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Snake wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:26 pm I just think the 49ers are forced to play JG if Lance is what ends up holding the team back this season. They have to go for the gold. They can’t wait for his timeline this season. Jimmy G was also just given a pay raise and no trade clauze? Wow.
That would be the ultimate irony seeing as JG was literally the thing that was holding them back last season.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:03 pm
Snake wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:26 pm I just think the 49ers are forced to play JG if Lance is what ends up holding the team back this season. They have to go for the gold. They can’t wait for his timeline this season. Jimmy G was also just given a pay raise and no trade clauze? Wow.
That would be the ultimate irony seeing as JG was literally the thing that was holding them back last season.
Oh 100%! I’m not a JG fan, for the record. From a distance it seems like the locker room prefers him though.
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Snake wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:04 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:03 pm

That would be the ultimate irony seeing as JG was literally the thing that was holding them back last season.
Oh 100%! I’m not a JG fan, for the record. From a distance it seems like the locker room prefers him though.
This is one of those decisions made with the heart and not the head.

I'm not sure of any other instances in which a team replaced their long term starter and kept him on the team as a backup.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:09 pm
Snake wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:04 pm

Oh 100%! I’m not a JG fan, for the record. From a distance it seems like the locker room prefers him though.
This is one of those decisions made with the heart and not the head.

I'm not sure of any other instances in which a team replaced their long term starter and kept him on the team as a backup.
That's...a damn good question.

I can't really think of an example that would fit neatly into this category. I think this is just a weird confluence of personality types. Jimmy G realized he was going to make more from the 49ers than he would on the open market, and swallowed his pride I think. Shanny and Lynch, it kinda felt like a face-saving move...like, "See, we TOLD YOU we were fine with keeping him, so nuts to you if you didn't trade for him!" Lance, I have no idea what's going through his head. This feels like the opposite of a vote of confidence, but at the same time the 49ers never opened up the QB competition. Is that because of sunk cost? Or do they genuinely feel like this is a 1-2 situation and everyone involved knows it?

FWIW, I'm a huge Lance fan. I see a ton of elite traits in his profile. But it's impossible to feel like this doesn't have SOMETHING to do with a lack of confidence in either his game or his ability to stay healthy.
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I thought Eli Manning was in a similar situation. Apparently they let him lose the job after opening with two losses before handing it over to rookie Jones.
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Snake wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:55 pm I thought Eli Manning was in a similar situation. Apparently they let him lose the job after opening with two losses before handing it over to rookie Jones.
The Giants didn't spend the entire offseason shopping Manning and telling him to stay away while letting Jones take all of the 1st team reps and telling the world this was his team now.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:18 pm
Snake wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:55 pm I thought Eli Manning was in a similar situation. Apparently they let him lose the job after opening with two losses before handing it over to rookie Jones.
The Giants didn't spend the entire offseason shopping Manning and telling him to stay away while letting Jones take all of the 1st team reps and telling the world this was his team now.
I was going to mention Eli has probably the closest example, but yeah, it doesn't even work.

I honestly can't think of one. Did Kurt Warner agree to mentor Marc Bulger at one point? Maybe that?
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Doesn't mean anything, but it’s better than the alternative. Bucs had the most preseason sacks of any NFC team.

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We blitzed a lot. Works against bad QBs. Torched against good ones.
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OJ Howard released by the Bills
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Kona wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:14 am OJ Howard released by the Bills
Came here to say this

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Primeminister wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:08 am Doesn't mean anything, but it’s better than the alternative. Bucs had the most preseason sacks of any NFC team.

