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Rocker · Post by **Rocker** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:21 am

Yessir!

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:23 am

Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:16 am
Rocker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:34 am
When their RB went down for the year in preseason. It was all over Twitter.
Is it this?

This is what makes Harbaugh such a great head coach. He's letting his pure emotions out about this injury and while his player are telling him, hey its football it would've happened regardless, instead of being the authoritarian and saying "No, I'm right, you're wrong" he's listening and understanding. That's leadership. Not having all of the answers, but listening to the men you're leading sometimes. Them knowing how upset that made him makes them want to fight harder. Harbaugh gets it.

AJPG · Post by **AJPG** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:37 pm

Rocker wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:02 pm
Snake wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:30 am Isn’t Richard Sherman dealing with alcoholism and family issues?
Pretty sure he's got court cases pending as well.

So does Frank Clark (facing 2 felony weapons charges) yet he was out there last night.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:22 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:31 pm If there was any doubt as to how the Ravens feel about Lamar Jackson, Harbaugh asked him if he wanted to go for it. You don't do that with a guy who you don't see as your QB.

I don't see it that way. If you feel great about your QB, why would you even need to ask him in the first place?

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:26 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:22 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:31 pm If there was any doubt as to how the Ravens feel about Lamar Jackson, Harbaugh asked him if he wanted to go for it. You don't do that with a guy who you don't see as your QB.
I don't see it that way. If you feel great about your QB, why would you even need to ask him in the first place?

Because you're still the head coach and you still have to make decisions. Harbaugh still has a job to do. He's not just along for the ride

Caradoc · Post by **Caradoc** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:31 pm

Rocker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:05 am
Caradoc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:57 am

Well if it happened on twitter then everyone must know what you're talking about
Love it or hate it, but it’s the best place for up to date sports coverage.

That doesn't mean everyone has heard about it though, twitter isn't as popular as it's regular users think.

BJJ34 · Post by **BJJ34** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:37 pm

Caradoc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:31 pm
Rocker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:05 am
Love it or hate it, but it’s the best place for up to date sports coverage.
That doesn't mean everyone has heard about it though, twitter isn't as popular as it's regular users think.

Twitter is how Sports Journalists make a living in 2021. Has been for the last 10 years or so. The Athletic is a good example of that.

Twitter is definitely the best place for News on the web. Reddit is a close second but it's predominantly left-leaning.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:58 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:26 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:22 pm

I don't see it that way. If you feel great about your QB, why would you even need to ask him in the first place?
Because you're still the head coach and you still have to make decisions. Harbaugh still has a job to do. He's not just along for the ride

Which is why he doesn't need to ask his QB about going for it. He just does it. On the field, Harbaugh is the boss.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:01 pm

Skyrimownsall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:34 pm greg romans offense is limited and doesnt use lamar jackson to the best of his ability, when he gets out schemed in the playoffs as usual, watch at how the media destroys lamar

OR, maybe Greg Roman knows Jackson's limitations and does everything he can to put him in the best situation. Then, when the playoffs come, the opponent knows Jackson's limitations too, and exploits them.

Primeminister · Post by **Primeminister** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:03 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:58 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:26 pm

Because you're still the head coach and you still have to make decisions. Harbaugh still has a job to do. He's not just along for the ride
Which is why he doesn't need to ask his QB about going for it. He just does it. On the field, Harbaugh is the boss.

Or Harbaugh asks his QB because his QB is the leader on the field. It’s okay to be wrong here.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:06 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:58 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:26 pm

Because you're still the head coach and you still have to make decisions. Harbaugh still has a job to do. He's not just along for the ride
Which is why he doesn't need to ask his QB about going for it. He just does it. On the field, Harbaugh is the boss.

All Head Coaches are. You must not know how this league works. You think they pay these guys millions just to sit there? It's about having accountability. Harbaugh would be a bad head coach if he didn't ask his players for insight. His players would have no reason to follow or respect him if he didn't ask. They can just do whatever they want.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:08 pm

The only thing Lamar Jackson has been "limited" is the amount of games he's lost as a pro.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:13 pm

Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:03 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:58 pm

Which is why he doesn't need to ask his QB about going for it. He just does it. On the field, Harbaugh is the boss.
Or Harbaugh asks his QB because his QB is the leader on the field. It’s okay to be wrong here.

