Week 17 Discussion
Week 17 Discussion
Lots of playoff spots, division titles, and seeding can be wrapped up this week.
The Dolphins, Ravens, Buccaneers, and Chiefs all clinch their division with a win. Eagles clinch their division with a win and Cowboys loss. Cleveland clinches a playoff spot with a win.
The Dolphins, Ravens, Buccaneers, and Chiefs all clinch their division with a win. Eagles clinch their division with a win and Cowboys loss. Cleveland clinches a playoff spot with a win.
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MIA v BAL should absolutely be flexed.
Hometown Heroes v NO has crazy potential to be must watch football.
Hometown Heroes v NO has crazy potential to be must watch football.
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Either of those games should've been flexed to Sunday night. Instead we get to see the Packers & Vikings fight over maybe being the 7th seed.
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If the Bucs win and the Cowboys lose, we're getting a Bucs and Cowboys matchup.
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I think Aiyuk is the most physical receiver in the league right now.
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Also the 49ers and Ravens are spending very little on WR's right now.
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Why is Miami vs Baltimore at 1 and Chiefs-Bengals at 4:25? Did the NFL scheduling/flex committee take the week off for Xmas?
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and why Tampa bay vs New Orleans at 1?
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Look at the Sunday night game. Packers vs Vikings. They could've flexed that game for the Ravens/Dolphins matchup or even our game.
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The Ravens have 2 1st round WRs still on their rookie deals. Beckham has a $15mil deal. Agholor has a $3mil deal.
That said, I believe Deebo signed a deal for $24mil/year. Kittle isn't a WR but he's the highest paid TE in the league also. So they spend a pretty penny on their skills guys.
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@mdb1958 I'm surprised you missed this nugget from last night.
Guess who has the longest win streak in the NFC now?
Guess who has the longest win streak in the NFC now?
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Here's how the playoffs would look if the season ended today.
NFC
#1- 49ers
#7 Seahawks @ #2 Eagles
#6 Rams @ #3 Lions
#5 Cowboys @ #4 Buccaneers
AFC
#1- Ravens
#7 Colts @ #2 Dolphins
#6 Bills @ #3 Chiefs
#5 Browns @ #4 Jaguars
NFC
#1- 49ers
#7 Seahawks @ #2 Eagles
#6 Rams @ #3 Lions
#5 Cowboys @ #4 Buccaneers
AFC
#1- Ravens
#7 Colts @ #2 Dolphins
#6 Bills @ #3 Chiefs
#5 Browns @ #4 Jaguars
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Opportunity for us to clinic in week 17 again. Such a different feeling compared to last year. We knew we were getting smashed in a playoff game. This year? Much more positive vibes heading toward the post-season. Let's put the Saints out of their misery.
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Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:35 amThe Ravens have 2 1st round WRs still on their rookie deals. Beckham has a $15mil deal. Agholor has a $3mil deal.
That said, I believe Deebo signed a deal for $24mil/year. Kittle isn't a WR but he's the highest paid TE in the league also. So they spend a pretty penny on their skills guys.
I'm just going by positional spending on spotrac. It has to be also - that if players go on IR it lowers cuz some positions I say naw that can't be.
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Baker gotta be in the MVP convo now after the Purdy debacle yesterday
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Was just on Statmuse - weird again they say we got 25 int's.
It seems internet misinformation really could be stupid people can't do their job right. I never put much thought to the accidental stuff but even so we should demand correction. Or make putting people in a bad light a thing again.
It seems internet misinformation really could be stupid people can't do their job right. I never put much thought to the accidental stuff but even so we should demand correction. Or make putting people in a bad light a thing again.
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real bucs fan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:20 am Baker gotta be in the MVP convo now after the Purdy debacle yesterday
The right destination could do wonders.
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No after. San Fran had won 6 straight before last night. Now we have the longest current win streak in the NFC. The Ravens have the longest overall with 5 straight.
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CMC ain't free either.Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:35 amThe Ravens have 2 1st round WRs still on their rookie deals. Beckham has a $15mil deal. Agholor has a $3mil deal.
That said, I believe Deebo signed a deal for $24mil/year. Kittle isn't a WR but he's the highest paid TE in the league also. So they spend a pretty penny on their skills guys.
