Rapid Reactions Week 4: 19-17 Win @ New England: The Return

[Snake]

I think the Patriots played better, the Bucs are just a better team.

That’s pretty much what I said in the game thread. The Buccaneers playcalling and player decisions sometimes feels like a 12-year-old playing Madden. the team is just so talented that W’s happen regardless.

[King Bootz]

I think the Patriots played better, the Bucs are just a better team.

This sums up the game and the result.

Yes, the Pats played better. Jones was great. 40 pass attempts, 9 incomplete passes. Pats D? They were good too. They covered our WRs well, didn't give Brady many clean windows to deliver passes. Yes, he was off tonight but that shouldn't take away from the job NE did on defense.

But when it was all said and done, it came down to turnovers and 3rd downs. We won that 2-0 and converted 50% on 3rd down while the Pats converted 22%. The result was a hard fought 2 point win.

[vivalaReagan]

I think the Patriots played better, the Bucs are just a better team.

That’s pretty much what I said in the game thread. The Buccaneers playcalling and player decisions sometimes feels like a 12-year-old playing Madden. the team is just so talented that W’s happen regardless.

while it’s fun for us long suffering bucs fans, it just might be disastrous for this team in the long run. W’s won’t just happen against playoff caliber teams (see: the rams) and the more often this team wins like it did tonight, the less chance they realize they have significant deficiencies that will be exposed come playoff time.

BA got his super bowl and now seems to be playing fast and loose with house money.

[Cheb]

This is perfect.

Love it.

[Backside]

Really wish we had traded for Roby or Henderson. You’d have to think we go after someone…

[AJPG]

This was a good win because this team needs to learn how to grind out wins like these.

Considering their secondary was depleted, the next guy stepped up. There will be times down the road when they'll face good defenses that will throttle the high flying passing offense and they need to reach deep to grind out a win. This was an excellent experience going up against one of the most brilliant defensive minds in the NFL.

Try going to the Pats forum see how they feel about a "moral" victory.

[Snake]

Bros…

[vivalaReagan]

Really wish we had traded for Roby or Henderson. You’d have to think we go after someone…

after the gronk debacle, BA is the last person i trust with injury updates.

[King Bootz]

Really wish we had traded for Roby or Henderson. You’d have to think we go after someone…

Am I crazy to believe he won't even be on the injury report and will be perfectly fine given that this update from BA? I trust his information on injuries above as far as I can throw him.

[Terry Tate]

You guys are a bunch of negative nancies in here.

Yes, we did play very mistake prone football. We took bad penalties and missed opportunities. Brady missed some throws, we had some drops. Still, we outgained them by 100 yards, which is largely due to our running game and their lack thereof. Our pass rush was getting home and we got the turnovers. Lastly, Tom Brady got more rushing yards than their whole team.

In the end, we ground out the most hyped regular season game of all time, in bad weather, in a hostile stadium, with most of our starting DB's on the bench. I'll take it.

[Primeminister]

Jason Licht is fucking hilarious.

[Primeminister]

We're 3-1 and we've played bad football through 4 games.

I'll take it.

If you're going to have a run of injuries, its best to have them early in the year. Guys can rally around each other and guys who wouldn't play can get some meaningful experience. It also makes Bowles have to grind. Its almost impossible to suss out the signal of a game in a complete downpour, but this was definitely his best called game thus far. Hopefully that continues.

Looking forward to your feedback on Bowles’ play calling later this week.

[Jason Bourne]

Tom Brady first two games: 9 TD passes
Tom Brady last two games: 1 TD pass

Hmm...

Hmm… did you ever think it was against very good defenses on the road ?

[Jason Bourne]

That’s pretty much what I said in the game thread. The Buccaneers playcalling and player decisions sometimes feels like a 12-year-old playing Madden. the team is just so talented that W’s happen regardless.

while it’s fun for us long suffering bucs fans, it just might be disastrous for this team in the long run. W’s won’t just happen against playoff caliber teams (see: the rams) and the more often this team wins like it did tonight, the less chance they realize they have significant deficiencies that will be exposed come playoff time.

BA got his super bowl and now seems to be playing fast and loose with house money.

How is it playing fast and loose with house money ? We called some of same plays with AB at the end as we did with Miller at the end of games last year. They just didn’t work today. No biggie it happens.