No, a coach TELLS his QB what that they're going for it, he doesn't ASK him if he wants to go for it. Now, he may ask him what play he wants to run, certainly... but he's not going to ask him if he wants to go for it.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:15 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:06 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:58 pm

Which is why he doesn't need to ask his QB about going for it. He just does it. On the field, Harbaugh is the boss.
All Head Coaches are. You must not know how this league works. You think they pay these guys millions just to sit there? It's about having accountability. Harbaugh would be a bad head coach if he didn't ask his players for insight. His players would have no reason to follow or respect him if he didn't ask. They can just do whatever they want.

GTFOH with that crap. If Harbaugh wants to go for it on 4th down, he's going for it. He's not asking his QB if he should or shouldn't. Could he ask for his input on which play? Certainly, but not whether they're going for it or not. To think otherwise is just incompetence.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:17 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:08 pm The only thing Lamar Jackson has been "limited" is the amount of games he's lost as a pro.

...and his passing ability.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:19 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:15 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:06 pm

All Head Coaches are. You must not know how this league works. You think they pay these guys millions just to sit there? It's about having accountability. Harbaugh would be a bad head coach if he didn't ask his players for insight. His players would have no reason to follow or respect him if he didn't ask. They can just do whatever they want.
GTFOH with that crap. If Harbaugh wants to go for it on 4th down, he's going for it. He's not asking his QB if he should or shouldn't. Could he ask for his input on which play? Certainly, but not whether they're going for it or not. To think otherwise is just incompetence.

How is it incompetence when we saw it play out that way last night? Unless you're calling Lamar Jackson a liar, Jim Harbaugh did in fact ask him if he wanted to go for it on 4th down.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:25 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:19 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:15 pm

GTFOH with that crap. If Harbaugh wants to go for it on 4th down, he's going for it. He's not asking his QB if he should or shouldn't. Could he ask for his input on which play? Certainly, but not whether they're going for it or not. To think otherwise is just incompetence.
How is it incompetence when we saw it play out that way last night? Unless you're calling Lamar Jackson a liar, Jim Harbaugh did in fact ask him if he wanted to go for it on 4th down.

If Lamar said "Coach Harbaugh asked me if I wanted to go for it" with the intent behind the question being that had Lamar said no, they would have punted... then yes, Lamar is lying. Harbaugh is a great coach, he's not asking Jackson for permission to go for it. Now, if Lamar said, "Coach Harbaugh asked me if I wanted to carry the ball", then yes, I believe him 100%. As I said, asking the player for his opinion on WHAT play to run, makes all the sense in the world. BUT, asking him if they should go for it? No, that didn't happen. Not the way you implied it in your initial post anyway.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:27 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:25 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:19 pm

How is it incompetence when we saw it play out that way last night? Unless you're calling Lamar Jackson a liar, Jim Harbaugh did in fact ask him if he wanted to go for it on 4th down.
If Lamar said "Coach Harbaugh asked me if I wanted to go for it" with the intent behind the question being that had Lamar said no, they would have punted... then yes, Lamar is lying. Harbaugh is a great coach, he's not asking Jackson for permission to go for it. Now, if Lamar said, "Coach Harbaugh asked me if I wanted to carry the ball", then yes, I believe him 100%. As I said, asking the player for his opinion on WHAT play to run, makes all the sense in the world. BUT, asking him if they should go for it? No, that didn't happen. Not the way you implied it in your initial post anyway.

Okay, so your 1st scenario is exactly what happened. And you're saying Lamar is lying. Great! I'm eager to see your proof that he lied. Go!

vivalaReagan · Post by **vivalaReagan** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:28 pm

Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:16 am
Rocker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:34 am
When their RB went down for the year in preseason. It was all over Twitter.
Is it this?

this was awesome to watch; thanks for posting. the honesty, trust, and rapport between coach and player was cool to watch.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:30 pm

BTW here is Harbaugh asking Lamar if he wants to go for it, @CannonFire. So good luck showing us that he's lying.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:34 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:30 pm BTW here is Harbaugh asking Lamar if he wants to go for it, @CannonFire. So good luck showing us that he's lying.

OMG, GTHFO with that. He's not asking Jackson for permission. It's about being pumped up. Do you really think that Jackson says "No" right there? Do you honestly think that any real QB would say, "No, let's punt"? Go away this nonsense.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:35 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:34 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:30 pm BTW here is Harbaugh asking Lamar if he wants to go for it, @CannonFire. So good luck showing us that he's lying.

