TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS @ CAROLINA PANTHERS OFFICIAL GAME DAY THREAD

[13F11B]

Have I missed the PA pass on first down or has Leftwhich just not called one?

[TonyLip]

AB showtime

[Patrick McIrish]

Yeah Cam is not the best running QB of all time, maybe top 10.

For example Jackson is head and shoulders better now than Cam ever was.

[Bucsfan83]

Cam Newton is maybe the best running quarterback of all-time, and he's probably the best redzone running quarterback ever. Playing him in the red zone is a good idea so the defense is forced to play 11-on-11.

No.
Michael Vick
Randall Cunningham
Steve Young

I would put all of them above Cam Newton. I might put Donovan McNabb and Steve Grogan above him as well.

While true, Newton was good at one time. Ever since that one play in the superbowl where he didn't dive for the football, he just hasn't been the same.

[13F11B]

Finally, they called a pass on 1st down. Nice pickup too.

[Patrick McIrish]

Even with LF healthy I'd like to see more RoJo.

Rotate them back and forth, sort of like Dallas does with Zeke and Pollard.

He looks pretty good so far today.

[Cheb]

Cam Newton is maybe the best running quarterback of all-time, and he's probably the best redzone running quarterback ever. Playing him in the red zone is a good idea so the defense is forced to play 11-on-11.

No.
Michael Vick
Randall Cunningham
Steve Young

I would put all of them above Cam Newton. I might put Donovan McNabb and Steve Grogan above him as well.

Cam Newton is the NFL career-leader in rushing touchdowns by a quarterback with 74. The second closest guy is Steve Young with 43. He also has the most rushing attempts by the QB in NFL history and is second in rushing yards.

Cam is the best red-zone rushing quarterback of all time, full stop. I don't like the guy much, but credit where it's due, he's very good at running the ball, as his 33 yard run against us today showed.

[13F11B]

No.
Michael Vick
Randall Cunningham
Steve Young

I would put all of them above Cam Newton. I might put Donovan McNabb and Steve Grogan above him as well.

While true, Newton was good at one time. Ever since that one play in the superbowl where he didn't dive for the football, he just hasn't been the same.

Cam was good. He was not the best of all-time. Period.

[King Bootz]

What was that?? Looks like Brady threw it too soon?

[Bucsfan83]

What was that?? Looks like Brady threw it too soon?

Howard ran into brate

[ATrain]

What a dogshit play. Three players in one spot.

[Cheb]

What was that?? Looks like Brady threw it too soon?

He was rushed and had to dump it off, Howard hadn't worked himself free.

It happens. Better that than the sack.

[Patrick McIrish]

Cam was good. He was not the best of all-time. Period.

Correct.

[13F11B]

What a mess of a 3rd down play that was. Brate did not come under the two guys clearing for him.

[Bucsfan83]

What a dogshit play. Three players in one spot.

It's not a bad design if howard doesn't run into brate. It clears all stuff underneath so he can run for a first down.

[Snake]

While true, Newton was good at one time. Ever since that one play in the superbowl where he didn't dive for the football, he just hasn't been the same.

Cam was good. He was not the best of all-time. Period.

Cam’s peak as an athlete (or a ball carrier QB) may have been short but it was ATG good imo. There isn’t a long list.

[Cheb]

What a mess of a 3rd down play that was. Brate did not come under the two guys clearing for him.

If Brate would've run that shallower, it woulda been a nice call.

[Patrick McIrish]

When you play physical with Brady he's a different QB.

He just is.

[13F11B]

What a dogshit play. Three players in one spot.

No, the play call on that was fine. It was meant for Brate and he needed to come under the other two a bit more. If that was run properly it would have likely scored.

[King Bootz]

What a mess of a 3rd down play that was. Brate did not come under the two guys clearing for him.

Judging by where the throw was, looks like Howard was supposed to clear on the outside. Who knows though, that was a mess.

[Dread]

I'm going to guess Howard got confused there.

Brate's defender played that way over the top and it would've been an uncontested short slant.

Howard got in the way. lol..

[ATrain]

Back to back failed drives.

Meh guess I can't expect much with all our best weapons injured.

[Snake]

I just saw Vaughn‘s touchdown. I guess that’s what he did in college. Pretty good runner in a straight line. Panthers defense looking like shit and bad tackling.

[Patrick McIrish]

Sure Snake, but greatest running QB of all time?

Put down the edibles.

Of course it's an opinion, not everyone will see it the same.

[Nobody]

What a dogshit play. Three players in one spot.

Its an outside release Fade (Gronk) and Whip (Out and then Pivot back In from Howard) from Unbalanced Right w/ Brate coming hard underneath. Basically a Tunnel Screen concept without OL climbing 2nd level (so just a rub concept).

It was actually a winning play against the coverage.

Either Howard run the wrong depth on his Whip route or (more likely) Brate didn't run his Drag/Slant flat enough underneath it. My money is on the latter.

We have clown shoes moments of execution sometimes.

[King Bootz]

HA! The RB just stopped when he saw the defenders coming his way.

[Bucsfan83]

At least our defense is doing well for the most part.

[Primeminister]

Great defense on 1st. Shut the run down. Make them one dimensional.

[13F11B]

Time for Darnold to throw a pick six.

[Primeminister]

What a dogshit play. Three players in one spot.

Its an outside release Fade (Gronk) and Whip (Out and then Pivot back In from Howard) from Unbalanced Right w/ Brate coming hard underneath. Basically a Tunnel Screen concept without OL climbing 2nd level (so just a rub concept).

It was actually a winning play against the coverage.

Either Howard run the wrong depth on his Whip route or (more likely) Brate didn't run his Drag/Slant flat enough underneath it. My money is on the latter.

We have clown shoes moments of execution sometimes.

Thank you. That was a good play call with shit for execution. Sometimes it’s not on the coaches.

[ATrain]

What a dogshit play. Three players in one spot.

Its an outside release Fade (Gronk) and Whip (Out and then Pivot back In from Howard) from Unbalanced Right w/ Brate coming hard underneath. Basically a Tunnel Screen concept without OL climbing 2nd level (so just a rub concept).

It was actually a winning play against the coverage.

Either Howard run the wrong depth on his Whip route or (more likely) Brate didn't run his Drag/Slant flat enough underneath it. My money is on the latter.

We have clown shoes moments of execution sometimes.

That gross lack of execution is either coached or condoned.

[13F11B]

Back to back failed drives.

Meh guess I can't expect much with all our best weapons injured.

At least they are putting up some points vs. what they did against the Saints.

[Dread]

At least our defense is doing well for the most part.

The Cam counter run and the broken coverage when Darnold extended a play are why they have 6pts.

Most of the plays have been Bucs wins on defense

[Bucsfan83]

Time for Darnold Cam to throw a pick six.

Fixed it, or did I? Dangit, Darnold is back in.

[Patrick McIrish]

Thank you. That was a good play call with shit for execution. Sometimes it’s not on the coaches.

Point noted.