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Sdbucs wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:51 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:44 am Of the players listed I personally would take McMillan if he actually fell that far. I don't think he does though. I expect they'll be taking Ezeiruaku or Starks, and knowing how Licht prefers to get starters with his 1sts I'd put my money on Starks.
In my mocks I generally have something like this before us:

7 offensive - 2 QB, 3 OL, 1 RB, 1 TE
11 defensive - 3 CB, 3 DT, 4 EDGE, 1 LB

I can see a world where none of the WRs are picked early.

The 3 teams picking directly before us are all hungry for defense and I expect a run on DE/LB there.
Then I’d say we’re in a good spot to trade down.
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The play vs Ohio State at 1:41
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:33 pm
GoldenBudda wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:58 am

I'd say Kenneth Grant would be awesome to essentially split reps with Vea, giving us the ultimate run clogging front. This keeps both players fresh.

The second DT is a bit harder to project. Darius Alexander is probably the guy I'd prefer. Not a fan of the top talent outside of Grant.

I wonder how many of them think with Vea I finally get to face just one player. Some of these DT's could even allow Vea to attack from a different position.
I know Bowles would get really creative with Grant & Vea. Goal line 4 man fronts with Vea, Grant, Kancey and Diaby would be stout. Stop the run, protect the ILB's. Force double teams to increase sacks by teammates. There are so many benefits to having this type of player.

I can't ever remember a team having two behemoths like that. I would absolutely love to see it.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:41 am
Doctor wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:46 pm I take Jihaad. Then Tet.
"Alabama linebacker Jihaad Campbell's s labrum recovery is something teams are still sizing up. It's not because the injury is complex or an overly concerning procedure, but Campbell had the surgery right after the combine," Yates said. "Teams are still working to get as much information as they can about how ready Campbell will be for training camp or even the regular season. At full strength, I believe he's a top-20 player in this class, but don't be surprised if he slides into the late first or early second round."
I just can't see us taking him when he's not likely able to contribute this season.
LB, especially iLB, already comes with a one year+ learning curve in this system anyway. I don't mind redshirting him.
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GoldenBudda wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:40 pm I can't ever remember a team having two behemoths like that. I would absolutely love to see it.
John Henderson and Marcus Stroud
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__Chef__ wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:56 pm
GoldenBudda wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:40 pm I can't ever remember a team having two behemoths like that. I would absolutely love to see it.
John Henderson and Marcus Stroud
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Vea has more QB hits than both of them combined
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:43 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:51 pm

In my mocks I generally have something like this before us:

7 offensive - 2 QB, 3 OL, 1 RB, 1 TE
11 defensive - 3 CB, 3 DT, 4 EDGE, 1 LB

I can see a world where none of the WRs are picked early.

The 3 teams picking directly before us are all hungry for defense and I expect a run on DE/LB there.
Then I’d say we’re in a good spot to trade down.
By all accounts it will be tough to find a team trying to move up into that range.
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Backside wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:49 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:43 pm

Then I’d say we’re in a good spot to trade down.
By all accounts it will be tough to find a team trying to move up into that range.
If I'm the Chiefs and this scenario plays out, I'd make a call to see what it would take to snag McMillan or Hunter.
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Sdbucs wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:33 pm

The play vs Ohio State at 1:41
I'm pretty sure his multiple SA accusations take him off Licht's board.
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Backside wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:49 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:43 pm

Then I’d say we’re in a good spot to trade down.
By all accounts it will be tough to find a team trying to move up into that range.
In the hypothetical presented no WRs have been taken. If that’s the case it’s a prime spot in front of several teams.

Could also be a great spot for us and I’d probably take McMillan. Defense be damned.
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Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
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In the NFL a lot of those passes get intercepted
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This offense doesn't really use the TE as a focal point. With the state of the defense I couldn't get on board with that kind of selection.
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BucsNBills wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:31 pm Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
I think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:47 am This offense doesn't really use the TE as a focal point. With the state of the defense I couldn't get on board with that kind of selection.
If there is a TE wonder boy and he is there at our pick, give us those three picks to get him!
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:53 am
BucsNBills wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:31 pm Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
I think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.
Any flags on these Edge rushers that might stop a team from drafting them - just may be an illusion. I think they get drafted anyways. Since you talked about Greens thing he dropped for awhile in the twenty's but now he is getting drafted before we could consider it.
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mdb1958 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:42 am
Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:53 am

I think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.
Any flags on these Edge rushers that might stop a team from drafting them - just may be an illusion. I think they get drafted anyways. Since you talked about Greens thing he dropped for awhile in the twenty's but now he is getting drafted before we could consider it.
Some teams will care. Some teams won't. We'll know for real in a week.
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How far would we be willing to trade back if say Sanders were to fall to our pick? You have to think some team or teams will want to get in front of Pittsburgh if Sanders and/or Dart are available.

