prolly stays.
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Snake wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:35 pm Easy to forget Pete is old as hell.

Hope he spends the extra time well.
At least he can go out knowing he is one of only three men who reached the pinnacle at both the college and pro levels.
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That wild be so short sighted
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Doctor wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:47 pm That wild be so short sighted
What would be short-sighted, wise one?
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:20 pm
Doctor wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:47 pm That wild be so short sighted
What would be short-sighted, wise one?
Do kind of wish he’d quote stuff.
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Navybuc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:01 pm Didn't seem like much of a Black Monday, but slowly and surely, the number of openings are rising. I don't think we've seen the last of it, either. Bellichick could still be out in NE. The Saints have yet to put their confidence behind Allen staying. And I don't know about Bowles...some insiders I've listened to this week say he could be out if it's a bad loss on Monday. A win or close loss and he prolly stays.
I think that his players going rogue and scoring a victory formation TD might have put the nail in the coffin of Dennis Allen.
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Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:14 am
13F11B wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:29 am

Assuming Jim would leave the cherry job he has right now. I thought Michigan just backed up two Brink's trucks to his home with an offer for the future. Did I hear incorrectly?
Jim Harbaugh has a 10 year 125 million contract offer.
That he has been sitting on for almost a month. Says a lot
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13F11B wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:16 am
Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:14 am

Jim Harbaugh has a 10 year 125 million contract offer.
Yeah, I can't see many NFL teams putting that type of money up. He might get a 15-20 million a year offer, but no guarantee of 10 years.
The Raiders gave Gruden a 10/100 contract so it's not out of the realm of possibility
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BuccaNOLEer wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:50 pm
13F11B wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:12 pm

Why the fuck did you feel a need to throw a qualifier in there?
It's called the Rooney Rule. And it's outdated and no longer needed as there are plenty of minority head coaches and GMs these days.
3 HCs or less than 10% is acceptable?
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kaimaru wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:58 pm
BuccaNOLEer wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:50 pm

It's called the Rooney Rule. And it's outdated and no longer needed as there are plenty of minority head coaches and GMs these days.
3 HCs or less than 10% is acceptable?
Why is color even a factor? We shouldn’t hire head coaches because they’re a certain color. We should hire them by qualifications. It’s like telling the NBA teams, “Hey you need to make at least 50% of your roster white.” Imagine the cuts you would see. I don’t care if it’s 100% black, 50% black or 0% black…as long as we have 32 of the best and most qualified HCs in the NFL, that’s what matters most, IMO.
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Navybuc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:39 pm
kaimaru wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:58 pm

3 HCs or less than 10% is acceptable?
Why is color even a factor? We shouldn’t hire head coaches because they’re a certain color. We should hire them by qualifications. It’s like telling the NBA teams, “Hey you need to make at least 50% of your roster white.” Imagine the cuts you would see. I don’t care if it’s 100% black, 50% black or 0% black…as long as we have 32 of the best and most qualified HCs in the NFL, that’s what matters most, IMO.
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Navybuc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:39 pm
kaimaru wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:58 pm

3 HCs or less than 10% is acceptable?
Why is color even a factor? We shouldn’t hire head coaches because they’re a certain color. We should hire them by qualifications. It’s like telling the NBA teams, “Hey you need to make at least 50% of your roster white.” Imagine the cuts you would see. I don’t care if it’s 100% black, 50% black or 0% black…as long as we have 32 of the best and most qualified HCs in the NFL, that’s what matters most, IMO.
And yet every year we have a bunch of coaches that are not qualified. It's on the job training. 13 teams, about 40% in their history has never had a black head coach that wasn't an interim coach. 13! Are you saying of those hundreds of coaches they have had there was not one minority candidate that wasn't a leader of men and knew Xs and Os well enough to be hired?
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kaimaru wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:00 pm
Navybuc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:39 pm

Why is color even a factor? We shouldn’t hire head coaches because they’re a certain color. We should hire them by qualifications. It’s like telling the NBA teams, “Hey you need to make at least 50% of your roster white.” Imagine the cuts you would see. I don’t care if it’s 100% black, 50% black or 0% black…as long as we have 32 of the best and most qualified HCs in the NFL, that’s what matters most, IMO.
And yet every year we have a bunch of coaches that are not qualified. It's on the job training. 13 teams, about 40% in their history has never had a black head coach that wasn't an interim coach. 13! Are you saying of those hundreds of coaches they have had there was not one minority candidate that wasn't a leader of men and knew Xs and Os well enough to be hired?
So if you're interviewing a black coach and a white coach, and the white coach gives the better interview and is well-qualified, you believe the black coach should get the job just so they can improve their numbers? Because you feel sorry for them that since "our team has never had a black head coach, we should give him the job?"

If an owner or GM hires a white coach over a black coach because of prejudice, shame on them. There are situations in schools and organizations where black presidents won't hire a white guy. Shame on them, too. Hell, look at Georgetown. Are they racist because they keep hiring black basketball coaches?

I would love to see more minority coaches, but I don't want teams to hire minorities because they feel sorry for their numbers or because they feel "they have to." I want them to hire coaches that are legitimately the best candidate. Demeco Ryans was a hell of a candidate and has proven to be a hell of a coach. I'd take that guy here over our poor head coach here any day. Can we do a minority swap?

Which minority coordinators are out there, though, that should be head coaches? Eric Bieniemy is prolly most worthy, although he had a bad year in Washington. I think people are wary of hiring Raheem Morris because of how bad he was here, but I think he should get another shot. And if owners think they're the best candidate, they should hire them. But I don't want owners hiring a guy "just to even the numbers more."
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Terry Tate wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:09 pm
Navybuc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:01 pm Didn't seem like much of a Black Monday, but slowly and surely, the number of openings are rising. I don't think we've seen the last of it, either. Bellichick could still be out in NE. The Saints have yet to put their confidence behind Allen staying. And I don't know about Bowles...some insiders I've listened to this week say he could be out if it's a bad loss on Monday. A win or close loss and he prolly stays.
I think that his players going rogue and scoring a victory formation TD might have put the nail in the coffin of Dennis Allen.
The Saints are a good football team that just needs an above average QB. Carr isn't it. They are 1 team that might try to move up in the draft to take a QB.
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GreatTimes wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:38 pm
Terry Tate wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:09 pm

I think that his players going rogue and scoring a victory formation TD might have put the nail in the coffin of Dennis Allen.
The Saints are a good football team that just needs an above average QB. Carr isn't it. They are 1 team that might try to move up in the draft to take a QB.
The Saints have put themselves in perennial cap hell. Year after year they pretend they are contending for a SB when in reality they are an old roster with no cap space.
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kaimaru wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:58 pm
BuccaNOLEer wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:50 pm

It's called the Rooney Rule. And it's outdated and no longer needed as there are plenty of minority head coaches and GMs these days.
3 HCs or less than 10% is acceptable?
12% of the population is black. So yeah, that's pretty close.
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