NO @ TB Week 15 Discussion

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King Bootz wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:00 am It is really as simple as this. In this rivalry, the team that wins the turnover battle wins the game. Unfortunately in 3 of the last 4 games vs Saints we've lost the turnover battle and as a result are 1-3. Forget the stats. Forget who's playing and who's not. Protect the football, we win this game. Don't, we won't.
Some of the other stuff is important to determining that turnover battle. The Saints are built to beat us, they run the ball well against us and their defense is really good at moving Brady off his mark and capitalizing on the bad throws which that creates.

The turnovers are created from pressure and typically great coverage. Protect Brady, run the ball, and that will help us not turn the ball over.

On defense, we have to stop the run or they will control the clock forcing us to push the ball more which will in turn reduce our ability to protect Brady and run the ball.

This game is a coinflip, even with them not having a QB. I was more confident in the Bills game than this one.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:06 am
King Bootz wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:00 am It is really as simple as this. In this rivalry, the team that wins the turnover battle wins the game. Unfortunately in 3 of the last 4 games vs Saints we've lost the turnover battle and as a result are 1-3. Forget the stats. Forget who's playing and who's not. Protect the football, we win this game. Don't, we won't.
Some of the other stuff is important to determining that turnover battle. The Saints are built to beat us, they run the ball well against us and their defense is really good at moving Brady off his mark and capitalizing on the bad throws which that creates.

The turnovers are created from pressure and typically great coverage. Protect Brady, run the ball, and that will help us not turn the ball over.

On defense, we have to stop the run or they will control the clock forcing us to push the ball more which will in turn reduce our ability to protect Brady and run the ball.

This game is a coinflip, even with them not having a QB. I was more confident in the Bills game than this one.
Likewise. It really hasn't mattered who they've had at QB over the past few years. Brees, Bridgewater, Winston/Siemian. They are built to stop us and well coached. Don't believe for 1 second Sean Payton isn't going to call run after run because he will. He knows his team and the fact that they are even close to .500 and actually competing for a wildcard is a testament to him.
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I agree that the key is to win TO battle but Brady has a 7.3:1 TD: INT ratio at home. That drops to 2:1 on the road.

Bucs average 37.5 pts at home and Saints avg 26.8 on the road. D is allowing 18.5 pts at home and Saints are allowing 24 pts on the road. I think Brady is zoned in and Bucs put up 30 on them and hold them to 23.
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Why is Cameron Jordan listed as Out (ESPN)? I know he missed Jets game due to Covid but is he still in the protocol? I suppose if he had to wait the 10 days, it's possible (placed on 11th, game on 19th). That would be huge.
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Saints held Cowboys RBs (#8 in rushing) to 2.9 ypc when you take out Pollard's 58 yd TD run.
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The Saints fans HATE us. They think we are the dirtiest team in the league and that White intentionally took Jameis out for the season.

They also think that we cheat and pay off the refs (mostly Brady).

It's crazy how fans skew things, especially when things aren't going well.

Should be fun.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:37 pm The Saints fans HATE us. They think we are the dirtiest team in the league and that White intentionally took Jameis out for the season.

They also think that we cheat and pay off the refs (mostly Brady).

It's crazy how fans skew things, especially when things aren't going well.

Should be fun.
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King Bootz wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:59 pm
Maybe they misquoted Arians. I think the full quote is Sherman was held out because his is our Achilles.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:37 pm The Saints fans HATE us. They think we are the dirtiest team in the league and that White intentionally took Jameis out for the season.
They're the experts.
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AJPG wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:43 pm Why is Cameron Jordan listed as Out (ESPN)? I know he missed Jets game due to Covid but is he still in the protocol? I suppose if he had to wait the 10 days, it's possible (placed on 11th, game on 19th). That would be huge.
10 days is for unvaccinated players

If you're vaccinated it's just 2 negative tests 24hrs apart
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IchabodCrane84 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:07 pm
King Bootz wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:59 pm
Maybe they misquoted Arians. I think the full quote is Sherman was held out because his is our Achilles.
There goes the Monday joke of the week...
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PR has a write up on us about missed tackles.
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mdb1958 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:14 pm PR has a write up on us about missed tackles.
We only miss a couple dozen or so per game. Is that a lot? I thought we were supposed to give the other team a fair chance.
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Dread wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:43 pm
AJPG wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:43 pm Why is Cameron Jordan listed as Out (ESPN)? I know he missed Jets game due to Covid but is he still in the protocol? I suppose if he had to wait the 10 days, it's possible (placed on 11th, game on 19th). That would be huge.
10 days is for unvaccinated players

If you're vaccinated it's just 2 negative tests 24hrs apart
Is he vaxxed?
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AJPG wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:17 pm
Dread wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:43 pm
10 days is for unvaccinated players

If you're vaccinated it's just 2 negative tests 24hrs apart
Is he vaxxed?
Reports I found said he is supposedly vaccinated.
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The Saints could be without either of their excellent starting tackles. Shaq and JPP/JTS need to eat.
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MJW wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:41 pm The Saints could be without either of their excellent starting tackles. Shaq and JPP/JTS need to eat.
What’s the injury?
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I'm guessing Mr. Covid paid a call to the Saints last week.

Our guys better be taking their zinc supplements when we play, just as effective as pocket posies I understand
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Bucs need to dominate at the LOS to get a convincing win against the Saints this week.
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What is Dean's illness? He missed half the game on Sunday with it after coming back from a concussion.
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Nano wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:05 am What is Dean's illness? He missed half the game on Sunday with it after coming back from a concussion.
Idk, but during the Atlanta game another player went out sick. There is some bug going around at One Buc.
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Primeminister wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:57 am
Nano wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:05 am What is Dean's illness? He missed half the game on Sunday with it after coming back from a concussion.
Idk, but during the Atlanta game another player went out sick. There is some bug going around at One Buc.


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King Bootz wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:10 am
uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:06 am

Some of the other stuff is important to determining that turnover battle. The Saints are built to beat us, they run the ball well against us and their defense is really good at moving Brady off his mark and capitalizing on the bad throws which that creates.

The turnovers are created from pressure and typically great coverage. Protect Brady, run the ball, and that will help us not turn the ball over.

On defense, we have to stop the run or they will control the clock forcing us to push the ball more which will in turn reduce our ability to protect Brady and run the ball.

This game is a coinflip, even with them not having a QB. I was more confident in the Bills game than this one.
Likewise. It really hasn't mattered who they've had at QB over the past few years. Brees, Bridgewater, Winston/Siemian. They are built to stop us and well coached. Don't believe for 1 second Sean Payton isn't going to call run after run because he will. He knows his team and the fact that they are even close to .500 and actually competing for a wildcard is a testament to him.
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Hopefully something changes but it doesn't sound as if Dean or AWJ will be available Sunday. Sounds like Whitehead is good to go.




Edit: Arians confirmed that Dean is out Sunday.
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Sean Payton tested positive, won’t be coaching Sunday.
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Knock on wood, the Bucs are 1 of only 5 teams with no players in Covid protocol. WFT leads with 20 players followed by the Browns (14), Rams (13) and Chargers (11) in double digits.

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Rocker wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:08 pm Sean Payton tested positive, won’t be coaching Sunday.
Most important news of the week.

On a side note I have some questions about the accuracy of these tests.

What's the explanation for the huge spike this week
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uscbucsfan wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:37 pm The Saints fans HATE us. They think we are the dirtiest team in the league and that White intentionally took Jameis out for the season.

They also think that we cheat and pay off the refs (mostly Brady).

It's crazy how fans skew things, especially when things aren't going well.

Should be fun.
Lol we are one of the most penalized teams in the league I believe and I don't think Brady has had a single roughing call against him all year which is crazy.
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Dread wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:57 pm
Rocker wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:08 pm Sean Payton tested positive, won’t be coaching Sunday.
Most important news of the week.

On a side note I have some questions about the accuracy of these tests.

What's the explanation for the huge spike this week
Gonna go out on a limb and assume it has to do with a surge in covid...
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BLT wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:14 pm
Dread wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:57 pm
Most important news of the week.

On a side note I have some questions about the accuracy of these tests.

What's the explanation for the huge spike this week
Gonna go out on a limb and assume it has to do with a surge in covid...
That must be it.
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Dread wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:57 pm
Rocker wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:08 pm Sean Payton tested positive, won’t be coaching Sunday.
Most important news of the week.

On a side note I have some questions about the accuracy of these tests.

What's the explanation for the huge spike this week
In the case of the WFT, they have a few players on the defensive line that aren't vaccinated (Montez Sweat who isn't vaccinated is the source of the outbreak apparently), which then spread via the special teams meetings. Brian Mitchell is part of a radio show up here, he's been casting a *lot* of shade on the WFT d-line room over this.
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