With their first round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, Tampa Bay selects...

[Sdbucs]

Back to back 7-10 years will get Bowles & Licht canned

I'll be honest, if we went 7-10 the next 2 years, odds are I'd be ok with keeping Bowles and perfectly ok with firing Licht.

Licht has been the best GM this team has ever has an Bowles has been a generic HC that's slightly underperformed. Give me the opposite outcome, Bowles gone Licht here

[CannonFire]

I'll be honest, if we went 7-10 the next 2 years, odds are I'd be ok with keeping Bowles and perfectly ok with firing Licht.

Licht has been the best GM this team has ever had

That's a very low bar.

[Doctor]

Is it? 10 franchises have more championships than us despite us being the 5th youngest franchise and having a historically bad beginning.

[Cheb]

I know it is probably isn't responsible to select a receiver in the first round, but Tetairoa McMillan, wide receiver from Arizona, has first round pick written all over him.

I am always on the lookout for the next Mike Evans. T Mac might be that guy.

[Phantom]

Carson Beck!

[kaimaru]

I know it is probably isn't responsible to select a receiver in the first round, but Tetairoa McMillan, wide receiver from Arizona, has first round pick written all over him.

I am always on the lookout for the next Mike Evans. T Mac might be that guy.

Him and Jalen would have to get the nickname TJ Mcs

[Cheb]

I know it would be deeply irresponsible to do, but Ashton Jeanty, the running back from Boise State, is REALLY good at football (the best runner in the country probably), and if he ended up as a Buccaneer that would please me greatly.

[Grahamburn]

QB, Texas: Quinn Ewers

Never change.

[Grahamburn]

I know it would be deeply irresponsible to do, but Ashton Jeanty, the running back from Boise State, is REALLY good at football (the best runner in the country probably), and if he ended up as a Buccaneer that would please me greatly.

RB not looking like a big need.

Who’s the best iLB in the country? Can typically get those guys late 20s, OR with the 32nd overall.

[Grahamburn]

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/LB/1/2025

[Cheb]

I know it would be deeply irresponsible to do, but Ashton Jeanty, the running back from Boise State, is REALLY good at football (the best runner in the country probably), and if he ended up as a Buccaneer that would please me greatly.

RB not looking like a big need.

Who’s the best iLB in the country? Can typically get those guys late 20s, OR with the 32nd overall.

It's not a great year for offball linebackers, so it seems.

Harold Perkins out of LSU was the consensus top linebacker in college before he tore his ACL in September. And he was an undersized guy who made his bread by being athletic, so one wonders how that's gonna tank his stock.

After him, Barrett Carter from Clemson looks good, but more of a second rounder? Kind of a jack of all trades, master of none kind of guy. I don't watch a lot of Clemson football, but his highlights show admirable instincts.

[Grahamburn]

I’d say corner is our biggest need then. Jamel Dean has a $15M cap hit next year.

[BuccaNOLEer]

I’d say corner is our biggest need then. Jamel Dean has a $15M cap hit next year.

Corner would be one of them but we also need help at guard, edge rusher and inside linebacker.

[Grahamburn]

I’d say corner is our biggest need then. Jamel Dean has a $15M cap hit next year.

Corner would be one of them but we also need help at guard, edge rusher and inside linebacker.

For sure. I think you can add the linebacker later of course. Impact EDGE guys aren't typically found late 1st round and they just drafted Braswell. I think they have plans for Elijah Klein at guard.

If we cannot keep Godwin WR looks like it might be a big need as well.

[Sdbucs]

BPA at 32

Most likely a DB, DT, WR, or IOL

[BuccaNOLEer]

Corner would be one of them but we also need help at guard, edge rusher and inside linebacker.

For sure. I think you can add the linebacker later of course. Impact EDGE guys aren't typically found late 1st round and they just drafted Braswell. I think they have plans for Elijah Klein at guard.

If we cannot keep Godwin WR looks like it might be a big need as well.

McMillan was supposed to be Godwin's eventual replacement but so far, I don't see it.

[Grahamburn]

For sure. I think you can add the linebacker later of course. Impact EDGE guys aren't typically found late 1st round and they just drafted Braswell. I think they have plans for Elijah Klein at guard.

If we cannot keep Godwin WR looks like it might be a big need as well.

McMillan was supposed to be Godwin's eventual replacement but so far, I don't see it.

