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I absolutely love Barron and he would've been my pick.

I'm figuring that he either got himself removed from our board for not being a "Buccaneer Man" for reason we don't know.... or more likely I think it's a combination of Egbuka simply putting himself in a higher BPA tier on OBP board, maybe, yes, with his stellar character.

I think another influence could be maybe OBP either didn't rate Barron and Johnson as high as the rest of us (or more likely) they don't have a big gap between them and the next crop. If Revel and Morrison had had fully healthy seasons they could've easily played themselves to the top of the CB rankings. Maybe they really like Amos. I really like Zy and Cobee.

As compared to the Egbuka gap, which they see is huge between him others.
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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:53 pm ... And make no mistake here, Egbuka IS physically gifted. He's not Ike.
You say this like Ike Hilliard was a bum. Ike was a heady technician who consistently found ways to get open and move the chains. That's this kid. Neither were YAC specialists who could make everyone miss, nor physical freaks who could muscle their way through contact, nor speed demons outrunning everyone.

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I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. CANES!!! :twisted:
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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:07 pm I absolutely love Barron and he would've been my pick.

I'm figuring that he either got himself removed from our board for not being a "Buccaneer Man" for reason we don't know.... or more likely I think it's a combination of Egbuka simply putting himself in a higher BPA tier on OBP board, maybe, yes, with his stellar character.

I think another influence could be maybe OBP either didn't rate Barron and Johnson as high as the rest of us (or more likely) they don't have a big gap between them and the next crop. If Revel and Morrison had had fully healthy seasons they could've easily played themselves to the top of the CB rankings. Maybe they really like Amos. I really like Zy and Cobee.

As compared to the Egbuka gap, which they see is huge between him others.
There are some DB's I like later in the draft too, but I'm not operating under the assumption we only needed a single mid round CB to hit for us.

FTR, Amos would be a great get too:
"Allowed sub-19 percent completion rate on throws of 20-plus air yards for his career, per PFF."

Cobee and Zy on my radar too.
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I’m really sick of the Pewter Report “reporters” ripping off of this board. If you’re gonna do it, you need to give credit.

Might be sending Scott Reynolds a nasty email soon. And if he doesn’t “get it,” we’ll go from there.
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It does feel that way sometimes doesn't it? I swear I hear my talking points spoken back to me on these YT channels. I prefer to think there are just others that see the light like I do.
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Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:42 pm I’m really sick of the Pewter Report “reporters” ripping off of this board. If you’re gonna do it, you need to give credit.

Might be sending Scott Reynolds a nasty email soon. And if he doesn’t “get it,” we’ll go from there.
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During Egbuka's intro presser, Bowles was asked where he sees him fitting into the offense and if he's going to be a slot receiver and Bowles responded by saying he's going to do all 3 positions as a receiver and they don't see him as a slot only player.

It's pretty clear Licht and Bowles see high end #2 or even #1 potential in EE which makes the pick all the sweeter.
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Bet he”ll wear #2
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:12 pm
Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:42 pm I’m really sick of the Pewter Report “reporters” ripping off of this board. If you’re gonna do it, you need to give credit.

Might be sending Scott Reynolds a nasty email soon. And if he doesn’t “get it,” we’ll go from there.
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Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:42 pm I’m really sick of the Pewter Report “reporters” ripping off of this board. If you’re gonna do it, you need to give credit.

Might be sending Scott Reynolds a nasty email soon. And if he doesn’t “get it,” we’ll go from there.
Pewter wrote:According to consensus there was a very narrow crop of truly elite players in this year’s draft. According to many analysts the number of blue-chip players available before any team had a chance to select was less than five. Now research shows that around 15 players from this crop will become an All-Pro at some point. Assuming every team has the same five consensus players, that leaves 10 wild cards.

If you are a team picking at No. 19 and a player who you believe is one of those 15 blue-chippers is still available, you take him. You especially take him if the fall off from 15-100 is negligible. And in this class, that is very much the line of thinking.

The Bucs didn’t get bad value at all with Egbuka. Pro Football Focus had him exactly 19th on their board. Most other sites had him as a top 32 pick, worthy of a first-round value. But beyond the overall value, is the specific value.
While it may be true that PFF had him exactly at 19, they had Donovan Ezeiruaku, Luther Burden III, Will Johnson, Jihaad Campbell, Jahdae Barron, Mike Green, and Malaki Starks all ahead of 19.

All still on the board when the Bucs picked.
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Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:42 pm I’m really sick of the Pewter Report “reporters” ripping off of this board. If you’re gonna do it, you need to give credit.

Might be sending Scott Reynolds a nasty email soon. And if he doesn’t “get it,” we’ll go from there.
It would be a difficult admission for a reporter to say "I ripped off a forum post, found here" with an attached link; they would be admitting that they were a hack.

