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Dude looks like the real deal.
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:01 am Scott Reynolds (Pewter Report) went on to mention that Ravens former S Ed Reed and Brett Favre had this same Hip procedure done and still had very good careers.
Morrison mentioned this in his first interview as well. Also mentioned they waited to have the surgery until his growth plates had closed, which means much less likely to have reoccurring issues or stiffness.
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I didn’t realize Zyon McCollum was in the last year of his deal. I thought we drafted him in 2023. This makes this pick all that more important. The hope is likely that Morrison steps into that role in 2026.
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So, which is it?

A wasted pick?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:06 pm We now have 3 press corners that will be forced to play zone and then wonder why we have coverage issues...
Or the steal of the draft?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:18 pm Per pewter report we had a private workout with him where he did a full workout. All his medicals checked out.

Think we may have got a massive steal.

Draft just keeps getting better.
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I mean it's not an inconsistent take. If we draft press corners and play them in zone they can both be amazing players and utilized poorly.
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Backside wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:52 am
Graphically shows just how much the draft means to these kids. Worked all their lives to this point and to get the call. Man. That's gotta be a great feeling.
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Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:22 am So, which is it?

A wasted pick?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:06 pm We now have 3 press corners that will be forced to play zone and then wonder why we have coverage issues...
Or the steal of the draft?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:18 pm Per pewter report we had a private workout with him where he did a full workout. All his medicals checked out.

Think we may have got a massive steal.

Draft just keeps getting better.
They're not mutually exclusive.
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Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:22 am So, which is it?

A wasted pick?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:06 pm We now have 3 press corners that will be forced to play zone and then wonder why we have coverage issues...
Or the steal of the draft?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:18 pm Per pewter report we had a private workout with him where he did a full workout. All his medicals checked out.

Think we may have got a massive steal.

Draft just keeps getting better.
They're not mutually exclusive.
We're paying the price for a half-measure taken by The Union 160 years ago.

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BucsNBills wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:26 am
Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:22 am So, which is it?

A wasted pick?



Or the steal of the draft?

They're not mutually exclusive.
Well, if the pick is wasted, then it wasn't much of a steal.
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Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:22 am So, which is it?

A wasted pick?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:06 pm We now have 3 press corners that will be forced to play zone and then wonder why we have coverage issues...
Or the steal of the draft?
BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:18 pm Per pewter report we had a private workout with him where he did a full workout. All his medicals checked out.

Think we may have got a massive steal.

Draft just keeps getting better.
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BucsNBills wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:26 am
Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:22 am So, which is it?

A wasted pick?



Or the steal of the draft?

They're not mutually exclusive.
A wasted steal?
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Central_Buc wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:01 am Scott Reynolds (Pewter Report) went on to mention that Ravens former S Ed Reed and Brett Favre had this same Hip procedure done and still had very good careers.
I saw that somewhere

Fucking Scott Reynolds has a habit of stealing quotes without giving proper credit.
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Bootz wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:36 am
BucsNBills wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:26 am

They're not mutually exclusive.
A wasted steal?
Yeah. That's what had me scratching my head which is why I called it out. Makes no sense.
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Backside wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:52 am
That's actually incredible. My eyes swelled up just watching that and I can't make it stop.
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Ken wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:23 am I mean it's not an inconsistent take. If we draft press corners and play them in zone they can both be amazing players and utilized poorly.
It's an interesting habit by Bowles, getting press corners and then having them play zone, and one which I have struggled to understand. Perhaps his reasoning is that it's much easier to teach a press man corner to play passable zone than it is to teach a natural zone corner to dominate in press. Perhaps he wants to play man more often but just doesn't have the horses to do it.

It's frustrating to watch, but I wouldn't chalk it up to incompetence. Bowles was a Superbowl starting safety and when he hung them up he coached defensive backs before he was a coordinator. He has been playing as a defensive back or coaching them for over 40 years; he knows what he's doing and knows talent when he sees it.
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Cheb wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:15 pm
Ken wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:23 am I mean it's not an inconsistent take. If we draft press corners and play them in zone they can both be amazing players and utilized poorly.
It's an interesting habit by Bowles, getting press corners and then having them play zone, and one which I have struggled to understand. Perhaps his reasoning is that it's much easier to teach a press man corner to play passable zone than it is to teach a natural zone corner to dominate in press. Perhaps he wants to play man more often but just doesn't have the horses to do it.

It's frustrating to watch, but I wouldn't chalk it up to incompetence. Bowles was a Superbowl starting safety and when he hung them up he coached defensive backs before he was a coordinator. He has been playing as a defensive back or coaching them for over 40 years; he knows what he's doing and knows talent when he sees it.


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Cheb wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:15 pm
Ken wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:23 am I mean it's not an inconsistent take. If we draft press corners and play them in zone they can both be amazing players and utilized poorly.
It's an interesting habit by Bowles, getting press corners and then having them play zone, and one which I have struggled to understand. Perhaps his reasoning is that it's much easier to teach a press man corner to play passable zone than it is to teach a natural zone corner to dominate in press. Perhaps he wants to play man more often but just doesn't have the horses to do it.

