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Phantom wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:43 pm
Buc2 wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:18 am

You are correct. No one in here knows shit. But it's very likely that someone will accidentally be right and they'll be in here crowing about how offseason football smart they are. lol
You don’t know shit, skipper
I'm pretty sure that point was already established. :lol:
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Have to love the spat being over Trent Dilfer.
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Awesome!! Please change the Washington moniker…
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Right before he does he offers Lamar $300M guaranteed.
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Doctor wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:21 pm Right before he does he offers Lamar $300M guaranteed.
This would be a friggin' Jedi level troll.
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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:30 am
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The Browns officially announced the signing of veteran receiver Marquise Goodwin on Friday.

The deal was originally reported as complete on March 24. That came at the end of a week that started with Goodwin spending two days visiting with the team, but departing without a deal.
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Buc2 wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:21 pm The Browns officially announced the signing of veteran receiver Marquise Goodwin on Friday.

The deal was originally reported as complete on March 24. That came at the end of a week that started with Goodwin spending two days visiting with the team, but departing without a deal.
They've built a very interesting group of receivers there to work with Watson:

- Amari Cooper, the dictionary definition of "I'm thrilled he's my #2, but I'm looking to upgrade if he's my #1."
- David Bell, a good route runner with great hands who isn't that explosive, but could be useful underneath.
- Jakeem Grant, a blur of midget of a blur.
- Elijah Moore, who if he's over his tantrum, has the chops to be an elite slot weapon.
- Donovan Peoples Jones, who has produced when called upon.
- Anthony Schwartz, who has elite deep speed but may or may not figure out how to use it.

And now Goodwin, another speed merchant who has been productive in the league.

They obviously need someone to step up. Preferably for them someone who can play outside opposite Cooper. But there's potential there.

I would not be shocked if they tried to package the picks they have left (their first pick is #74) to move up for a wideout they love who falls a bit.
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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:30 am
How many people did he apologize to in his retirement speech?
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Doctor wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:50 pm Stop. No one knows shit.

Also a second 2023 2nd > 2024 first. Especially since there will probably be like 15 drafts spot difference.
There are plenty of Buc fans who grew up on a farm or a ranch who cleaned out the stalls. Those fans know their shit!
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Hurts:

5 yr, 255m, 180m guaranteed
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Told y'all Hurts was next in line.
Smart on the Eagles to not wait. QB prices only go on one direction.
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What a difference a year makes. He looked lost against us in the 2021 playoffs.
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Grahamburn wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:01 pm What a difference a year makes. He looked lost against us in the 2021 playoffs.
Yes, it's crazy that an NFL player actually improved.

Burrow is next in line to get paid. Let's hope Mike Brown isn't still a cheap ass.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:04 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:01 pm What a difference a year makes. He looked lost against us in the 2021 playoffs.
Yes, it's crazy that an NFL player actually improved.

Burrow is next in line to get paid. Let's hope Mike Brown isn't still a cheap ass.
Did I say it was crazy that he improved? Whole lot of people around here acting like Baker can't play better or get back to his 2020 levels at minimum though.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:04 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:01 pm What a difference a year makes. He looked lost against us in the 2021 playoffs.
Yes, it's crazy that an NFL player actually improved.

Burrow is next in line to get paid. Let's hope Mike Brown isn't still a cheap ass.
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Watching Trask in his press conference today, he certainly doesn't have much personality. Dude has all of the charisma of a cantaloupe.
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Great move by Hurts.

But we literally are piling on Lamar for "one good year"... We've seen guys like Cam and Ryan go off for a year and that be their peak too.

Not predicting that for Hurts but the NFL has a way of punching back. Fantastic job grabbing his bag now. Lamar should take notes.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:17 pm Great move by Hurts.

But we literally are piling on Lamar for "one good year"...
Who's dumb enough to make this point? If Lamar Jackson has only had 1 good year then guys like Herbert, Tua, Murray, Allen, haven't had any.
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Bootz wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:20 am
Doctor wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:17 pm Great move by Hurts.

But we literally are piling on Lamar for "one good year"...
Who's dumb enough to make this point? If Lamar Jackson has only had 1 good year then guys like Herbert, Tua, Murray, Allen, haven't had any.
Why are you so hot and heavy for Lamar Jackson? He's good, but certainly not great. Regardless of anyone's opinion about him, including mine, our thoughts don't amount to a hill of beans. So, you have no need to defend him so vehemently every time someone in here says something even slightly uncomplimentary about him. Just asking so don't go all Bootz on me because I won't respond to that.
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acmillis wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:56 pm
Bootz wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:04 pm

Yes, it's crazy that an NFL player actually improved.

Burrow is next in line to get paid. Let's hope Mike Brown isn't still a cheap ass.
As I said in another thread...

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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:46 pm Trask was a great fit and prospect for the Arians offense. We're no longer running that.
You need to adapt to the changing landscape. He'll have every chance to show his new value in this new regime. But it's stupid to hold the future hostage to the past just to "justify a pick".

The goal should be to find the right QB for this regime, not save face or appease value and hindsight draft groupies.
Trask is more mobile than people think, but not exactly Canales style mobile. But maybe. He'll have every chance to win the job. If he goes 11/13 199 yards and a TD to Bakers 5/9, I don't think we're going to force things where they shouldn't go.

But on the surface, the offense does seem to lend itself more for to the talents and skillsets that made Baker a top pick. Talent wise I don't think it's hard to argue Baker.

It's going to come down to processing and mastering the offense. We could still draft a guy too. Hooker in the second, sitting a year behind Baker in a Canales offense could be something. There are a lot of stones to overturn here.
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Buc2 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:40 am
Bootz wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:20 am

Who's dumb enough to make this point? If Lamar Jackson has only had 1 good year then guys like Herbert, