By the same token of reasoning, Warrick Dunn should've gotten a ring for the 2002 Bucs.
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We need Gronk as much for what he brings to the team chemistry as what he brings on the field. Anyone who's ever watched an 80s action movie knows the team needs a big dumb wisecracking dude.
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There's somewhere I got to go..."
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On the first point, I've heard he hasn't spent a dime of his NFL earnings. He lives off his endorsement money and banks the rest. According to the interwebs, he makes about $8 mil a year on endorsements, and much of that he invests.PetePierson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:45 am No idea if it's true but thought I've read that Gronk has touched / used very little of his NFL salaries.
Me thinks the "dumb" thing is a bit of him being a caricature of a caricature of The Gronk.
I don't anticipate him becoming a MENSA member but believe (hope) he's smarter than the clips we see of him being a big goof.
On the second point, you're almost certainly right. But I'm willing to respect the role he's decided to play. FWIW, I'm sure there are some genuinely dumb players, but not many. Good luck consuming, digesting, and performing a 500 page playbook, complete with countless on the fly adjustments and audible, if you're an idiot.
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"So let's get to the point
Let's roll another joint
And let's head on down the road
There's somewhere I got to go..."
Let's roll another joint
And let's head on down the road
There's somewhere I got to go..."
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Steve Wilks sucked, and he sounds like a bitter jackass here.
WTF is a "leash?" You had the worst record in the NFL. Some coaches survive that. You were a bizarre hire as it was. Next time don't lose the most games in the NFL if you want more leash.
Kliff Kingsbury kind of sucks and I'm dubious his brand of football will ever win besides September and October.
With the exception of stealing D-Hop from an idiot, Steve Keim seems to not be a great GM now that BA isn't coaching his picks anymore.
Kyler Murray is overrated.
If there's ever NFL contraction, the Cardinals should be the 2nd team gone after the Jaguars.
WTF is a "leash?" You had the worst record in the NFL. Some coaches survive that. You were a bizarre hire as it was. Next time don't lose the most games in the NFL if you want more leash.
Kliff Kingsbury kind of sucks and I'm dubious his brand of football will ever win besides September and October.
With the exception of stealing D-Hop from an idiot, Steve Keim seems to not be a great GM now that BA isn't coaching his picks anymore.
Kyler Murray is overrated.
If there's ever NFL contraction, the Cardinals should be the 2nd team gone after the Jaguars.
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And let's head on down the road
There's somewhere I got to go..."
Let's roll another joint
And let's head on down the road
There's somewhere I got to go..."
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I don't think he's dumb. I think he just likes having fun. Still, I get your point and agree that he brings more to a team than just Xs and Os.
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You're correct on both counts. He doesn't spend his salary, and he is pretty intelligent.PetePierson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:45 am No idea if it's true but thought I've read that Gronk has touched / used very little of his NFL salaries.
Me thinks the "dumb" thing is a bit of him being a caricature of a caricature of The Gronk.
I don't anticipate him becoming a MENSA member but believe (hope) he's smarter than the clips we see of him being a big goof.
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Gronk is definitely playing a bit and that bit has made him marketable as hell. He is a smart guy who leaned into the “big, dumb lovable goof” role instead of being offended by it.PetePierson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:45 am No idea if it's true but thought I've read that Gronk has touched / used very little of his NFL salaries.
Me thinks the "dumb" thing is a bit of him being a caricature of a caricature of The Gronk.
I don't anticipate him becoming a MENSA member but believe (hope) he's smarter than the clips we see of him being a big goof.
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Dwayne Haskins died in a car accident.
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RIP Young Man. What a waste. 24 years old. Prayer to his family and friends.
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That is so sad tragic. RIP Mr Haskins.
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His value as a football player doesn't diminish his value as a human. The death of a young person is nearly always a tragedy. I find your lack of basic human empathy disturbing.PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:13 pm This shit is so silly to me. While tragic he wasn't a good football player and reports not that great of a human.
People die every day... don't see a thread devoted to all of them.
RIP.
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That really sucks RIP
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Thank you for sharing.PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:13 pm This shit is so silly to me. While tragic he wasn't a good football player and reports not that great of a human.
People die every day... don't see a thread devoted to all of them.
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Very much so. Playing the role of the board curmudgeon is fine, but this is simply…disturbing at best.Cheb wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:06 pmHis value as a football player doesn't diminish his value as a human. The death of a young person is nearly always a tragedy. I find your lack of basic human empathy disturbing.PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:13 pm This shit is so silly to me. While tragic he wasn't a good football player and reports not that great of a human.
People die every day... don't see a thread devoted to all of them.
RIP.
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Voluntary workouts, I wonder if the collection of DL players on our roster has our staff buzzing in a good way?
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Rich Eisen skewering Urban Meyer has been one of the joys of the off-season.
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Seems like Meyer might literally be the most hated dude (among actual football fans) in or around football. That's quite an accomplishment. Gators fans hate him. Gators rivals hate him. Ohio State fans hate him. Ohio State rivals hate him. Jaguars fans hate him. NFL talking heads hate him. His own players hate him. And it's not the kind of "I hate Tom Brady he wins everything" hate. People really hate this fucking guy.