Let's say the Giants offered #34, #65, and #99 to get up to #19. Cleveland also has #33, #67, and #94. I think I'd take either of those packages.

#19 is worth 875 by the trade chart. Those packages are ~900. So, for a QB? Might even be able to get some 2026 seasoning on it. But, I'd do those deals.
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:53 am
BucsNBills wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:31 pm Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
I think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:30 am How far would we be willing to trade back if say Sanders were to fall to our pick? You have to think some team or teams will want to get in front of Pittsburgh if Sanders and/or Dart are available.

Let's say the Giants offered #34, #65, and #99 to get up to #19. Cleveland also has #33, #67, and #94. I think I'd take either of those packages.

#19 is worth 875 by the trade chart. Those packages are ~900. So, for a QB? Might even be able to get some 2026 seasoning on it. But, I'd do those deals.
I would absolutely take either of those trade packages to trade back. There will be tons of good players left at 33 and 34 and there's a chance we'll still get the guy we would've taken at 19.

I'm not sure what would need to take place for Sanders to drop to 19, but that would be the dream scenario for us IMO.
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BucsNBills wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:57 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:30 am How far would we be willing to trade back if say Sanders were to fall to our pick? You have to think some team or teams will want to get in front of Pittsburgh if Sanders and/or Dart are available.

Let's say the Giants offered #34, #65, and #99 to get up to #19. Cleveland also has #33, #67, and #94. I think I'd take either of those packages.

#19 is worth 875 by the trade chart. Those packages are ~900. So, for a QB? Might even be able to get some 2026 seasoning on it. But, I'd do those deals.
I would absolutely take either of those trade packages to trade back. There will be tons of good players left at 33 and 34 and there's a chance we'll still get the guy we would've taken at 19.

I'm not sure what would need to take place for Sanders to drop to 19, but that would be the dream scenario for us IMO.
If he gets past the Saints none of those teams need a QB.
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Chills ... Are we in for a repeat?


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He looks so young.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:31 pm He looks so young.
People forget when we drafted Mike, we had Vincent Jackson on the team ... funny looking back at Mike's draft profile: possession receiver with playmaking ability who projects as a No. 2 in the pros ... 4th best WR combine ranking in the 2014 draft class.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mike-evan ... 8233f6fea5

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tetairoa- ... 4e646a998f
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Do all the NFL draft experts have some connection with Licht? Almost all analysts predicted that the Bucs would select Campbell.
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__Chef__ wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:29 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:31 pm He looks so young.
People forget when we drafted Mike, we had Vincent Jackson on the team ... funny looking back at Mike's draft profile: possession receiver with playmaking ability who projects as a No. 2 in the pros ... 4th best WR combine ranking in the 2014 draft class.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mike-evan ... 8233f6fea5

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tetairoa- ... 4e646a998f
he’s clearly the best wide receiver in that class.
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Phantom wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:46 pm
__Chef__ wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:29 pm

People forget when we drafted Mike, we had Vincent Jackson on the team ... funny looking back at Mike's draft profile: possession receiver with playmaking ability who projects as a No. 2 in the pros ... 4th best WR combine ranking in the 2014 draft class.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mike-evan ... 8233f6fea5

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tetairoa- ... 4e646a998f
he’s clearly the best wide receiver in that class.
Crazy how close Davonte Adams stats are though ...

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Phantom wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:41 pm Do all the NFL draft experts have some connection with Licht? Almost all analysts predicted that the Bucs would select Campbell.
It’s weird how much his injury/surgery is ignored. He’s probably falling to the 2nd round.

Unlikely Licht takes another iLB with a shoulder injury.
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Watch Jihaad be my Branch this year. An S tier player that will fall for dumb reason but still go before us in round 2. Sigh.
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A torn labrum is not a dumb reason, and the guy has plenty of issues even if healthy.
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If you want your Brian Branch player draft Barron or Starks.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:24 am If you want your Brian Branch player draft Barron or Starks.


How many of the top DB's are thinking - coach I can't play your style of defense
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If you think that is the injury is bad bad, sure. Take him off your board. Heart breaking but injuries ruin players all the time.

But if not, and you think he's legit, "missing week 1 of this rookie year" is a dumb reason to pass on a franchise player. Other dumb reason is people just devalue off ball LBs, I disagree.
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