Then I’d say we’re in a good spot to trade down.Sdbucs wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:51 pmIn my mocks I generally have something like this before us:Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:44 am Of the players listed I personally would take McMillan if he actually fell that far. I don't think he does though. I expect they'll be taking Ezeiruaku or Starks, and knowing how Licht prefers to get starters with his 1sts I'd put my money on Starks.
7 offensive - 2 QB, 3 OL, 1 RB, 1 TE
11 defensive - 3 CB, 3 DT, 4 EDGE, 1 LB
I can see a world where none of the WRs are picked early.
The 3 teams picking directly before us are all hungry for defense and I expect a run on DE/LB there.
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The play vs Ohio State at 1:41
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I know Bowles would get really creative with Grant & Vea. Goal line 4 man fronts with Vea, Grant, Kancey and Diaby would be stout. Stop the run, protect the ILB's. Force double teams to increase sacks by teammates. There are so many benefits to having this type of player.mdb1958 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:33 pmGoldenBudda wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:58 am
I'd say Kenneth Grant would be awesome to essentially split reps with Vea, giving us the ultimate run clogging front. This keeps both players fresh.
The second DT is a bit harder to project. Darius Alexander is probably the guy I'd prefer. Not a fan of the top talent outside of Grant.
I wonder how many of them think with Vea I finally get to face just one player. Some of these DT's could even allow Vea to attack from a different position.
I can't ever remember a team having two behemoths like that. I would absolutely love to see it.
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LB, especially iLB, already comes with a one year+ learning curve in this system anyway. I don't mind redshirting him.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:41 amI just can't see us taking him when he's not likely able to contribute this season."Alabama linebacker Jihaad Campbell's s labrum recovery is something teams are still sizing up. It's not because the injury is complex or an overly concerning procedure, but Campbell had the surgery right after the combine," Yates said. "Teams are still working to get as much information as they can about how ready Campbell will be for training camp or even the regular season. At full strength, I believe he's a top-20 player in this class, but don't be surprised if he slides into the late first or early second round."

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John Henderson and Marcus StroudGoldenBudda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:40 pm I can't ever remember a team having two behemoths like that. I would absolutely love to see it.
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__Chef__ wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:56 pmJohn Henderson and Marcus StroudGoldenBudda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:40 pm I can't ever remember a team having two behemoths like that. I would absolutely love to see it.
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Vea has more QB hits than both of them combined
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By all accounts it will be tough to find a team trying to move up into that range.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:43 pmThen I’d say we’re in a good spot to trade down.Sdbucs wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:51 pm
In my mocks I generally have something like this before us:
7 offensive - 2 QB, 3 OL, 1 RB, 1 TE
11 defensive - 3 CB, 3 DT, 4 EDGE, 1 LB
I can see a world where none of the WRs are picked early.
The 3 teams picking directly before us are all hungry for defense and I expect a run on DE/LB there.
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I'm pretty sure his multiple SA accusations take him off Licht's board.
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In the hypothetical presented no WRs have been taken. If that’s the case it’s a prime spot in front of several teams.
Could also be a great spot for us and I’d probably take McMillan. Defense be damned.
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Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
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In the NFL a lot of those passes get intercepted
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This offense doesn't really use the TE as a focal point. With the state of the defense I couldn't get on board with that kind of selection.
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I think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.BucsNBills wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:31 pm Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
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If there is a TE wonder boy and he is there at our pick, give us those three picks to get him!Grahamburn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:47 am This offense doesn't really use the TE as a focal point. With the state of the defense I couldn't get on board with that kind of selection.
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Any flags on these Edge rushers that might stop a team from drafting them - just may be an illusion. I think they get drafted anyways. Since you talked about Greens thing he dropped for awhile in the twenty's but now he is getting drafted before we could consider it.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:53 amI think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.BucsNBills wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:31 pm Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
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Some teams will care. Some teams won't. We'll know for real in a week.mdb1958 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:42 amAny flags on these Edge rushers that might stop a team from drafting them - just may be an illusion. I think they get drafted anyways. Since you talked about Greens thing he dropped for awhile in the twenty's but now he is getting drafted before we could consider it.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:53 am
I think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.
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How far would we be willing to trade back if say Sanders were to fall to our pick? You have to think some team or teams will want to get in front of Pittsburgh if Sanders and/or Dart are available.
Let's say the Giants offered #34, #65, and #99 to get up to #19. Cleveland also has #33, #67, and #94. I think I'd take either of those packages.
