I didn't call you anything or attack you at all. Simply asking what satisfaction you receive from complaining about officiating game after game.Babeinbucland wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:55 pmI wish you could post some intellectual discourse without resorting to name calling and personal attacks. Yawn…Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:26 pm
Solid write up.
I've asked the usual conspiracy theorists @13F11B @Babeinbucland @BucsNBills what satisfaction they receive out of posting and complaining about officiating all of the time. The latter 2 haven't responded. The former simply said he doesn't owe me any explanation.
Maybe the joy they get is better than masterbation and they are just embarrassed to say.
The officiating sucked. It isn’t a conspiracy if it’s real. End of story
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You assume that it’s satisfaction when it is the opposite. It is frustrating to see how either incompetent they are or corrupt they are. I think it’s probably more incompetent than anything. But when visual facts prove their incompetence it’s not a conspiracy theory.Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:03 pmI didn't call you anything or attack you at all. Simply asking what satisfaction you receive from complaining about officiating game after game.Babeinbucland wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:55 pm
I wish you could post some intellectual discourse without resorting to name calling and personal attacks. Yawn…
The officiating sucked. It isn’t a conspiracy if it’s real. End of story

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One can only assume that when you do it so often.Babeinbucland wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:05 pmYou assume that it’s satisfaction when it is the opposite. It is frustrating to see how either incompetent they are or corrupt they are. I think it’s probably more incompetent than anything. But when visual facts prove their incompetence it’s not a conspiracy theory.
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At least in the Giants Eagles game there was a WHISTLE. It was after the ball was taken away, but there was a whistle.Pirate Life wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:08 am Not a good look for the NFL:
... and even worse:
Toss in the really bad botch of the tush push fumble in the Giants game along with a host of other questionable calls this year and the league needs to do something or the conspiracy theories are going to start spreading like wildfire.
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Shut the fuck up, you whiney little bitch.Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:09 pmOne can only assume that when you do it so often.Babeinbucland wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:05 pm
You assume that it’s satisfaction when it is the opposite. It is frustrating to see how either incompetent they are or corrupt they are. I think it’s probably more incompetent than anything. But when visual facts prove their incompetence it’s not a conspiracy theory.
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I don't think it is as black and white as that.Backside wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:03 pmBut do you see how saying this nullifies anything else? This is not a pick and choose situation, if you can concede 9/10 examples but if this one still makes it very hard for you to believe in anything other than refs being influenced then you are still saying refs are being influenced, which means the league is rigged and basically the end of sports as we know it. Awful calls like that happen every week so it would have to be league wide as well.
It’s either rigged or it isn’t. You’re all in or you’re all out there’s no way to play both sides here.
There is a vast difference between the entire league being rigged vs. a few officials being involved in betting on games.
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Neither of which you have any proof of, other than you talking out of your ass per the usual.13F11B wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:37 pmI don't think it is as black and white as that.Backside wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:03 pm
But do you see how saying this nullifies anything else? This is not a pick and choose situation, if you can concede 9/10 examples but if this one still makes it very hard for you to believe in anything other than refs being influenced then you are still saying refs are being influenced, which means the league is rigged and basically the end of sports as we know it. Awful calls like that happen every week so it would have to be league wide as well.
It’s either rigged or it isn’t. You’re all in or you’re all out there’s no way to play both sides here.
There is a vast difference between the entire league being rigged vs. a few officials being involved in betting on games.
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Wasn't talking to you here, kiddo. Know your place.
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My biggest issue is the “replay assist” and the usage of the replay system in general. It seems to be entering this gray area where the call on the field isn’t nearly as relevant as it was in the past.Backside wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:03 pmBut do you see how saying this nullifies anything else? This is not a pick and choose situation, if you can concede 9/10 examples but if this one still makes it very hard for you to believe in anything other than refs being influenced then you are still saying refs are being influenced, which means the league is rigged and basically the end of sports as we know it. Awful calls like that happen every week so it would have to be league wide as well.
It’s either rigged or it isn’t. You’re all in or you’re all out there’s no way to play both sides here.
They go in a booth and put a headset on. Get a call from NY. There are inherent biases that can be exploited when humans are involved.
The whistle thing is just odd.
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Make all the erroneous assumptions you like. You asked me a question, I answered it in good faith with my truth, and you’ve decided to ignore that and make assumptions based on, I don’t know whatever the hell you’re making up lolBootz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:09 pmOne can only assume that when you do it so often.Babeinbucland wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:05 pm
You assume that it’s satisfaction when it is the opposite. It is frustrating to see how either incompetent they are or corrupt they are. I think it’s probably more incompetent than anything. But when visual facts prove their incompetence it’s not a conspiracy theory.