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Also Ravens WRs sus
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I like Flowers a lot. He's very explosive and plays bigger than he is. Beckham looks closer to the players he once was in NY than he has in years. Bateman is a bust. Agholor, I forget he's on their team until he makes a play.
Not a great group but honestly it's better than they've ever had with Lamar.
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I'm confused by Bateman's progression. At one point he looked like a crisp, physical route runner capable of being a possession receiver and a great #2 for years to come. And now he is an afterthought on that offense.Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:07 pmI like Flowers a lot. He's very explosive and plays bigger than he is. Beckham looks closer to the players he once was in NY than he has in years. Bateman is a bust. Agholor, I forget he's on their team until he makes a play.
Not a great group but honestly it's better than they've ever had with Lamar.
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Injuries and drops.Jonny wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:18 pmI'm confused by Bateman's progression. At one point he looked like a crisp, physical route runner capable of being a possession receiver and a great #2 for years to come. And now he is an afterthought on that offense.Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:07 pm
I like Flowers a lot. He's very explosive and plays bigger than he is. Beckham looks closer to the players he once was in NY than he has in years. Bateman is a bust. Agholor, I forget he's on their team until he makes a play.
Not a great group but honestly it's better than they've ever had with Lamar.
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In 13 games OBJ has 63 catches for 532 yards and 3 touchdowns.Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:07 pmI like Flowers a lot. He's very explosive and plays bigger than he is. Beckham looks closer to the players he once was in NY than he has in years. Bateman is a bust. Agholor, I forget he's on their team until he makes a play.
Not a great group but honestly it's better than they've ever had with Lamar.
Saying he looks anything like he used to is a streeeeeetch
In 9 of those 13 games, he has 3 catches or less. In 8 games he has 4 targets or less.
He’s a good #3 WR at this point, and he ain’t worth anywhere near the $$$ he’s getting paid.
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Couple things here.acmillis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:46 pmIn 13 games OBJ has 63 catches for 532 yards and 3 touchdowns.Bootz wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:07 pm
I like Flowers a lot. He's very explosive and plays bigger than he is. Beckham looks closer to the players he once was in NY than he has in years. Bateman is a bust. Agholor, I forget he's on their team until he makes a play.
Not a great group but honestly it's better than they've ever had with Lamar.
Saying he looks anything like he used to is a streeeeeetch
In 9 of those 13 games, he has 3 catches or less. In 8 games he has 4 targets or less.
He’s a good #3 WR at this point, and he ain’t worth anywhere near the $$$ he’s getting paid.
#1, you got the yardage and TD totals right, completely whiffed on his catch total. He has 34 catches. Averaging 15.6 yards/catch. The only other time he averaged 15 more better was 2015.
#2, in watching him play he definitely looks faster and more explosive than he did in most of his time I'm Cleveland and all of his time in LA. The juice is back. Now the production wasn't what I was focused on as much as how his play looks.
#3, worth is relative. Would it be worth it on a team that's primarily a passing team and requires a lot from their WRs? No. But for the Ravens, he adds another wrinkle to their offense. He's basically replaced what they were getting from Brown before he got traded. The Ravens don't care about stats in the way most teams would. They care more about winning.
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Branch from Detroit probably has a DRoY claim. YaYa has been great. Don't know if he would have been ready to start at the beginning of the season or not. Glad Bowles had no problem making that adjustment. Saw JTS on specials against Jacksonville.
Another pass rusher and safety added to this defense next year and they could be elite.
Another pass rusher and safety added to this defense next year and they could be elite.
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Denver needs a QB next year. JJ McCarthy?
Breaking: Sean Payton has informed the Denver Broncos that Russell Wilson will be the backup and Jarrett Stidham will start at QB Sunday vs. the Los Angeles Chargers, sources told Adam Schefter.
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I think there's a clause in his contract that would guarantee him more.
This is a marriage that just did not work out. Russ has been extremely good this season. Him and Payton don't seem to get along though.
This is a marriage that just did not work out. Russ has been extremely good this season. Him and Payton don't seem to get along though.
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The Russell Wilson dropoff since getting traded to Denver has been crazy.