#19 is worth 875 by the trade chart. Those packages are ~900. So, for a QB? Might even be able to get some 2026 seasoning on it. But, I'd do those deals.
Let's say the Giants offered #34, #65, and #99 to get up to #19. Cleveland also has #33, #67, and #94. I think I'd take either of those packages.
#19 is worth 875 by the trade chart. Those packages are ~900. So, for a QB? Might even be able to get some 2026 seasoning on it. But, I'd do those deals.
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Grahamburn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:53 amI think we're going with Ezeiruaku or Starks, so those two would be of interest.BucsNBills wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:31 pm Anyone want draft profiles for specific prospects from Dan Brugler's "The Beast"?
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I would absolutely take either of those trade packages to trade back. There will be tons of good players left at 33 and 34 and there's a chance we'll still get the guy we would've taken at 19.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:30 am How far would we be willing to trade back if say Sanders were to fall to our pick? You have to think some team or teams will want to get in front of Pittsburgh if Sanders and/or Dart are available.
Let's say the Giants offered #34, #65, and #99 to get up to #19. Cleveland also has #33, #67, and #94. I think I'd take either of those packages.
#19 is worth 875 by the trade chart. Those packages are ~900. So, for a QB? Might even be able to get some 2026 seasoning on it. But, I'd do those deals.
I'm not sure what would need to take place for Sanders to drop to 19, but that would be the dream scenario for us IMO.
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If he gets past the Saints none of those teams need a QB.BucsNBills wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:57 pmI would absolutely take either of those trade packages to trade back. There will be tons of good players left at 33 and 34 and there's a chance we'll still get the guy we would've taken at 19.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:30 am How far would we be willing to trade back if say Sanders were to fall to our pick? You have to think some team or teams will want to get in front of Pittsburgh if Sanders and/or Dart are available.
Let's say the Giants offered #34, #65, and #99 to get up to #19. Cleveland also has #33, #67, and #94. I think I'd take either of those packages.
#19 is worth 875 by the trade chart. Those packages are ~900. So, for a QB? Might even be able to get some 2026 seasoning on it. But, I'd do those deals.
I'm not sure what would need to take place for Sanders to drop to 19, but that would be the dream scenario for us IMO.
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Chills ... Are we in for a repeat?
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He looks so young.
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People forget when we drafted Mike, we had Vincent Jackson on the team ... funny looking back at Mike's draft profile: possession receiver with playmaking ability who projects as a No. 2 in the pros ... 4th best WR combine ranking in the 2014 draft class.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mike-evan ... 8233f6fea5
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tetairoa- ... 4e646a998f
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Do all the NFL draft experts have some connection with Licht? Almost all analysts predicted that the Bucs would select Campbell.
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he’s clearly the best wide receiver in that class.__Chef__ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:29 pmPeople forget when we drafted Mike, we had Vincent Jackson on the team ... funny looking back at Mike's draft profile: possession receiver with playmaking ability who projects as a No. 2 in the pros ... 4th best WR combine ranking in the 2014 draft class.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mike-evan ... 8233f6fea5
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tetairoa- ... 4e646a998f
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Crazy how close Davonte Adams stats are though ...Phantom wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:46 pmhe’s clearly the best wide receiver in that class.__Chef__ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:29 pm
People forget when we drafted Mike, we had Vincent Jackson on the team ... funny looking back at Mike's draft profile: possession receiver with playmaking ability who projects as a No. 2 in the pros ... 4th best WR combine ranking in the 2014 draft class.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mike-evan ... 8233f6fea5
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It’s weird how much his injury/surgery is ignored. He’s probably falling to the 2nd round.
Unlikely Licht takes another iLB with a shoulder injury.
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Watch Jihaad be my Branch this year. An S tier player that will fall for dumb reason but still go before us in round 2. Sigh.

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A torn labrum is not a dumb reason, and the guy has plenty of issues even if healthy.
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If you want your Brian Branch player draft Barron or Starks.
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Grahamburn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:24 am If you want your Brian Branch player draft Barron or Starks.
How many of the top DB's are thinking - coach I can't play your style of defense
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If you think that is the injury is bad bad, sure. Take him off your board. Heart breaking but injuries ruin players all the time.
But if not, and you think he's legit, "missing week 1 of this rookie year" is a dumb reason to pass on a franchise player. Other dumb reason is people just devalue off ball LBs, I disagree.
But if not, and you think he's legit, "missing week 1 of this rookie year" is a dumb reason to pass on a franchise player. Other dumb reason is people just devalue off ball LBs, I disagree.

