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I wonder if JPP would want to become a coach? When he hangs them up...
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:12 pm Has JPP went full silence?
Yes, with his play on the field
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acmillis wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:57 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:12 pm Has JPP went full silence?
Yes, with his play on the field
I don't want him back at any price. Now is JTS's time. And Cam Gill flashed last year too.
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MJW wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:15 am
acmillis wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:57 pm

Yes, with his play on the field
I don't want him back at any price. Now is JTS's time. And Cam Gill flashed last year too.
Anthony Nelson as well.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:47 am
MJW wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:15 am

I don't want him back at any price. Now is JTS's time. And Cam Gill flashed last year too.
Anthony Nelson as well.
Truth. We're ready to move on.

At defensive tackle...yeesh. Not a lot out there. Former Bears Akiem Hicks and Eddie Goldman. Brandon Williams. Jonathan Hankins. Star Lotulelei. Larry Ogunjobi, if he can pass a physical. A few others. Not much at all, and we absolutely have to sign a veteran who can play some meaningful snaps.
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MJW wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:17 am
real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:47 am
Anthony Nelson as well.
Truth. We're ready to move on.

At defensive tackle...yeesh. Not a lot out there. Former Bears Akiem Hicks and Eddie Goldman. Brandon Williams. Jonathan Hankins. Star Lotulelei. Larry Ogunjobi, if he can pass a physical. A few others. Not much at all, and we absolutely have to sign a veteran who can play some meaningful snaps.
I keep hearing this draft is deep at DL. Could we get a good rookie DT?
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Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:40 am
MJW wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:17 am

Truth. We're ready to move on.

At defensive tackle...yeesh. Not a lot out there. Former Bears Akiem Hicks and Eddie Goldman. Brandon Williams. Jonathan Hankins. Star Lotulelei. Larry Ogunjobi, if he can pass a physical. A few others. Not much at all, and we absolutely have to sign a veteran who can play some meaningful snaps.
I keep hearing this draft is deep at DL. Could we get a good rookie DT?
One would think we could improve.
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Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:40 am
MJW wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:17 am

Truth. We're ready to move on.

At defensive tackle...yeesh. Not a lot out there. Former Bears Akiem Hicks and Eddie Goldman. Brandon Williams. Jonathan Hankins. Star Lotulelei. Larry Ogunjobi, if he can pass a physical. A few others. Not much at all, and we absolutely have to sign a veteran who can play some meaningful snaps.
I keep hearing this draft is deep at DL. Could we get a good rookie DT?
I think it's a foregone conclusion we take a DL in the first three rounds. And maybe more than one guy. We have to. Right now, our starting three (inasmuch as we use that look) is Vea, Gholston, and Benny Potato. Top backups? Kobe Smith and someone called "Willington Previlon," a name I had never heard before in my life until I wrote this post.

I would say to get this thing remotely near where it needs to be, we need to land one of those guys I mentioned above, add another vet minimum type who can provide some depth, draft a guy pretty high, and maybe even then draft another one late.

I'd love to take a swing at Johnathan Hankins, but I don't know if we have the cap room. Add my guy Travis Jones or maybe Phidarian Mathis in the 2nd, outbid for a top UDFA or two, and keep an eye on camp cuts...we could be decent there.
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MJW wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:20 am
Primeminister wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:40 am

I keep hearing this draft is deep at DL. Could we get a good rookie DT?
I think it's a foregone conclusion we take a DL in the first three rounds. And maybe more than one guy. We have to. Right now, our starting three (inasmuch as we use that look) is Vea, Gholston, and Benny Potato. Top backups? Kobe Smith and someone called "Willington Previlon," a name I had never heard before in my life until I wrote this post.

I would say to get this thing remotely near where it needs to be, we need to land one of those guys I mentioned above, add another vet minimum type who can provide some depth, draft a guy pretty high, and maybe even then draft another one late.

I'd love to take a swing at Johnathan Hankins, but I don't know if we have the cap room. Add my guy Travis Jones or maybe Phidarian Mathis in the 2nd, outbid for a top UDFA or two, and keep an eye on camp cuts...we could be decent there.
Nacho (#56) is under contract and would be the starter in Suh's currently vacant 3T role next to Vea. Nacho has performed well the past couple of seasons.

But I agree we need atleast 1 more quality interior Dlinemen for the rotation. Maybe 2.

I could see us re-signing Suh and drafting his replacement for 2023 at pick 27 next month.
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No Mathis for me.
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King Bootz wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:59 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:53 pm



Cannot find it
That doesn't surprise me 1 bit.
Suh said it was a torn PCL, not ACL.



Partial PCL tears don't necessarily require surgery from what I read about it.
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You hoo hoo hoo found it.
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mdb1958 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:33 am You hoo hoo hoo found it.
No you didn't.
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Buc2 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 am
mdb1958 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:33 am You hoo hoo hoo found it.
No you didn't.
He said you found it
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King Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:43 am
Buc2 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 am

No you didn't.
He said you found it
Duh. I misread an mdb post. Imagine that?
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I'd love to have Suh and JPP back. Obviously the contracts have to work, we may need to fill depth with cheaper no names... er I mean gems. But if they come cheap I'm in. These guys rotate a lot. JTS gonna earn his snaps by being better. Period.
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At this point JPP has to earn his snaps. He has not been good these past 2 seasons in which he was paid a lot of money. He's 33 now and the injuries have piled up. Time to upgrade, whether it JTS or another EDGE player.
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JPP should just retire and feel good about an amazing career. But the injuries have mounted for him and he’s not that effective a player anymore and I’m not sure the pay is worth the risk for him at this point considering his career earnings.