Not giving up on him or anything, but that hype certainly fizzled quickly.

[Kona]

At this point, I don’t see how we don’t being Godwin back, we’re not the same team without him offensively. Right now we have about 28 mil In cap space, but a restructure here and there and we can get more.
Re-sign Whitehead and see if we can get Lavonte back for one more run.

If I had to pick one position alright now I’d say CB. Cut or trade Dean, use some of that cap to get Godwin back in the fold and bring in a FA (maybe Hall comes back cheap), and draft a first round corner to pair with Zyon for years to come.

Target ILB, Edge, TE, depth at OL for the remaining.

[CannonFire]

QB, Texas: Quinn Ewers

Never change.

I can say the same to you, that post was in May.

[Grahamburn]

Never change.

I can say the same to you, that post was in May.

Change your mind yet?

I’ll agree these next 4 will go a long way in determining how we feel about the QB.

[CannonFire]

I can say the same to you, that post was in May.

Change your mind yet?

I’ll agree these next 4 will go a long way in determining how we feel about the QB.

Depends on how where he's projected to go. I don't follow college football, so I don't know how good or bad he's doing.

[Grahamburn]

Change your mind yet?

I’ll agree these next 4 will go a long way in determining how we feel about the QB.

Depends on how where he's projected to go. I don't follow college football, so I don't know how good or bad he's doing.

I was talking about Baker. We’re going head to head against Lamar, Kirk, Patrick, and Brock the next 4 weeks. If Baker is competent and competitive I’ll feel great about the QB situation going forward.

I feel pretty good already. But, you want to see that consistent high end play against top competition.

[CannonFire]

Depends on how where he's projected to go. I don't follow college football, so I don't know how good or bad he's doing.

I was talking about Baker. We’re going head to head against Lamar, Kirk, Patrick, and Brock the next 4 weeks. If Baker is competent and competitive I’ll feel great about the QB situation going forward.

I feel pretty good already. But, you want to see that consistent high end play against top competition.

I don't think he's worth $40M AAV (or more), per year... if that's what you're asking. I don't think he's any better (or worse really), than about 15-20 other guys. I think there's a half dozen who are clearly better than everyone else. I think there's another half dozen who we don't quite yet know who they are and a couple 2 or 3 that suck. Licht made his bed, now he/we have to sleep in it with Mayfield. Just because I have to accept that fact, it doesn't mean I think he's right nor does that change my opinion that Mayfield is nothing more than an average QB who has a great supporting cast around him.

[Backside]

It's BPA, but it would be great if that ended up being an EDGE rusher, or CB.

ILB in the first round would have to be an amazing prospect, but I'm open to it. Ideally we can add one of those on day 2.

[Backside]

I like that Baker non-believers are now being forced to admit that Licht has built up an incredible team at least.

[BJJ34]

Question:

Tyler Warren(PSU TE). A man amongst boys. Penn State has historically been good at sending TE's to the league(Freirmuth is a top 5 TE). We have a need for a balling TE who takes over games. Baker's best friend. It's been Godwin. But what if Godwin has another Penn Stater beside him collecting in third downs. If you've watched even a quarter of PSU ball all year, you will see Warren stand out. He makes ridiculous catches, blocks, plays qb, plays RB, plays C. He catches just about everything thrown his way. Breaks tackles. Blocks. Have I said he makes ridiculous catches yet?

[Cheb]

Question:

Tyler Warren(PSU TE). A man amongst boys. Penn State has historically been good at sending TE's to the league(Freirmuth is a top 5 TE). We have a need for a balling TE who takes over games. Baker's best friend. It's been Godwin. But what if Godwin has another Penn Stater beside him collecting in third downs. If you've watched even a quarter of PSU ball all year, you will see Warren stand out. He makes ridiculous catches, blocks, plays qb, plays RB, plays C. He catches just about everything thrown his way. Breaks tackles. Blocks. Have I said he makes ridiculous catches yet?

In the second round, sure. Not what I would do, but I respect it. We have an abundance of cheap young tight ends (a statement which out of context looks bad). Would adding another who isn't a dominant athlete be the best use of our draft resources? I'm not sure it would be.

