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Snake wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:36 pm The Eagles have moved off of Super Bowl winning coaches and quarterbacks. I do think Sirianni is at risk of getting fired if they lose to the Buccaneers.
Apples and oranges.

Reid went 12-20 his last 2 years in Philly and missed the playoffs both years.

After the Eagles won it all with Pederson, he went 22-25 over the next 3 years and badly lost that locker room in his final year.

I don't think Sirianni is in any real danger. People just like to make themselves feel more important than they are so they come up with a nonsense hot take like this because they don't like the guy.
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MRM wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:21 pm I really thought there would be between 8 and 10 openings. I guess some early playoff exits this weekend could add to that.
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Did anybody know that Cody Grimm was a DB Coach for JAX? He just got fired.
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acmillis wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:54 am Did anybody know that Cody Grimm was a DB Coach for JAX? He just got fired.
Yes. He followed Mike Caldwell there in 2022. That's a shame, I think Caldwell is a pretty good coach. But that Jags D didn't reflect that.
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Whoever hires Jim Harbaugh will be an instant contender. He knows how to coach.

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Phantom wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:26 am Whoever hires Jim Harbaugh will be an instant contender. He knows how to coach.

Yes, even Commanders
Assuming Jim would leave the cherry job he has right now. I thought Michigan just backed up two Brink's trucks to his home with an offer for the future. Did I hear incorrectly?
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Phantom wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:26 am Whoever hires Jim Harbaugh will be an instant contender. He knows how to coach.

Yes, even Commanders
You may very well be right, but people thought the same thing about Chip Kelly.
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Buc2 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
Phantom wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:26 am Whoever hires Jim Harbaugh will be an instant contender. He knows how to coach.

Yes, even Commanders
You may very well be right, but people thought the same thing about Chip Kelly.
Chip Kelly?? Their resumes really couldn’t be much different.
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Deja Entendu wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:01 am
Buc2 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am

You may very well be right, but people thought the same thing about Chip Kelly.
Chip Kelly?? Their resumes really couldn’t be much different.
I wasn't talking about their resumes.
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Buc2 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:13 pm
Deja Entendu wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:01 am

Chip Kelly?? Their resumes really couldn’t be much different.
I wasn't talking about their resumes.
What did you mean, then?

Harbaugh was extremely successful in the NFL. He was 44-19 with the 49ers.

Kelly never coached in the NFL before going to the Eagles.
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Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:32 pm #6

IMO this was a year too late. He should've been fired last year after the way they collapsed at the end of the season and missed the playoffs. Especially in the last game where they had the lead against Jacksonville and blew it in the 4th quarter. A win would've gotten them the division again.
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Any team hiring Harbaugh will need to put a clause in his account that he can't go snoopy for other jobs each year. That's his issue, he has a wondering eye when it comes to coaching jobs. As successful as his time was with the 49ers, there was always a dark cloud lingering because he would entertain jumping back into college every year.
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No news on Belichick. I assume he's safe. He's alluded to being willing to change his GM power.
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BuccaNOLEer wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:42 pm
Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:32 pm #6

IMO this was a year too late. He should've been fired lady year after the way they collapsed at the end of the season and missed the playoffs. Especially in the last game where they had the lead against Jacksonville and blew it in the 4th quarter. A win would've gotten them the division again.


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Most owners expect instant results from a new HC. That is why it seems to be the same teams constantly changing HC's.
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Phantom wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:26 am Whoever hires Jim Harbaugh will be an instant contender. He knows how to coach.

Yes, even Commanders
Not if he goes to the Panthers.
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uscbucsfan1 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:36 pm
Buc2 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:13 pm

I wasn't talking about their resumes.
What did you mean, then?

Harbaugh was extremely successful in the NFL. He was 44-19 with the 49ers.

Kelly never coached in the NFL before going to the Eagles.
Just what I said. People were saying the same thing about Kelly. He didn't transition well. Will Harbaugh? Maybe. Maybe not.
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Buc2 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:02 pm
uscbucsfan1 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:36 pm

What did you mean, then?

Harbaugh was extremely successful in the NFL. He was 44-19 with the 49ers.

Kelly never coached in the NFL before going to the Eagles.
Just what I said. People were saying the same thing about Kelly. He didn't transition well. Will Harbaugh? Maybe. Maybe not.
But he’s already transitioned well. He was a successful college coach, who then built a SB contender before going back to college.

Chip never accomplished what Harbaugh has at either level.

There’s obviously the question of if he does well coming back (ala Pete Carroll), but his track record says he’s less of a risk than most.
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Deja Entendu wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:25 pm
Buc2 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:02 pm

Just what I said. People were saying the same thing about Kelly. He didn't transition well. Will Harbaugh? Maybe. Maybe not.
But he’s already transitioned well. He was a successful college coach, who then built a SB contender before going back to college.