OMG, GTHFO with that. He's not asking Jackson for permission. It's about being pumped up. Do you really think that Jackson says "No" right there? Do you honestly think that any real QB would say, "No, let's punt"? Go away this nonsense.

Again, show us the proof.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:38 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:35 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:34 pm

OMG, GTHFO with that. He's not asking Jackson for permission. It's about being pumped up. Do you really think that Jackson says "No" right there? Do you honestly think that any real QB would say, "No, let's punt"? Go away this nonsense.
Again, show us the proof.

Stop. You're wrong.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:40 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:38 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:35 pm

Again, show us the proof.
Stop. You're wrong.

The embedded video says I'm not.

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:41 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:40 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:38 pm

Stop. You're wrong.
The embedded video says I'm not.

You misunderstanding what's happening, says you're wrong.

King Bootz · Post by **King Bootz** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:42 pm

CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:41 pm
King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:40 pm

The embedded video says I'm not.
You misunderstanding what's happening, says you're wrong.

Waiting for the proof...

CannonFire · Post by **CannonFire** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:50 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:42 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:41 pm

You misunderstanding what's happening, says you're wrong.
Waiting for the proof...

Harbaugh knew the answer before asking the question. Proof? Harbaugh is a great coach and he knows what he's doing. Period.

vivalaReagan · Post by **vivalaReagan** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:40 pm

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:42 pm
CannonFire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:41 pm

You misunderstanding what's happening, says you're wrong.
Waiting for the proof...

bootsie waiting for proof on something so obvious is rich considering he runs from requests to provide proof of his bullshit.

King Bootz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:39 pm
vivalaReagan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:36 pm
this is a perfect example of why your posts and your perspective suck so badly. you do not possess the ability to read for comprehension without inserting your own bias. the term for this is eisegesis and it’s debilitating. if i had to point to one thing that causes many on this board to dislike you so much, it’s this.

case in point: one guy has claimed racism ad nauseam; on this we agree. however, the “other side” never stated that “racism isn't in the NFL.” it was your bias that inserted this notion, but it doesn’t exist in this thread. if you disagree, please post a link to where this was stated by anyone.
I don't think I asked for your perspective or opinion here. You can shove this up your ass. I have no interest in reading anymore lies from you today, kiddo .

#BuczoneBootsieWasBetter
#HeJustNeedsMoreTime
#HeJustNeedsSomeHelp
#HeLedTheTeamInRushing

BJJ34 · Post by **BJJ34** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:57 pm

Guys ignore bootz…

We have RedZoneRobbieG on the team and he has 4 TDs so far.

Primeminister · Post by **Primeminister** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:49 pm

I’m just checking in. Anyone watching the Packers game? How does Rogers only have 75 yards passing to start the 4th?

uscbucsfan · Post by **uscbucsfan** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:50 pm

Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:49 pm I’m just checking in. Anyone watching the Packers game? How does Rogers only have 75 yards passing to start the 4th?

They've been running and the 3rd just started.

Primeminister · Post by **Primeminister** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:51 pm

uscbucsfan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:50 pm
Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:49 pm I’m just checking in. Anyone watching the Packers game? How does Rogers only have 75 yards passing to start the 4th?
They've been running and the 3rd just started.

Ugh I meant to type 3rd Q. I saw he had 2 TD, but the low yardage was a weird stat line to see.

Primeminister · Post by **Primeminister** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:52 pm

uscbucsfan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:50 pm
Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:49 pm I’m just checking in. Anyone watching the Packers game? How does Rogers only have 75 yards passing to start the 4th?
They've been running and the 3rd just started.

Have the Lions been playing good defense as well?

Rocker · Post by **Rocker** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:53 pm

Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:51 pm
uscbucsfan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:50 pm

They've been running and the 3rd just started.
Ugh I meant to type 3rd Q. I saw he had 2 TD, but the low yardage was a weird stat line to see.

Low melanin Jameis Winston wannabe.

uscbucsfan · Post by **uscbucsfan** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:54 pm

Primeminister wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:52 pm
uscbucsfan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:50 pm

They've been running and the 3rd just started.
Have the Lions been playing good defense as well?

They've had the ball a lot. It's on the background. He's like 11 for 13 and has been sacked twice.

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