I've met A LOT of football coaches over the years. Many of them are the same dude - arrogant, exhausted, a bit on edge, very little interest in anything unrelated to their immediate job goals. Urban Meyer must really, really be next level to have this many people hate his ass.
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Let's roll another joint
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Total fraud.MJW wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:37 amSeems like Meyer might literally be the most hated dude (among actual football fans) in or around football. That's quite an accomplishment. Gators fans hate him. Gators rivals hate him. Ohio State fans hate him. Ohio State rivals hate him. Jaguars fans hate him. NFL talking heads hate him. His own players hate him. And it's not the kind of "I hate Tom Brady he wins everything" hate. People really hate this fucking guy.
I've met A LOT of football coaches over the years. Many of them are the same dude - arrogant, exhausted, a bit on edge, very little interest in anything unrelated to their immediate job goals. Urban Meyer must really, really be next level to have this many people hate his ass.
I'm sure he'll find Jesus or go on some apology tour to try and find some poor AD foolish enough to exploit again.
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Can you find Jesus if Jesus was already your shtick?_MB_ wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:43 amTotal fraud.MJW wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:37 am
Seems like Meyer might literally be the most hated dude (among actual football fans) in or around football. That's quite an accomplishment. Gators fans hate him. Gators rivals hate him. Ohio State fans hate him. Ohio State rivals hate him. Jaguars fans hate him. NFL talking heads hate him. His own players hate him. And it's not the kind of "I hate Tom Brady he wins everything" hate. People really hate this fucking guy.
I've met A LOT of football coaches over the years. Many of them are the same dude - arrogant, exhausted, a bit on edge, very little interest in anything unrelated to their immediate job goals. Urban Meyer must really, really be next level to have this many people hate his ass.
I'm sure he'll find Jesus or go on some apology tour to try and find some poor AD foolish enough to exploit again.
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Worked for Jim Baker.
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If an AD even considers hiring Meyer fire them._MB_ wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:43 amTotal fraud.MJW wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:37 am
Seems like Meyer might literally be the most hated dude (among actual football fans) in or around football. That's quite an accomplishment. Gators fans hate him. Gators rivals hate him. Ohio State fans hate him. Ohio State rivals hate him. Jaguars fans hate him. NFL talking heads hate him. His own players hate him. And it's not the kind of "I hate Tom Brady he wins everything" hate. People really hate this fucking guy.
I've met A LOT of football coaches over the years. Many of them are the same dude - arrogant, exhausted, a bit on edge, very little interest in anything unrelated to their immediate job goals. Urban Meyer must really, really be next level to have this many people hate his ass.
I'm sure he'll find Jesus or go on some apology tour to try and find some poor AD foolish enough to exploit again.
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So, how does this work?
If someone is in practice and returns 4 kickoffs for TD's, is he a free agent with choice to go after whatever NFL team wants him?
Does the NFL team have to give a bump of cash to the XFL team for giving him up?
XFL announces partnership with NFL Alumni Academy to scout, train potential players for XFL's 2023 season
If someone is in practice and returns 4 kickoffs for TD's, is he a free agent with choice to go after whatever NFL team wants him?
Does the NFL team have to give a bump of cash to the XFL team for giving him up?
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In regard to the draft bible's bigboard - could they have made it less friendly to view?
Do they do that mess on purpose?
Do they do that mess on purpose?
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Dan Patrick’s team made a point that stuck with me…
He’s the 4th best QB in that division too.
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So he'll make more than Rodgers per year for the next 3 years, but I doubt this gets the same criticism that he destroyed his team because he's only above average instead of great.
These contracts are going to get more ridiculous after next year when the cap shoots up 25-30 million.
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Uhhh no. You either don't know Rodgers deal or you don't math well. Rodgers signed for 3yrs/$150mil. That's $50mil/year. Carr signed for a shade over $40mil/year.uscbucsfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:46 pmSo he'll make more than Rodgers per year for the next 3 years, but I doubt this gets the same criticism that he destroyed his team because he's only above average instead of great.
These contracts are going to get more ridiculous after next year when the cap shoots up 25-30 million.
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I'm referring to cap hit, the way they structured it:King Bootz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:00 pmUhhh no. You either don't know Rodgers deal or you don't math well. Rodgers signed for 3yrs/$150mil. That's $50mil/year. Carr signed for a shade over $40mil/year.uscbucsfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:46 pm
So he'll make more than Rodgers per year for the next 3 years, but I doubt this gets the same criticism that he destroyed his team because he's only above average instead of great.
These contracts are going to get more ridiculous after next year when the cap shoots up 25-30 million.
Rodgers:
2022- 28.5mm
2023- 31.6mm
2024- 40.7mm
2025-59.3mm (16 mm in dead cap if cut)
2026- 53.4mm (8 mm in dead cap if cut)
From what the speculation is on Carr's contract he'll have a higher cap hit for the next 3 years, as I stated in my post.
edit: I didn't do the math OTC and Sportstrac did