Suh I’m hoping comes back, he low key had a great year last year.

I think with Shaq, JTS, Gill and Nelson we are in good shape at edge though wouldn’t pass on a stud if one slipped to us (not quite sold on JTS, he still needs to prove it).

As Dread said, getting Suhs replacement at the end of round 1 might be the move.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:12 am JPP should just retire and feel good about an amazing career. But the injuries have mounted for him and he’s not that effective a player anymore and I’m not sure the pay is worth the risk for him at this point considering his career earnings.

Suh I’m hoping comes back, he low key had a great year last year.

I think with Shaq, JTS, Gill and Nelson we are in good shape at edge though wouldn’t pass on a stud if one slipped to us (not quite sold on JTS, he still needs to prove it).

As Dread said, getting Suhs replacement at the end of round 1 might be the move.
Why no mention of Gholston? He's back for his 10th year with the team.
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Buc2 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:56 pm
real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:12 am JPP should just retire and feel good about an amazing career. But the injuries have mounted for him and he’s not that effective a player anymore and I’m not sure the pay is worth the risk for him at this point considering his career earnings.

Suh I’m hoping comes back, he low key had a great year last year.

I think with Shaq, JTS, Gill and Nelson we are in good shape at edge though wouldn’t pass on a stud if one slipped to us (not quite sold on JTS, he still needs to prove it).

As Dread said, getting Suhs replacement at the end of round 1 might be the move.
Why no mention of Gholston? He's back for his 10th year with the team.
Gholston plays a different position than Suh but glad he’s back.
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real bucs fan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:54 pm
Buc2 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:56 pm

Why no mention of Gholston? He's back for his 10th year with the team.
Gholston plays a different position than Suh but glad he’s back.
My bad. You said edge and then also mentioned Suh, so I thought you were talking about DL in general.
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whistlepig777 wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:09 am
King Bootz wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:07 am

I doubt that.

A post yesterday gave me a huge clue.

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PetePierson wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:02 pm Lots of odd handles showing up. Fret not BucZone bitches.... that cunt Rocker is on it.

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PetePierson wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:08 pm
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_MB_ wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:54 pm
whistlepig777 wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:09 am
Get fucked, loser. :D
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whistlepig777 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:12 pm
_MB_ wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:54 pm
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_MB_ wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:23 pm
whistlepig777 wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:12 pm
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Have an upvote.
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nybf wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:13 pm
Actual LOL. Gotta love that he recognized the moment when he saw it, though.
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King Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:38 am At this point JPP has to earn his snaps. He has not been good these past 2 seasons in which he was paid a lot of money. He's 33 now and the injuries have piled up. Time to upgrade, whether it JTS or another EDGE player.
I fear we will be watching as they get picked. Even with a large amount of them, that makes it even worse.
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:57 am
King Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:38 am At this point JPP has to earn his snaps. He has not been good these past 2 seasons in which he was paid a lot of money. He's 33 now and the injuries have piled up. Time to upgrade, whether it JTS or another EDGE player.
I fear we will be watching as they get picked. Even with a large amount of them, that makes it even worse.
We really don't need a rusher, unless one thinks Shaq is going to decline (or JTS isn't going to develop.) I hope LOTS of them go, pushing defensive linemen, corners, and guards to us.
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MJW wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:18 am
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:57 am

I fear we will be watching as they get picked. Even with a large amount of them, that makes it even worse.
We really don't need a rusher, unless one thinks Shaq is going to decline (or JTS isn't going to develop.) I hope LOTS of them go, pushing defensive linemen, corners, and guards to us.
Players get nicked, hurt, go in the tent, face someone they cannot beat one on one. Bringing in another DB on third down and rushing four has not looked to good for us. Plus I'm a believer that talent pushes talent.
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Over the hill vets still have usefulness as rotational depth. It's all about the price.
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Doctor wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:20 pm Over the hill vets still have usefulness as rotational depth. It's all about the price.
Based on how he looked last year, I'm not sure JPP would beat out a talented UDFA in a fair fight. That's the problem. He didn't look like he could play the game anymore. It's nice to say, "We can bring JPP off the bench as depth," but when he's a liability, he's a liability.
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MJW wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:21 pm
Doctor wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:20 pm Over the hill vets still have usefulness as rotational depth. It's all about the price.
Based on how he looked last year, I'm not sure JPP would beat out a talented UDFA in a fair fight. That's the problem. He didn't look like he could play the game anymore. It's nice to say, "We can bring JPP off the bench as depth," but when he's a liability, he's a liability.
I'm not sure either. But luckily for us we don't need to assume anything. That's what training camp is for. Plenty of vets get cut come preseason.
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