Miami Dolphins @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers Official Game Day Thread 10/10/21

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Re: Miami Dolphins @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers Official Game Day Thread 10/10/21

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Rocker wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:30 pm This scheming is ass.
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NVM Bowles asks JPP (with a fucking cast on his hand) to cover a deep route. This is a clown show in personnel based scheming.
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Safety should have been there?
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This seems like 100% scheme and playcalling

Why is JPP dropping into coverage on a fast RB after missing time from injury?

I get we have injuries but this is also on Bowles.
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I found a pic taken of our defense the other day:

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Was JPP assigned to Gaskin for the entire route?!?
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JPP and Shaq in coverage.

It’s called outsmarting yourself.
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Bahamian:bucfan wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:32 pm Someone PLEASE explain to me how does Gaskin get SOOOOO wide open?!
I'd have to look at it again, but basically we got no pressure. JPP was dropping to the flat to respect Gaskin. The corner on that side (whoever that was) ran out of his zone by a deep post route by that receiver. So the deep outside zone there was open after Gaskins went upfield on the wheel route.

Without knowing the rules of the called defense, it's hard to say who fucked up.

Great playcall by the Dolphins. Cowardly defensive calls all around by the Bucs.
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Holy crap. I’m going back to bed.
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ATrain wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:34 pm This seems like 100% scheme and playcalling

Why is JPP dropping into coverage on a fast RB after missing time from injury?

I get we have injuries but this is also on Bowles.
But you'd assume with that coverage that the safety should have been over top there?

It looked as though the safety was out of position but I don't know

JPP was just covering the flat
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We're getting picked apart by Brissett and an anemic offense.

Something dramatic needs to change in scheme or whatever because we can't be giving up drives and points like this to inferior talent

It's like Bowles watched the Seahawks defense and said "hold my beer".
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Primeminister wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:32 pm That TD was too easy. Had to be a bust coverage.
JPP has to carry the Vert.

In Cover 2/3 Zone, the flat defender has to cover the 2nd Vert through.

In Match Quarters, JPP has to carry that backfield Vert.

That’s what happens when an OLB who doesnt cover gets put up n a process-intensive spot.
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Sdbucs wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:36 pm
ATrain wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:34 pm This seems like 100% scheme and playcalling

Why is JPP dropping into coverage on a fast RB after missing time from injury?

I get we have injuries but this is also on Bowles.
But you'd assume with that coverage that the safety should have been over top there?

It looked as though the safety was out of position but I don't know

JPP was just covering the flat
Negative. See above. It’s JPP’s Vert.
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Nobody wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:37 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:36 pm

But you'd assume with that coverage that the safety should have been over top there?

It looked as though the safety was out of position but I don't know

JPP was just covering the flat
Negative. See above. It’s JPP’s Vert.
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I still do not understand Bowles’ strategy.
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ATrain wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:36 pm We're getting picked apart by Brissett and an anemic offense.

Something dramatic needs to change in scheme or whatever because we can't be giving up drives and points like this to inferior talent

It's like Bowles watched the Seahawks defense and said "hold my beer".
I'd agree.

We are trying to get cute for the sake of getting cute.

Put speed on speed. Contest routes and disrupt timing, allowing the rush to finish at the QB.

We are running Prevent defenses every snap and it's so fucking dumb.
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Gonna be a foot race, this one.
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Nobody wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:36 pm
Primeminister wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:32 pm That TD was too easy. Had to be a bust coverage.
JPP has to carry the Vert.

In Cover 2/3 Zone, the flat defender has to cover the 2nd Vert through.

In Match Quarters, JPP has to carry that backfield Vert.

That’s what happens when an OLB who doesnt cover gets put up n a process-intensive spot.
And JPP IS WEARING A CAST. Why put him in that position?
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TonyLip wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:38 pm Gonna be a foot race, this one.
I’m tired of seeing this defense play so fucking soft. I want to curb stomp a team.
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Excellent coverage on Fournette by their backer.
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Brisett injured
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Sdbucs wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:40 pmBrisett injured
With the coverage we play it won’t matter.
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Sdbucs wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:40 pmBrisett injured
Maybe.

If we go up against the Dolphins' third stringer, HOPEFULLY our defense can step up and make some plays.
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Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:41 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:40 pmBrisett injured
Maybe.

If we go up against the Dolphins' third stringer, HOPEFULLY our defense can step up and make some plays.
Well we all know our history as the Bucs. I hope they keep the starter in so we don't lose.
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Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:41 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:40 pmBrisett injured
Maybe.

If we go up against the Dolphins' third stringer, HOPEFULLY our defense can step up and make some plays.
At this point I blame Bowles more than the players. We are getting pressure, but without challenging the passing routes there is no time to get home.
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Not buying into these deep passes to Fournette. He seems to be improving as a passer but I don't think he has that type of deep speed to make those work.
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Primeminister wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:42 pm
Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:41 pm

Maybe.

If we go up against the Dolphins' third stringer, HOPEFULLY our defense can step up and make some plays.
At this point I blame Bowles more than the players. We are getting pressure, but without challenging the passing routes there is no time to get home.
He seems terrified to be beat deep so he's willing to let the defense get carved up by short and intermediate passing and just hope we can find a way off the field.

It's for sure an exercise in frustration to watch.
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Yikes
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Bernard has to drop his butt on those pass blocking reps. Technique error allowed him to be easily bowled over and caused the sack.
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ATrain wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:45 pm
Primeminister wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:42 pm

At this point I blame Bowles more than the players. We are getting pressure, but without challenging the passing routes there is no time to get home.
He seems terrified to be beat deep so he's willing to let the defense get carved up by short and intermediate passing and just hope we can find a way off the field.

It's for sure an exercise in frustration to watch.
Maybe the secondary play is that bad? Injury is the only reason I can see for this shit. I’d rather challenge and let the players make plays.
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Brissett is gimpy. Bowles gotta be aggressive here.
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Brissett isn't going to let a little thing like an injury get between him and a career passing day.
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Now, Get off the field!!!
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Well Well Well….
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