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Lions game

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They don't need to be fined. They need to have the shit kicked outta them by the players. If an official fears physical retaliation from a player if he makes a bad call, he won't make a bad call.0-26 Survivor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 8:16 pm Whoah!
Talk about PO’d!
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You didn't answer it, you just said its the opposite of satisfaction. Kinda smells of insanity. Can't imagine purposely posting things you don't like it.Babeinbucland wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:59 pmMake all the erroneous assumptions you like. You asked me a question, I answered it in good faith with my truth, and you’ve decided to ignore that and make assumptions based on, I don’t know whatever the hell you’re making up lol
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It’s not just a few officials, it seems to be whatever officiating crew is doing the Bucs game in a given week. Which would mean it’s basically all of them.13F11B wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:37 pmI don't think it is as black and white as that.Backside wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:03 pm
But do you see how saying this nullifies anything else? This is not a pick and choose situation, if you can concede 9/10 examples but if this one still makes it very hard for you to believe in anything other than refs being influenced then you are still saying refs are being influenced, which means the league is rigged and basically the end of sports as we know it. Awful calls like that happen every week so it would have to be league wide as well.
It’s either rigged or it isn’t. You’re all in or you’re all out there’s no way to play both sides here.
There is a vast difference between the entire league being rigged vs. a few officials being involved in betting on games.
And if you were a fan of a different team you’d think there were so many terrible calls going against you that the refs must be influenced somehow. It is black and white, if it’s rigged, it’s rigged. There have been at least three Bucs games this year where people here have called out the refs for fixing the game. That’s three different reffing crews, already a very significant amount. And that’s before we get to the rest of the league where every team could tell you half a dozen terrible calls that have gone against them.
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The second half had the feel of a preseason game because the Saints stink so bad. Always good to get a road win within the division. Time to rest up and heal up and get ready for New England.
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Your complaining and negativity pollutes the game day thread. We just wanna know why you love to bitch and moan so much, which you've already told us you're too much of a chicken shit coward and too embarrassed
to say so I won't ask again.
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Ugly win but a win nonetheless. Have to get offense fixed though, won't go far playing like we have the past two weeks.
Maybe getting a few players back will help but that remains to be seen.
Maybe getting a few players back will help but that remains to be seen.

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I think the refs are just bad part time contractors protected by their own union. The replay assist is the big issue because it’s new and the calls have been inconsistent and overrule the call on the field which doesn’t make these refs very happy either.
As for @Bootz I’d suggest ignoring him if he bothers you which isn’t that hard. I’ve blocked him simply because I don’t give a shit who is right or wrong. I don’t have time to read 1.5 pages of the same back and forth bullshit in a 3 page thread.
It’s literally the same general argument over and over and over again in every thread. Damn I wish I had that kind of time to just waste and throw away. It sure must be nice!
As for @Bootz I’d suggest ignoring him if he bothers you which isn’t that hard. I’ve blocked him simply because I don’t give a shit who is right or wrong. I don’t have time to read 1.5 pages of the same back and forth bullshit in a 3 page thread.
It’s literally the same general argument over and over and over again in every thread. Damn I wish I had that kind of time to just waste and throw away. It sure must be nice!
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First, you complaining about my claiming that a call was bad pollutes the thread the same amount, if not more. Yet, you are smart enough to shut the fuck up.
Second, you keep calling me a chicken shit and a coward, which I suspect is due to your personal experience with being one your whole life.
Third, if there was a we then someone else would actually post a complaint about it. No one else has. This just proves you are a delusional negative Nellie.
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Both of you need to STFU.

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Just a note. When watching our games I track the boxscore and I noticed McCollum with 4 PD's and then when I checked later it went down to two.
Another was Heck pushed Tucker across the goaline.
Another was Heck pushed Tucker across the goaline.
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I saw that too
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Well damn. We went 10-6 in 2010 and all we got was "LoOk HoO tHeY pLaYeD" then too. Keep my take with a grain of salt. I'm signaling both to historical consistency and the fact we'd damn sure be saying that 15 years later had we played the Patriots schedule this year and had the same 6-2 record.Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:07 am "Look at who they've played" is such a lazy position. Especially if you haven't even bothered watching the games they've played. Are they playing poorly, making a ton of careless mistakes, skating by with close last minute wins? Or are they winning decisively with good football and taking care of business.
The Patriots point differential is +67, 2nd highest in the league only behind the Colts, who people are using the same lazy argument for. Seems people should actually watch the games before coming up with assumptions.
I mean. I guess the takeaway ought to be that no one cares about tape if belongs to the Bucs playing bad teams
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We all watched those games though. How many Patriots games have you watched this year?Swashbuckler wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:47 pmWell damn. We went 10-6 in 2010 and all we got was "LoOk HoO tHeY pLaYeD" then too. Keep my take with a grain of salt. I'm signaling both to historical consistency and the fact we'd damn sure be saying that 15 years later had we played the Patriots schedule this year and had the same 6-2 record.Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:07 am "Look at who they've played" is such a lazy position. Especially if you haven't even bothered watching the games they've played. Are they playing poorly, making a ton of careless mistakes, skating by with close last minute wins? Or are they winning decisively with good football and taking care of business.
The Patriots point differential is +67, 2nd highest in the league only behind the Colts, who people are using the same lazy argument for. Seems people should actually watch the games before coming up with assumptions.
I mean. I guess the takeaway ought to be that no one cares about tape if belongs to the Bucs
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