The Official 2025 Off-Season Thread

[Snake]

Love him or hate him, guys wanna play with Baker.

(Or hill just really likes living in Miami)

[Bootz]

Tyreek is a POS but sure would be an insane addition to our offense.

We basically become a better version of the 2023 Dolphins, which were the #2 scoring offense

Bucky/White/Tucker > Achane/Mostert

Gonna have to disagree here a bit.

Achane is basically Bucky with speed. I think behind this OL he'd be even better than Bucky. As a receiver he's better than both Bucky and White. And unlike Bucky he is a pretty good pass protector.

[Cheb]

Tyreek is a POS but sure would be an insane addition to our offense.

We basically become a better version of the 2023 Dolphins, which were the #2 scoring offense

Bucky/White/Tucker > Achane/Mostert
Evans/Tyreek > Tyreek/Waddle
Baker > Tua

I don't think anyone could say with a straight face that Tyreek Hill wouldn't make us a more dangerous offense.

Even leaving issues about his off field behavior aside, we only have so many resources available to us, and I would much rather those resources go towards our defense than beefing up our receiver room, which even if Godwin doesn't come back (though I assume he does) is already pretty good.

[Central_Buc]

Tyreek is a POS but sure would be an insane addition to our offense.

We basically become a better version of the 2023 Dolphins, which were the #2 scoring offense

Bucky/White/Tucker > Achane/Mostert
Evans/Tyreek > Tyreek/Waddle
Baker > Tua

I don't think anyone could say with a straight face that Tyreek Hill wouldn't make us a more dangerous offense.

Even leaving issues about his off field behavior aside, we only have so many resources available to us, and I would much rather those resources go towards our defense than beefing up our receiver room, which even if Godwin doesn't come back (though I assume he does) is already pretty good.

I wouldn't look at this as long term but 1-2 years would be fine i think. We still have the pieces in place to compete but we need to focus on getting the right pieces on defense this offseason. That is also why I hope the Coen subject resolves quick so we can get started.

If Coen does become the HC now we need a DC and needs to be brought in quick.

[Bootz]

I don't think anyone could say with a straight face that Tyreek Hill wouldn't make us a more dangerous offense.

Even leaving issues about his off field behavior aside, we only have so many resources available to us, and I would much rather those resources go towards our defense than beefing up our receiver room, which even if Godwin doesn't come back (though I assume he does) is already pretty good.

I wouldn't look at this as long term but 1-2 years would be fine i think. We still have the pieces in place to compete but we need to focus on getting the right pieces on defense this offseason. That is also why I hope the Coen subject resolves quick so we can get started.

If Coen does become the HC now we need a DC and needs to be brought in quick.

Any team acquiring Hill would be looking for that shot in the arm. Not a long term solution. Think Stefon Diggs being traded to Houston last year.

Hill has 2 years left on his deal and only 2025 is guaranteed at just $11mil. We can certainly afford that. And like @Cheb said no one would say with a straight face that he would not make this offense more dangerous.

[Sdbucs]

Add Tyreek and focus everything else on bolstering our defense.

IF Tyreek pulls an Antonio Brown, we have a talented enough offense without him to be fine. IF we get Tyreek Hill on a usual season with no drama, we instantly have possibly the best offense in the NFL.

At that point all we need is defense.

Hell having Tyreek at practice might light a fire under AWJrs. ass again.

[Central_Buc]

Add Tyreek and focus everything else on bolstering our defense.

IF Tyreek pulls an Antonio Brown, we have a talented enough offense without him to be fine. IF we get Tyreek Hill on a usual season with no drama, we instantly have possibly the best offense in the NFL.

At that point all we need is defense.

Hell having Tyreek at practice might light a fire under AWJrs. ass again.

Tyreek isn't mentally ill to pull an AB, ca mon...

[Phantom]

If we somehow manage to add Tyreek Hill to our team, we’ll become unstoppable on offense and with the addition of a talented players on defense, we’ll have a strong chance of winning the Super Bowl. Guaranteed

[Phantom]

If we make a trade for Tyreek Hill, which draft pick are we sending ? players? I hope not too many.

[Central_Buc]

If we make a trade for Tyreek Hill, which draft pick are we sending ? players? I hope not too many.

I'm not the best at coming up with trade ideas and who knows what Miami would want back. Do they want a young WR back? Maybe we have to start with McMillan, one of our young defenders and multiple picks?

We can replace McMillan in the draft or FA.

Licth hates giving up picks though so I doubt he parts more than 2.

[Doctor]

Are we just spinning all this off a tweet.

Drew Rosenhaus was saying how he's patched everything up with Miami, but then again it's his job to say that.

[Phantom]

Are we just spinning all this off a tweet.

Drew Rosenhaus was saying how he's patched everything up with Miami, but then again it's his job to say that.

Yeah, I saw that too. I was also confused.

