2022 Offseason Thread

[Snake]

91 snaps in 2021

[mdb1958]

The talking point with Stinnie is he was ready when his number was called.

[MJW]

Good move re-signing Stinnie. Competent, knows the offense, cheap. Those are the guys you love to surround your youth with.

[Backside]

CD3 is as good as gone. Surprised we let a really solid corner go without (seemingly) much fight. I hope a great CB prospect is sitting there at 27, because I feel we’ll go that direction regardless.

[MJW]

CD3 is as good as gone. Surprised we let a really solid corner go without (seemingly) much fight. I hope a great CB prospect is sitting there at 27, because I feel we’ll go that direction regardless.

I really, really hope Godwin's demands were next level, because losing CD is a direct result of having to use the franchise tag on him.

[Nano]

CD3 is as good as gone. Surprised we let a really solid corner go without (seemingly) much fight. I hope a great CB prospect is sitting there at 27, because I feel we’ll go that direction regardless.

I really, really hope Godwin's demands were next level, because losing CD is a direct result of having to use the franchise tag on him.

I wonder if it's because of the agent. Supposedly, Chris Godwin has the same agent as Mike Williams(who just got 20APY)

[MJW]

I really, really hope Godwin's demands were next level, because losing CD is a direct result of having to use the franchise tag on him.

I wonder if it's because of the agent. Supposedly, Chris Godwin has the same agent as Mike Williams(who just got 20APY)

I'd honestly give him that. 4-80-30, or 3-60-20...Sure. How are we ending up ahead paying him $19 Mil with no cap relief and no long-term team control?

Like I said, I hope he was asking for $25 or some insane number.

[Miller4Prez64]

I honestly would have tried to keep the young defense together and rebuild the offense. Paying both Evans and Godwin a high salary makes no sense without a QB and now our defense will be worse because of it.

[MJW]

I honestly would have tried to keep the young defense together and rebuild the offense. Paying both Evans and Godwin a high salary makes no sense without a QB and now our defense will be worse because of it.

This is a legit perspective. Once we realized Brady was gone, the offense was going to struggle. That part is nobody's fault.

On the other hand, we could have leaned into that and tried to win slugfests. We could have saved the $19 mil on Godwin, used the savings to re-sign CD24 and the incredibly underrated Jordan Whitehead (who somehow isn't getting talked about AT ALL), brought back Gholston for one last year, landed a solid FA defensive lineman, maybe drafted another at either 27 or 60. We could have tried to win games 17-13 while asking Trask to play safe.

It seems quite likely we're not going to be good at anything next year.

[Miller4Prez64]

I honestly would have tried to keep the young defense together and rebuild the offense. Paying both Evans and Godwin a high salary makes no sense without a QB and now our defense will be worse because of it.

This is a legit perspective. Once we realized Brady was gone, the offense was going to struggle. That part is nobody's fault.

On the other hand, we could have leaned into that and tried to win slugfests. We could have saved the $19 mil on Godwin, used the savings to re-sign CD24 and the incredibly underrated Jordan Whitehead (who somehow isn't getting talked about AT ALL), brought back Gholston for one last year, landed a solid FA defensive lineman, maybe drafted another at either 27 or 60. We could have tried to win games 17-13 while asking Trask to play safe.

It seems quite likely we're not going to be good at anything next year.

The only way tagging Godwin and prioritizing our FAs on offense makes sense is if we trade for Watson. But even then, I don’t think we would be legit threats for another Super Bowl with a weakened defense.

[MJW]

This is a legit perspective. Once we realized Brady was gone, the offense was going to struggle. That part is nobody's fault.

On the other hand, we could have leaned into that and tried to win slugfests. We could have saved the $19 mil on Godwin, used the savings to re-sign CD24 and the incredibly underrated Jordan Whitehead (who somehow isn't getting talked about AT ALL), brought back Gholston for one last year, landed a solid FA defensive lineman, maybe drafted another at either 27 or 60. We could have tried to win games 17-13 while asking Trask to play safe.

It seems quite likely we're not going to be good at anything next year.

The only way tagging Godwin and prioritizing our FAs on offense makes sense is if we trade for Watson. But even then, I don’t think we would be legit threats for another Super Bowl with a weakened defense.

If Brady had come back, we have been - at best - a Darkhorse contender. Like, a +1500 "sure you have to give them a chance because Brady, but they're going to need a TON of luck and help" type contender.

As soon as Brady retired, that should have been that on our "window." Nothing we could do this offseason was going to make us a legit Superbowl contender in 2022. Not trading for the right quarterback. Not getting hometown discounts with the right free agents. Not a brilliant draft. The 53 isn't good enough, there isn't enough cap space, and we don't have enough draft capital. It's over. We got to the top of the hill and we're past it now. You can't turn around and go back. All you can do is start running sooner towards the next hill.

With that in mind, spending $19 mil of cap space on a one-year rental of Chris Godwin is lunacy. Especially when the opportunity cost is almost certainly Carlton Davis, and surely some combination of Carlton Davis, Jordan Whitehead, Alex Cappa, etc. The only reason not to freak out about how wrongheaded it was would be a) if we trade him in the next 2 days or b) if we lock him up long-term in the next two days and lower his cap hit to where we can keep a few of those guys (especially Davis.)

Losing a 25 year old true #1 corner like Carlton Davis is a disaster. It's almost unheard of unless the guy wants to leave his team (like Gilmore in Buffalo.) We're seriously going to let him leave for no compensation beyond like the 97th pick in the 2023 draft. Lunacy.

[Grahamburn]

CD3 is as good as gone. Surprised we let a really solid corner go without (seemingly) much fight. I hope a great CB prospect is sitting there at 27, because I feel we’ll go that direction regardless.

There has to be something about Carlton Davis the person that they don’t want to commit to.

[Backside]

If we can’t at least keep Whitehead then it’s truly grim.

Maybe a top draft pick next year is realistic… I really think BA is just a super weird fit right now.

Should be an exciting week anyway. My expectations couldn’t be lower at the moment. Either it further blows up, or maybe we scrape something together that can conjure a hint of excitement for the new season.

Either way, at the end of it Licht/BA will have to get in front of a mic and try to explain the direction this team is headed. That should be something.

[The Outsider]

You guys are saying the sky is falling and free agency hasn't even officially started. I'll probably wait until training camp before I start making preparations to jump off the skyway.

[uscbucsfan]

Saints and Panthers are the favorites for Watson. Both expected to meet with him.

Saints show that cap room isn't real. They are still 7 million over after restructuring Lattimore and can add 35 million cap hit of Watson.

[BJJ34]

You guys are saying the sky is falling and free agency hasn't even officially started. I'll probably wait until training camp before I start making preparations to jump off the skyway.

Knowing myself who went all out for Josh Freeman, I’ll still be arguing Kyle Trask is good to my buddies after his 3rd or 4th pick six into the season. Then it’s jump off the bridge into shark infested waters mentality.

[Digital_Damage]

I've been telling you how fucked we are ..., holes galore and no cap to fix.

[Phantom]

Saints and Panthers are the favorites for Watson. Both expected to meet with him.

Saints show that cap room isn't real. They are still 7 million over after restructuring Lattimore and can add 35 million cap hit of Watson.

According to Ian

Notes:
1. Yes, the Saints can fit him under the cap.
2. The Texans will work with Watson and grant permission for him to speak with teams with real offers.
3. The Panthers have been interested for a year and have never waivered

[Primeminister]

[Phantom]

Thank god, I don’t want Baker Mayfield here haha

[Phantom]

Per cbs sports

Are you ok with this if this trade happen

Buccaneers
Projected offer: 2022 first-round pick (No. 27), 2023 first-round pick, 2024 first-round pick, 2023 conditional fifth-round pick, LB Devin White

They're trying to win now, so they don't really have a plethora of logical trade chips on the roster, hence the inclusion of three firsts. White, meanwhile, is just 24 with an All-Pro nod on his resume, but he'll soon be due for a big-money extension. He'd at least give new Texans coach Lovie Smith one building block for a porous defense

[Phantom]

Who?

My grandpa got a text from One Bucs Place that Watson is coming here

Rightttt

[Snake]

trading White? I don’t need to hear anything else. Do it Dom!

[BearLandBucFan]

I don't think we could do that trade an be able to get under the cap would we?

[uscbucsfan]

I don't think we could do that trade an be able to get under the cap would we?

Absolutely

[Snake]

I don't think we could do that trade an be able to get under the cap would we?

Do not underestimate the Fuckery that can be done with a salary cap like the NFL’s. It is also expanding rapidly.

[King Bootz]

trading White? I don’t need to hear anything else. Do it Dom!

Yea it's always great to create a problem without having any solutions.

[Snake]

We can pay somebody league minimum to allow 90% completions through the air and be a liability.

[Four Verticals]

I hope T-Kraz blocked whoever he got the tweet from.

[Swashbuckler]

This offseason owns. The NFL is gonna be in shambles

[whistlepig777]

:::: smokescreen ::::

[Backside]

Jensen three year deal.


3/$39

[Dread]

Jensen is back on a 3yr deal

[King Bootz]

[Phantom]

Good thing he’s not going to the Bengals haha