It's frustrating to watch, but I wouldn't chalk it up to incompetence. Bowles was a Superbowl starting safety and when he hung them up he coached defensive backs before he was a coordinator. He has been playing as a defensive back or coaching them for over 40 years; he knows what he's doing and knows talent when he sees it.

That's what makes the defensive struggles so frustrating.
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Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:39 am
Bootz wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:36 am

A wasted steal?
Yeah. That's what had me scratching my head which is why I called it out. Makes no sense.
I was responding to my 2 quotes. I ignored your false editorializing.

Does that clear things up?
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BucsNBills wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:40 pm
Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:39 am

Yeah. That's what had me scratching my head which is why I called it out. Makes no sense.
I was responding to my 2 quotes. I ignored your false editorializing.

Does that clear things up?
That you're a moron? Yep. That about does it.
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Buc2 wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:43 pm
BucsNBills wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:40 pm

I was responding to my 2 quotes. I ignored your false editorializing.

Does that clear things up?
That you're a moron? Yep. That about does it.
Not my fault you can't reconcile two different perspectives on a specific issue.

But given what I know, your inability to do so is completely on brand :lol:
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There is no such thing as a man corner.

The league is 70% zone. If you can't play zone you can't play corner.
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Bowles has said it a few times in past game pressers when asked why he's gotten away from his beloved man coverage plays and the answer is always been playing to players strengths, which hasn't been man.

And a big reason for that has been Jemel Dean and his health. When we CD3, SMB, and Dean deep we ran hella man. Man is far less forgiving than zone.

But when you can't count on Dean to man one side of a field he can't get on... And I wouldn't want Hayes or Thunderburk manned on any decent WR2.

We got an outside and slot CB who are damn good at man. That was very intentional.
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Bootz wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 10:51 am I didn’t realize Zyon McCollum was in the last year of his deal. I thought we drafted him in 2023. This makes this pick all that more important. The hope is likely that Morrison steps into that role in 2026.
More likely they extend McCollum and trade Dean or let him walk at the end of his deal, imo.
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Doctor wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:40 am
Doctor wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:38 pm Big fan of Will Johnson. Don't how he falls to us but if so, run to the podium.

After him Morrison or Barron are my BPA CBs that could be there at 19.

Day 2 I love Alexander from LSU and Cobee Bryant, maybe as a safety.

Doctor wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:58 pm Revel is like Morrison for me. If the injury checks out, I'm on board.

Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:07 pm
If Revel and Morrison had had fully healthy seasons they could've easily played themselves to the top of the CB rankings.
Smash freaking pick. I would've been happy with Benmo at 19. If the injury isn't an issue, he could end up being the to CB in this class. I love the pick, I love the fit, what a steal.



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Bootz wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:36 am
BucsNBills wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:26 am

They're not mutually exclusive.
A wasted steal?
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Grahamburn wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:43 pm
Bootz wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 10:51 am I didn’t realize Zyon McCollum was in the last year of his deal. I thought we drafted him in 2023. This makes this pick all that more important. The hope is likely that Morrison steps into that role in 2026.
More likely they extend McCollum and trade Dean or let him walk at the end of his deal, imo.
I really hope we don't cut/trade Dean. No reason to lose him even though he's likely going to miss some games. He's still our best CB when healthy and now we have a really good rookie who will be available to fill in and ultimately replace Dean altogether once he's earned it.

We have fantastic CB depth now, no reason to compromise it now.
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BucsNBills wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:03 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:43 pm

More likely they extend McCollum and trade Dean or let him walk at the end of his deal, imo.
I really hope we don't cut/trade Dean. No reason to lose him even though he's likely going to miss some games. He's still our best CB when healthy and now we have a really good rookie who will be available to fill in and ultimately replace Dean altogether once he's earned it.

We have fantastic CB depth now, no reason to compromise it now.
I don't think we would.

If anything, keep our vets and bring our rookies along at their own pace, because Zyon is a free agent next season and Dean will be the season after.
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Cheb wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:30 pm ... Zyon is a free agent next season and Dean will be the season after.
I'm going out on a limb here: Dean will be gone, and that salary cap will be diverted to Zyon.
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No reason to lose Dean. Put us right back in that pickle. To save $6M in cap to use on what?

The very CB depth we just lost?
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This year? No. Dean is a Buc.

Dean has two years left on his deal. I think you let him play that out considering average corners were getting $20M AAV in free agency.

But, you could trade him after the season if you get Carlton Davis value and you’re comfortable with Zyon and Morrison.
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Doctor wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:57 pm No reason to lose Dean. Put us right back in that pickle. To save $6M in cap to use on what?

The very CB depth we just lost?
Not now, next year when Zyon will be looking to get paid.
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Backside wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:52 am
I think I watched this 20 times. It’s gone viral.

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Doctor wrote: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:57 pm No reason to lose Dean. Put us right back in that pickle. To save $6M in cap to use on what?

The very CB depth we just lost?
True. I don't understand the obsession with getting rid Dean asap? Why? I've seen this posted heaps everywhere.

He's a decent to good CB. That makes the CB room worse. The goal should be to have drafted CB's hit and Dean is pushed down the order and relied upon less. That's what good teams to build out their depth. Proven players as depth if they're replaced as starters.

Otherwise we're back to the Hayes, Funderburk etc mess and heaven forbid injury hits also.
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