[Sdbucs]

PFF on Offseason Assets:

[Doctor]

I'd love to see these for years past. Feels like some teams just live in that "potential to get better" quadrant but never actually do. Pretty much us from 2005-2015.

While some Madden players were banging the drum for a full teardown rebuild- eat all the dead cap at once and get high draft picks, I'm so very glad we did not do that.

So many players, particularly LVD and Evans, deserved every recent invitation to the dance they were wrongfully denied earlier in their tenure. All of which came alongside Bowles I may add.

[acmillis]

Add Tyreek and focus everything else on bolstering our defense.

IF Tyreek pulls an Antonio Brown, we have a talented enough offense without him to be fine. IF we get Tyreek Hill on a usual season with no drama, we instantly have possibly the best offense in the NFL.

At that point all we need is defense.

Hell having Tyreek at practice might light a fire under AWJrs. ass again.

The fact that you’re already saying, “if he pulls an AB” like it’s a possibility… and i believe it is too, makes me want no part whatsoever!!!

[Bootz]

Add Tyreek and focus everything else on bolstering our defense.

IF Tyreek pulls an Antonio Brown, we have a talented enough offense without him to be fine. IF we get Tyreek Hill on a usual season with no drama, we instantly have possibly the best offense in the NFL.

At that point all we need is defense.

Hell having Tyreek at practice might light a fire under AWJrs. ass again.

The fact that you’re already saying, “if he pulls an AB” like it’s a possibility… and i believe it is too, makes me want no part whatsoever!!!

Better chance Mike Evans pulls an AB than Hill. One of those 2 has been suspended before and it ain't Hill....

[Sdbucs]

The fact that you’re already saying, “if he pulls an AB” like it’s a possibility… and i believe it is too, makes me want no part whatsoever!!!

Better chance Mike Evans pulls an AB than Hill. One of those 2 has been suspended before and it ain't Hill....

Tyreek almost didn’t get drafted because he beat the crap out of a pregnant woman? Or do I have this wrong

And I only mention AB because he quit on us similarly to how Tyreek seemed to quit on MIA.

Tyreek is an awful person and seems to be a question in the locker room. But boy can he play football and makes any team better.

[Bootz]

Better chance Mike Evans pulls an AB than Hill. One of those 2 has been suspended before and it ain't Hill....

Tyreek almost didn’t get drafted because he beat the crap out of a pregnant woman? Or do I have this wrong

And I only mention AB because he quit on us similarly to how Tyreek seemed to quit on MIA.

Tyreek is an awful person and seems to be a question in the locker room. But boy can he play football and makes any team better.

Oh, we're reaching back 10 years

[acmillis]

The fact that you’re already saying, “if he pulls an AB” like it’s a possibility… and i believe it is too, makes me want no part whatsoever!!!

Better chance Mike Evans pulls an AB than Hill. One of those 2 has been suspended before and it ain't Hill....

That’s a take

[Bootz]

Better chance Mike Evans pulls an AB than Hill. One of those 2 has been suspended before and it ain't Hill....

That’s a take

An honest take

[Grahamburn]

Yeesh

[Central_Buc]

Group therapy session:

Breath in...

No one is pulling an AB

Breath out...

[Bootz]

Makes you wonder how a connection between Antonio Brown and Tyreek Hill could even be made to begin with. Beyond the obvious comparisons (smaller, faster WRs) I won't go into the physical similarities but it seems some are making that connection, they literally don't have anything that comes close to mirroring each other in terms of personal conduct.

Hill's issues stem from his time in college before he even got into the league. And 2 teams have paid him nearly $185mil over last 9 years. Certainly no one is thinking there will be a repeat of those issues. He's never been suspended before. Has actually never held out due to begin unhappy or wanting more money.

Brown on the other hand, since he's been in the league, has had a laundry list of transgressions. Fights with teammates, missing team activities, being fined and suspended. He was traded to the Raiders, signed a new deal, didn't bother showing up, called his GM a cracker and then got cut before playing a down. And let's not forget how his time here ended in Jersey. Furthermore he's had several arrests and allegations over the last few years.

The comparison between Brown & Hill was......I'll say lazy.....as to not rock the boat.

[Obsolete]

I think theyre getting the AB stuff from Hill basically refusing to play in the last game.

He didnt strip down and do jumpin jacks while waving bye to the fans but he did quit.

I believe thats where this all starts and stops.

[Bootz]

If we're gonna trade for a perceived "unhappy" WR, I'd trade for Cooper Kupp. Compensation would be lower, contract is lower, and he "knows this offense".

[Obsolete]

If i were Licht, I'd attempt to re-sign Godwin and if that fails, I would look for ILB or some Edge help instead of another WR.

We've seen that we can function without Godwin and still be fairly good. However, we know this defense is in dire need of help and theres no way to properly fix/patch it from the draft alone.

I'd rather take my chance with a late round WR than spending money+whatever it takes to trade for another teams disgruntled WR.