BA has the highest winning percentage of all Bucs coaches

Also style points are meaningless

[acmillis]

Tom Brady first two games: 9 TD passes
Tom Brady last two games: 1 TD pass

Hmm...

Time to bench him and start Asante Samuel JR. at QB, amirite?

[Roach On My Pizza]

Just another NFL game, like thousands before it. Do what's needed to win and let the nitwits of losing franchises pillow fight over stats and their emotionally broken narratives. Pats had a stellar red area game plan and this is precisely the type of score you're looking at with 5 of the 6 scoring drives ending in FG attempts w/only 1 resulting in a TD.

In either case, the grind of the season is about to kick in. For the Bucs, it's a home and away cycle until week 14, where it'll be the only remaining back 2 back home game set (bills/saints) and the bye in week 9 is sandwiched by road trips to Phil and Wash.

3 or 4 more losses are coming this year and whatever unhappiness exists in that, fear not, the 5 win seasons will return soon enough

[Roach On My Pizza]

You guys are a bunch of negative nancies in here.

Yes, we did play very mistake prone football. We took bad penalties and missed opportunities. Brady missed some throws, we had some drops. Still, we outgained them by 100 yards, which is largely due to our running game and their lack thereof. Our pass rush was getting home and we got the turnovers. Lastly, Tom Brady got more rushing yards than their whole team.

In the end, we ground out the most hyped regular season game of all time, in bad weather, in a hostile stadium, with most of our starting DB's on the bench. I'll take it.

Being fans and following the losingest franchise in professional sports history doesn't quite foster intelligent football discussion.

[acmillis]

This was a masterpiece by our defense! Allowed a total of 17 points, 4 sacks, two takeaways and allowed NE to go 2 of 9 on 3rd down. There was a lot of complaining in the gameday thread about the D, but I just don't know what more they could have done. Those are '02 defense numbers right there.

[uscbucsfan]

This was a masterpiece by our defense! Allowed a total of 17 points, 4 sacks, two takeaways and allowed NE to go 2 of 9 on 3rd down. There was a lot of complaining in the gameday thread about the D, but I just don't know what more they could have done. Those are '02 defense numbers right there.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but rookie Mac Jones broke Brady's record for consecutive completions for NE and set the record by a rookie.

The defense didn't break often, but it wasn't dominant in any way.

[King Bootz]

This was a masterpiece by our defense! Allowed a total of 17 points, 4 sacks, two takeaways and allowed NE to go 2 of 9 on 3rd down. There was a lot of complaining in the gameday thread about the D, but I just don't know what more they could have done. Those are '02 defense numbers right there.

I'm not sure if you've watched any Patriots game this season but they're terrible offensively. They only scored 17 points last night but it was their 2nd highest scoring game thus far this season. Mac Jones doubled his TD pass output for the year last night as well. They also lost James White last week and their best Olinemen didn't play.

A lot of that "masterpiece" had to do with the fact that we had the perfectly terrible canvas. They don't have enough talent on offense to compete. Their defense is good enough to keep them in games but that's about it.

[Dread]

This was a masterpiece by our defense! Allowed a total of 17 points, 4 sacks, two takeaways and allowed NE to go 2 of 9 on 3rd down. There was a lot of complaining in the gameday thread about the D, but I just don't know what more they could have done. Those are '02 defense numbers right there.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but rookie Mac Jones broke Brady's record for consecutive completions for NE and set the record by a rookie.

The defense didn't break often, but it wasn't dominant in any way.

The run defense was pretty dominant imo. Holding a team to -1yds rushing is tough to do.

Considering the injuries it was good game by the defense. Would have liked to see us force more FGs when they were in the RZ, but other than that it's basically just the issues in the secondary with too much cushion.

The front 7 on defense played really well and dominated the game to the extent they could. Good pressure, got sacks, and forced a few takeaways.

Health is the biggest concern right now, I think as the season progresses the coverage will get more in-sync with the pass rush and those underneath throws will be tougher for teams to complete on us.

275yds passing on 40 attempts is not terrible defense either. Especially when you get 4 sacks and a few takeaways.

I know I'm an optimist, but the Bucs haven't played nearly their best football so the fact we're 3-1 in spite of our inconsistency as a team is a good thing.

We have Tom Brady and a good defensive coaching staff. We'll clean things up. It's still early October, so lets just keep stacking wins to hopefully get some home playoff games while getting healthy. We have the leadership to be at our best when it matters.