Besides, there's enough plausible deniability via groupthink in Bucs' fandom that I don't think you could get any traction with accusations.

Unless it's word-for-word, it's hard to prove. Someone was plagiarizing my stuff a few years back, and I just laughed it off.

Call it flattery.
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Cheb wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:42 pm
Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:42 pm I’m really sick of the Pewter Report “reporters” ripping off of this board. If you’re gonna do it, you need to give credit.

Might be sending Scott Reynolds a nasty email soon. And if he doesn’t “get it,” we’ll go from there.
It would be a difficult admission for a reporter to say "I ripped off a forum post, found here" with an attached link; they would be admitting that they were a hack.

Besides, there's enough plausible deniability via groupthink in Bucs' fandom that I don't think you could get any traction with accusations.

Unless it's word-for-word, it's hard to prove. Someone was plagiarizing my stuff a few years back, and I just laughed it off.

Call it flattery.
This is a hinged and reasonable response to this situation.

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Our new OC is going to be under a TON of pressure to not screw this up, huh?
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Ok... Had a chance to cool down, watch the tape and the interviews.

I think strength of character and humilty and team concepts are a definite deciding factor for the Bucs, and I'm FINE with that.

Solid pick and ready to fit right in.
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Moozician wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:14 pm Ok... Had a chance to cool down, watch the tape and the interviews.

I think strength of character and humilty and team concepts are a definite deciding factor for the Bucs, and I'm FINE with that.

Solid pick and ready to fit right in.
Came here to say similar. We’re forming a cohesive unit on offense and he seems like he’ll fit right in.
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Egbuka wasn't on my radar at all. I watched some film but never got past the highlights, because he alliws the ball to come into his body instead of extending the arms. Arm extension, and plucking the ball with your hands is the #1 skillset a WR needs to have above all else. He should have been taught this before he was allowed to learn routes. It's receiving 101. If you're drafting a WR in the 1st round you should not have to be teaching him the basics.

So, we have a flaw in technique. What else? He was strictly a slot WR in college who benefitted from all the attention the stud #1 and #2 WR's were getting. Ok great, he can do the same for us with Mike and Chris getting all the attention.

So, what exactly is his role going forward? Right now, he projects as a slot only player. The Bucs think he can play all three, but he wasn't able to play outside in college. His play strength isn't there at the college level, how will it be against exponentially stronger pro's?

I hear a lot of chatter about this pick being about the future, as if Egbuka's going to take over for Mike, or Chris. At this moment, that isn't in the cards. He doesn't appear to have a large enough frame to add the muscle needed to make that move.

We drafted a small frame, slot only WR who needs to improve his catch tecgnique at No.19 when we already have a top 5 at worst WR room and one of the worst secondaries in the NFL. I feel we overpaid for what we got. We could have filled that role with a midround pick, or a FA.

Apparently he was BPA? I believe Licht when he says Egbuka was BPA. Egbuka was the BEST PERSON AVAILABLE. Jayden Higgens was the best WR available and Jahdae Barron was probably the best player available.

In truth, as long as Mike and Chris are healthy, he'll be fine. He can continue to benefit from others commanding the other teams best DB's, but I don't think this is going to be a situation where Mike or Chris goes down and Egbuka replaces them and saves the day. If I had to pick a WR at 19 it would've been Higgins. Everything OBP is saying about Ebuka is true about Higgins. He can play all positions, he could've been the heir apparent.

Here's to starting WR health and drafting a cornerback.
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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:07 pm I absolutely love Barron and he would've been my pick.

I'm figuring that he either got himself removed from our board for not being a "Buccaneer Man" for reason we don't know.... or more likely I think it's a combination of Egbuka simply putting himself in a higher BPA tier on OBP board, maybe, yes, with his stellar character.

I think another influence could be maybe OBP either didn't rate Barron and Johnson as high as the rest of us (or more likely) they don't have a big gap between them and the next crop. If Revel and Morrison had had fully healthy seasons they could've easily played themselves to the top of the CB rankings. Maybe they really like Amos. I really like Zy and Cobee.

As compared to the Egbuka gap, which they see is huge between him others.
Barron isn’t a great tackler, is under six feet tall and has short arms. All traits Bowles doesn’t like in his DBs supposedly. Toss in 8 INTs and 24 passes defensed in five seasons (5 and 11 last season) and he’s not looking like a sure-fire pick at 19 when there are other similar guys out there in this draft. Have to remember, not a lot of elite talent this year.
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Egbuka's elite straight-line speed demands respect from defensive backs, but it's his technical polish that will determine his NFL trajectory. The tape shows a receiver who wins with craft as much as athleticism, using subtle tempo changes and precise footwork to create separation. His reliable hands and advanced route understanding translate well to the next level, though he'll need to expand his release package against NFL press coverage.