[Grahamburn]

Trading draft assets for a WR doesn’t make any sense when you can just sign Godwin.

[Bootz]

Trading draft assets for a WR doesn’t make any sense when you can just sign Godwin.

It does when they receiver you're trading for is cheaper and not coming off of season ending surgery. Yet again.

And word is we'll franchise tag Godwin anyway, so this isn't happening with Kupp. But a $23.5mil guaranteed 1 year deal for a WR with a ton of wear and tear isn't the best business move.

[acmillis]

Trading draft assets for a WR doesn’t make any sense when you can just sign Godwin.

It does when they receiver you're trading for is cheaper and not coming off of season ending surgery. Yet again.

He quit on his team and he had half as many receiving yards this year as last.
WRs fall off suuuuper quickly. He ain’t young, maybe he’s cooked?

[Grahamburn]

Trading draft assets for a WR doesn’t make any sense when you can just sign Godwin.

It does when they receiver you're trading for is cheaper and not coming off of season ending surgery. Yet again.

And word is we'll franchise tag Godwin anyway, so this isn't happening with Kupp. But a $23.5mil guaranteed 1 year deal for a WR with a ton of wear and tear isn't the best business move.

Factoring the draft assets required to attain Hill or Kupp matters.

Kupp would be a lateral move at best.

Hill changes the game. He’s a dynamic player. But, I don’t think this front office wants to pursue guys like him. Despite your defenses of his behavior he does have negative history. On and off the field.

I’d expect Godwin to sign a 3 year deal.

[Bootz]

It does when they receiver you're trading for is cheaper and not coming off of season ending surgery. Yet again.

And word is we'll franchise tag Godwin anyway, so this isn't happening with Kupp. But a $23.5mil guaranteed 1 year deal for a WR with a ton of wear and tear isn't the best business move.

Factoring the draft assets required to attain Hill or Kupp matters.

Kupp would be a lateral move at best.

Hill changes the game. He’s a dynamic player. But, I don’t think this front office wants to pursue guys like him. Despite your defenses of his behavior he does have negative history. On and off the field.

I’d expect Godwin to sign a 3 year deal.

Again, this is a front office that pursued Antonio Brown and Ndamukong Suh. If they think a player can help them win, they'll go for it.

You know who else they pursued that had off the field issues? Baker Mayfield. And his transgressions AKA WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED occurred more recently than Hill's did. So you're only making yourself look like a fool saying I don't think this front office wants to pursue "guys like him".

[Central_Buc]

Hill would make us as potent as Detroits offense. Think about it for a second, Godwin as a third, OLine a year older together, our running game.

I get the concern and I get the idea of cap spending to fill the Defense, I'm all for it too but it's nice to imagine other options.

We could judge this better if we know what Miami wants and what they would take.

[Grahamburn]

Factoring the draft assets required to attain Hill or Kupp matters.

Kupp would be a lateral move at best.

Hill changes the game. He’s a dynamic player. But, I don’t think this front office wants to pursue guys like him. Despite your defenses of his behavior he does have negative history. On and off the field.

I’d expect Godwin to sign a 3 year deal.

Again, this is a front office that pursued Antonio Brown and Ndamukong Suh. If they think a player can help them win, they'll go for it.

You know who else they pursued that had off the field issues? Baker Mayfield. And his transgressions AKA WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED occurred more recently than Hill's did. So you're only making yourself look like a fool saying I don't think this front office wants to pursue "guys like him".

Ok.

What was Baker arrested for? Public drunkenness? In college? I don’t think that’s really comparable to what Hill did. We don’t really need to debate that do we?

Anyway, the message coming out of One Buc last off-season was very much character centric. As a philosophy I don’t expect they’ll pursue low character people going forward as long as they’re running the show.

[Bootz]

Hill would make us as potent as Detroits offense. Think about it for a second, Godwin as a third, OLine a year older together, our running game.

I get the concern and I get the idea of cap spending to fill the Defense, I'm all for it too but it's nice to imagine other options.

We could judge this better if we know what Miami wants and what they would take.

Miami isn't trading him. He had a moment, they discussed it and moved on. He took accountability and says he's looking forward to next season in Miami.

But the idea that the Bucs FO only wants choir boys when our starting QB was arrested on public intoxication, disorderly conducting and resisting arrest is laughable at best.

[Bootz]

Again, this is a front office that pursued Antonio Brown and Ndamukong Suh. If they think a player can help them win, they'll go for it.

You know who else they pursued that had off the field issues? Baker Mayfield. And his transgressions AKA WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED occurred more recently than Hill's did. So you're only making yourself look like a fool saying I don't think this front office wants to pursue "guys like him".

Anyway, the message coming out of One Buc last off-season was very much character centric. As a philosophy I don’t expect they’ll pursue low character people going forward as long as they’re running the show.

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