[BLT]

Lenny was the MVP. He played great. Hopefully we go back to feeding him the ball a lot because we're better when Brady is throwing less..

Uhhh

[nybf]

we didn't win. Another fact.

NFL seems to disagree with your facts.

[nybf]

Lenny was the MVP. He played great. Hopefully we go back to feeding him the ball a lot because we're better when Brady is throwing less..

Uhhh

It's lugz. He's still suffering the effects of fetal alcohol syndrome.

[acmillis]

This was a masterpiece by our defense! Allowed a total of 17 points, 4 sacks, two takeaways and allowed NE to go 2 of 9 on 3rd down. There was a lot of complaining in the gameday thread about the D, but I just don't know what more they could have done. Those are '02 defense numbers right there.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but rookie Mac Jones broke Brady's record for consecutive completions for NE and set the record by a rookie.

The defense didn't break often, but it wasn't dominant in any way.

No sarcasm at all. Our secondary is so thin, I was playing CB for a few snaps. All of those injuries and we still only allowed 17 points? That's darn good defense. I don't care about YARDS YARDS YARDS, I care about POINTS POINTS POINTS!

[King Bootz]

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but rookie Mac Jones broke Brady's record for consecutive completions for NE and set the record by a rookie.

The defense didn't break often, but it wasn't dominant in any way.

I don't care about YARDS YARDS YARDS, I care about POINTS POINTS POINTS!

Bucs have 148 yards in 1Q
IABL- OMG we look so bad, we suck

[Caradoc]

Jason Licht is fucking hilarious.

What is that in response to? The account he responded to was suspended

[Primeminister]

Jason Licht is fucking hilarious.

What is that in response to? The account he responded to was suspended

Damn that sucks. IIRC correctly some random Bucs fan posted cursed Licht out and offered a threat to Licht if he doesn’t trade for a DB asap. I couldn’t believe Licht actually responded with that gif . It was perfect.

[Moozician]

One question... We were down 7-6, then scored a TD... Shouldn't we "go for 2" in that situation?

[Buc2]

We won. On to next week.

[Moozician]

We won. On to next week.

Oh, I wasn't complaining... Just wondered why we didn't go for two.

[Caradoc]

We won. On to next week.

Oh, I wasn't complaining... Just wondered why we didn't go for two.

Going for two there is bad. People love it but going for two should only be done in the 4th quarter, late, if you need to even things up. Early on it often turns out that that extra point wasn't going to impact anything and if you don't convert you end up chasing those points all game.

[Moozician]

Oh, I wasn't complaining... Just wondered why we didn't go for two.

Going for two there is bad. People love it but going for two should only be done in the 4th quarter, late, if you need to even things up. Early on it often turns out that that extra point wasn't going to impact anything and if you don't convert you end up chasing those points all game.

Ok, I'll buy that. Thanks

[Tnbandwagoner]

White should have a pick six if Mac threw it better lol. He jumped it perfectly. Just off target.

Brown dropped a dime TD.

Too many plays to go through. It shouldn’t have been this close. The coaching is so bad for the Bucs and it’s why I expected it to be close. Nothing coaching wise is gonna change so hope the talent carries us through again.

This was summed up perfectly in that moment when Michaels or Collinsworth was talking about how Bowles had mentioned to him earlier in the week that Jacoby Meyer, or whichever Pats WR it was that threw the pass, had QB experience, and that he (Bowles) knew we would probably see a pass from said receiver in the game...And then we still looked like a spaceship had just landed on the field when they ran that play.

There probably hasn't been a worse series of downs called by any offensive coordinator in the history of the NFL than the one in the second half where Leftwich called that play where we pulled Cappa ten yards to block a player who probably is a full second faster in the 40, Matthew Judon - "Here, Bill, please sack our QB now, on us" - and then on the next play, third-and-eighteen, we run a screen pass - just abominably, unfathomably incompetent playcalling. Unless they had decided beforehand that anytime we got a third down of more than ten yards that they were giving up to avoid a potential sack, there's no defending that call. We called a running play on another third-and-long later in the game, and that play also proved as futile as one would expect.

[Grahamburn]

Excited to be 3-1 considering they haven’t come close to playing their best game. Worried they’re 4 games in and haven’t yet played a solid game.

They didn’t have to deal with multiple injuries like this last year. Hope guys can come back and the team can stay in the hunt for a top seed.