Chip never accomplished what Harbaugh has at either level.

There’s obviously the question of if he does well coming back (ala Pete Carroll), but his track record says he’s less of a risk than most.
Good point. I had forgotten all about him being a HC in the NFL before. Duh.
@uscbucsfan1, now I understand your questioning my post. Oops.
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Snake wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:34 pmSee:
I'm sure they meant "inner-office politics," right?
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Players are always split on this stuff, but...
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Snake wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:54 pm No news on Belichick. I assume he's safe. He's alluded to being willing to change his GM power.
I've thought all along that if Belichick was leaving whether by his choice or not, the announcement would come away from the other firings and prior to the WC games. That would mean Wed or Thurs to me. If he's still in charge on Friday, he's probably staying.
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13F11B wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:29 am
Phantom wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:26 am Whoever hires Jim Harbaugh will be an instant contender. He knows how to coach.

Yes, even Commanders
Assuming Jim would leave the cherry job he has right now. I thought Michigan just backed up two Brink's trucks to his home with an offer for the future. Did I hear incorrectly?
He got something like 3.5 million in bonuses after finishing year 3 of his 5 year contract. His buyout is 1.5 million. I think he can afford it
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Four Verticals wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:36 pm
Snake wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:54 pm No news on Belichick. I assume he's safe. He's alluded to being willing to change his GM power.
I've thought all along that if Belichick was leaving whether by his choice or not, the announcement would come away from the other firings and prior to the WC games. That would mean Wed or Thurs to me. If he's still in charge on Friday, he's probably staying.
He's going to stick around long enough to break Don Shula's record for career wins, then retire at the end of that season. That's my prediction.
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BuccaNOLEer wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:36 pm
Four Verticals wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:36 pm

I've thought all along that if Belichick was leaving whether by his choice or not, the announcement would come away from the other firings and prior to the WC games. That would mean Wed or Thurs to me. If he's still in charge on Friday, he's probably staying.
He's going to stick around long enough to break Don Shula's record for career wins, then retire at the end of that season. That's my prediction.
Just for Reid to pass him right after.

Hell, if Bill doesn't find a better situation Reid might pass him before either of them reach Shula.
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If Bill goes to the LA Chargers, he could win a bunch of games.
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Reid is like 50 behind. That's not a small number.
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Doctor wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:56 pm Reid is like 50 behind. That's not a small number.
6 behind in the regular season which is what I thought Bill was chasing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N ... ns_leaders

Adding post season (Reid won a Super Bowl after this article), he is only 14 total behind, and Bill is only 16 behind, hence the regular season record

https://fansided.com/2023/01/20/nfl-hea ... wins-time/
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BuccaNOLEer wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:36 pm
Four Verticals wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:36 pm

I've thought all along that if Belichick was leaving whether by his choice or not, the announcement would come away from the other firings and prior to the WC games. That would mean Wed or Thurs to me. If he's still in charge on Friday, he's probably staying.
He's going to stick around long enough to break Don Shula's record for career wins, then retire at the end of that season. That's my prediction.
He'll never break the record when you take into consideration that, as of the end of this season, both have coached 32 years. Next year will be Belichick's 33rd year. Also, I doubt Belichick will ever surpass Shula's .677 win pct. So, while Belichick may very well coach long enough to break the wins record, imo, Shula's will still be more significant.
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Doctor wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:56 pm Reid is like 50 behind. That's not a small number.
Reid is 70 behind but he's only been a head coach for 24 years. Shula was a HC for 32 years. If Reid coaches that long, he only has to average about 9 wins per season over the next 8 years to pass Shula in the same amount of years. Of course, Shula also only had 14 game seasons for nearly half his career vs 16 and now 17 for Reid.
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13F11B wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:29 am
Phantom wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:26 am Whoever hires Jim Harbaugh will be an instant contender. He knows how to coach.

Yes, even Commanders
Assuming Jim would leave the cherry job he has right now. I thought Michigan just backed up two Brink's trucks to his home with an offer for the future. Did I hear incorrectly?
Jim Harbaugh has a 10 year 125 million contract offer.
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Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:14 am
13F11B wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:29 am

Assuming Jim would leave the cherry job he has right now. I thought Michigan just backed up two Brink's trucks to his home with an offer for the future. Did I hear incorrectly?
Jim Harbaugh has a 10 year 125 million contract offer.
Yeah, I can't see many NFL teams putting that type of money up. He might get a 15-20 million a year offer, but no guarantee of 10 years.
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Not a HC, but a very talked about situation around here





The Bears also fired their QB coach. This indicates to me they plan to stick with Fields, at least in the short term. They might still draft a QB, but I doubt it's at 1.
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