The fit has to be right for his skillset to flourish early. His experience in Ohio State's option-heavy passing game makes him an ideal match for systems that emphasize timing and spatial awareness. Picture him working the intermediate areas in San Francisco's offense or Green Bay's - schemes where his sharp cuts and understanding of leverage will shine. However, he'll need development time to master the boundary techniques and physical aspects required for full-time outside duties.

His ceiling depends largely on how well he adapts to more physical coverage at the next level. The foundation is there - elite speed, technical prowess, and competitive mindset. But success will hinge on building play strength and expanding his route tree beyond his comfort zone in the slot. Give him time to develop these areas while utilizing his current strengths, and you're looking at a complete receiver who can stress defenses from any alignment.

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS
Rare combination of elite long speed and technical route-running acumen, regularly stressing defensive leverage at all three levels of the field.
Natural hands-catcher who extends away from his frame and shows exceptional ball tracking ability on vertical routes.
Savvy route technician who varies tempo and uses subtle head/shoulder fakes to manipulate defensive backs' positioning.
Sharp cuts at the top of routes with minimal telegraphing, consistently creating separation through precise footwork.
Advanced feel against zone coverage, showing innate ability to find soft spots and present clear throwing windows.
Electric after the catch, combining track speed with vision and instincts honed in the return game.
Runs with competitive toughness, showing willingness to work through traffic and take hits to secure catches.
Immediate special teams contributor with proven production as both punt and kick returner.
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What the heck does this mean?

“…though he'll need to expand his release package against NFL press coverage.”
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Betsy wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:14 pm
Snake wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:37 pm As an OSU alum,
I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. CANES!!! :twisted:
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Babeinbucland wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:47 pm What the heck does this mean?

“…though he'll need to expand his release package against NFL press coverage.”
What the WR does upon the snap of the ball to get around his assigned defender at the line of scrimmage.

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Betsy wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:14 pm
Snake wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:37 pm As an OSU alum,
I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. CANES!!! :twisted:
Same.... Pass interference my ass


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Betsy wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:14 pm
Snake wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:37 pm As an OSU alum,
I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. CANES!!! :twisted:
Same.... Pass interference my ass


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Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:49 pm
Babeinbucland wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:47 pm What the heck does this mean?

“…though he'll need to expand his release package against NFL press coverage.”
What the WR does upon the snap of the ball to get around his assigned defender at the line of scrimmage.

Thank you. I thought it had something to do with…well… the NFL press/media lol
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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:07 pm I absolutely love Barron and he would've been my pick.

I'm figuring that he either got himself removed from our board for not being a "Buccaneer Man" for reason we don't know.... or more likely I think it's a combination of Egbuka simply putting himself in a higher BPA tier on OBP board, maybe, yes, with his stellar character.

I think another influence could be maybe OBP either didn't rate Barron and Johnson as high as the rest of us (or more likely) they don't have a big gap between them and the next crop. If Revel and Morrison had had fully healthy seasons they could've easily played themselves to the top of the CB rankings. Maybe they really like Amos. I really like Zy and Cobee.

As compared to the Egbuka gap, which they see is huge between him others.
I am speculating with Barron but I think a deciding factor to split other prospects and Barron for teams could've been his age. He will be 24 years old early into his rookie year. Very good player though, agree.
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Babeinbucland wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:46 pm
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Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:52 am Jason said they didn’t meet with Emeka because they didn’t have any concerns or questions. Something to keep in mind going forward.
They met with him at the combine, but they did not have him in for top 30 visit. Bringing him in might have tipped their hand, tbh.
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I need that shirt. Might have run it through the wrinkle free in the dryer or something first though to get that “just out of the bag” look rectified.
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I'm a big fan of the pick, and not just because I'm an OSU homer (clear PI or defensive holding, btw).

Egbuka was always there for Will Howard. Even when he had a bunch of other studs to throw to, Howard looked for Egbuka on third down. And plenty of times when the 'big guys' weren't available to play, Egbuka just continued to get open and catch the football.

Think about this... he played with Marvin Harrison Jr. for 2 seasons and still racked up over 100 catches. He played last season with Jeremiah Smith who is going top 5, maybe number 1, when he comes out and led the team with 81 catches. He's a stud who doesn't mind competition, and he's going to compete for snaps from day 1. There really aren't many guys in this draft that we could say that about, and we got him at 19.

I think he's got 100-reception potential, and I love the way he pairs with McMillan as a polished guy to give opposing DBs fits when McMillan stretches the field and Egbuka exploits the space. Comfortable with them being a dynamic duo for a half dozen seasons.
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Snake wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:27 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:12 pm

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Babeinbucland wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:12 pm
Well, this answers the question. The G is silent. :D
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