Yeah, Bucs is 0-3.. Preseason doesn’t mean anything
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18-1 Patriots went 2-2 in PS
0-16 Lions went 4-0 in PS
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Snake wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:10 am 18-1 Patriots went 2-2 in PS
0-16 Lions went 4-0 in PS
Do teams want to win their preseason games? Sure. Who doesn't want to win? But, if you know you have a good team, you need to be more interested in seeing what you have after your starters. When a team is set at the top of the roster, that means digging deep into the bottom of the roster because it's tougher to make the decision on who your backups are going to be. Winning becomes secondary.
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Good news for us.
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Philly gonna win the East.
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Nano wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:33 am
I was shocked initially. Then I remembered he's playing safety now and they signed Marcus Maye & Tyrann Mathieu this offseason.
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He's picked off Brady twice and created a 3rd pick in the last 2 years. I'm good with it.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:44 am He's picked off Brady twice and created a 3rd pick in the last 2 years. I'm good with it.
That's surprising considering he gets torched so much and only has 5 career picks. Wouldn't have guessed that 2 came off Brady.
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King Bootz wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:49 am
uscbucsfan wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:44 am He's picked off Brady twice and created a 3rd pick in the last 2 years. I'm good with it.
That's surprising considering he gets torched so much and only has 5 career picks. Wouldn't have guessed that 2 came off Brady.
There was also the argument between him and Brady on the sideline. He/the coach said something about having Brady's number or something after his pick and Brady told him to go fuck himself....then Brady threw his tablet.

Saints fans talk about him as the Brady kryptonite as he's had a few other pass deflections as well.
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Nano wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:33 am
Wow. Saints fans absolutely love this guy and are pissed.

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This is like the Bucs trading Dean and they already have 24 pages of material since 10am!
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:09 pm
Snake wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:04 pm

Oh 100%! I’m not a JG fan, for the record. From a distance it seems like the locker room prefers him though.
This is one of those decisions made with the heart and not the head.

I'm not sure of any other instances in which a team replaced their long term starter and kept him on the team as a backup.



If a starting QB goes down who would be at the top of the list for trade? He could overide the no-trade clause if he's going where he would agree to it.

Plus be in charge of his contract.
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Seems like the 49ers decided that keeping JG around was better than him catching on and starting for a division rival.


(they also have some deep down concerns about Lance. tee hee)
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:41 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:09 pm

This is one of those decisions made with the heart and not the head.

I'm not sure of any other instances in which a team replaced their long term starter and kept him on the team as a backup.


If a starting QB goes down who would be at the top of the list for trade? He could overide the no-trade clause if he's going where he would agree to it.
I think the team whose qb went down would be at the top of the list.
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Snake wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:33 pm This is like the Bucs trading Dean and they already have 24 pages of material since 10am!
The fans love the guy because of his attitude. Shit talker extraordinaire, he's drawn more than one late flag bon us.
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Caradoc wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:14 pm
Snake wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:33 pm This is like the Bucs trading Dean and they already have 24 pages of material since 10am!
The fans love the guy because of his attitude. Shit talker extraordinaire, he's drawn more than one late flag bon us.
Yep he's an instigator. Made a guy say fuck it and get himself ejected from the game vs Chicago.

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Nano wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:42 pm

lol
Even asked themselves and said no. Priceless.
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King Bootz wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:00 pm
Nano wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:42 pm

lol
Even asked themselves and said no. Priceless.
"Alright, we just literally asked every other team in the league and they all said no."

"Well...do we want to keep him?"

"...No."

"shit"
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Nano wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:10 pm
King Bootz wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:00 pm

Even asked themselves and said no. Priceless.
"Alright, we just literally asked every other team in the league and they all said no."

"Well...do we want to keep him?"

"...No."

"shit"
Would I bring him in for basically nothing to compete with (checks notes) Fred Johnson and Brandon Walton? Yes.
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MJW wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:28 am
Nano wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:10 pm

"Alright, we just literally asked every other team in the league and they all said no."

"Well...do we want to keep him?"

"...No."

"shit"
Would I bring him in for basically nothing to compete with (checks notes) Fred Johnson and Brandon Walton? Yes.
I'd offer him a practice squad gig and see what happens, for sure.
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King Bootz wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:36 pm
Caradoc wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:14 pm

The fans love the guy because of his attitude. Shit talker extraordinaire, he's drawn more than one late flag bon us.
Yep he's an instigator. Made a guy say fuck it and get himself ejected from the game vs Chicago.

I've wanted to do that to many a Saints player over the years. :lol:
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RIP Steve White.

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