[BJJ34]

Question:

Tyler Warren(PSU TE). A man amongst boys. Penn State has historically been good at sending TE's to the league(Freirmuth is a top 5 TE). We have a need for a balling TE who takes over games. Baker's best friend. It's been Godwin. But what if Godwin has another Penn Stater beside him collecting in third downs. If you've watched even a quarter of PSU ball all year, you will see Warren stand out. He makes ridiculous catches, blocks, plays qb, plays RB, plays C. He catches just about everything thrown his way. Breaks tackles. Blocks. Have I said he makes ridiculous catches yet?

In the second round, sure. Not what I would do, but I respect it. We have an abundance of cheap young tight ends (a statement which out of context looks bad). Would adding another who isn't a dominant athlete be the best use of our draft resources? I'm not sure it would be.

I’d argue that he’s got better uses of his limited athletic ability. Some guys just have it.

[mdb1958]

Would our 2nd round pick be in the 60's? I'll check who is around right now.

[Cheb]

In the second round, sure. Not what I would do, but I respect it. We have an abundance of cheap young tight ends (a statement which out of context looks bad). Would adding another who isn't a dominant athlete be the best use of our draft resources? I'm not sure it would be.

I’d argue that he’s got better uses of his limited athletic ability. Some guys just have it.

Maybe.

Tyler Warren is not a physically dominant guy from a physicality, speed, or strength perspective. While he's willingly physical against secondary players after the catch, he isn't bodying people. One wonders if he is going to have issues separating against professional defenders.

Again, not what I would do, and lord knows I've been wrong about prospects before. But there isn't a huge difference imo between Tyler Warren and Cade Otton or Payne Durham. If we fed Cade 17 balls a game, he'd probably look similar.

In addition to the above, when I'm looking at draft picks for the Bucs, I always like to ask myself if play at that position is keeping the Bucs from winning games. The Bucs have FAR bigger fish to fry than adding a (probably) luxury tight end who offers the same skill set as the guys we already have.

[mdb1958]

I’d argue that he’s got better uses of his limited athletic ability. Some guys just have it.

Maybe.

Tyler Warren is not a physically dominant guy from a physicality, speed, or strength perspective. While he's willingly physical against secondary players after the catch, he isn't bodying people. One wonders if he is going to have issues separating against professional defenders.

Again, not what I would do, and lord knows I've been wrong about prospects before. But there isn't a huge difference imo between Tyler Warren and Cade Otton or Payne Durham. If we fed Cade 17 balls a game, he'd probably look similar.

In addition to the above, when I'm looking at draft picks for the Bucs, I always like to ask myself if play at that position is keeping the Bucs from winning games. The Bucs have FAR bigger fish to fry than adding a (probably) luxury tight end who offers the same skill set as the guys we already have.

Thumbs up Cheb!

[BJJ34]

Cheb, I think where we will agree to disagree is the usage of Warren. There is a reason he’s getting the reps he’s getting. He’s a threat with the ball. Your analysis is spot on for the most part, and I will be butt-hurt if he fails as a prospect.

[Cheb]

Cheb, I think where we will agree to disagree is the usage of Warren. There is a reason he’s getting the reps he’s getting. He’s a threat with the ball. Your analysis is spot on for the most part, and I will be butt-hurt if he fails as a prospect.

Maybe. Again, I think that Warren could be a good second round pick, as a solid but unsexy possession guy, a net-neutral blocker who can catch defenders napping when they don't take him seriously, sorta like Dallas Clark. You can make hay with that.

We will see what happens.

[mdb1958]

We seem to like giving up two draft picks for TE's.

[BJJ34]

Cheb, I think where we will agree to disagree is the usage of Warren. There is a reason he’s getting the reps he’s getting. He’s a threat with the ball. Your analysis is spot on for the most part, and I will be butt-hurt if he fails as a prospect.

Maybe. Again, I think that Warren could be a good second round pick, as a solid but unsexy possession guy, a net-neutral blocker who can catch defenders napping when they don't take him seriously, sorta like Dallas Clark. You can make hay with that.

We will see what happens.

6’6, 260 isn’t small for NFL Terms. I agree he has some room to grow as a blocker, but he has physical prowess. Clark was significantly smaller. I liken him more to a slightly smaller Gronk without the freak nature. If he hit the weight room hard(PSU known for), he could potentially be even bigger. Lots of hope for a great pick.

I think he’s PSU’s best prospecy. Aller doesn’t get the love he deserves either.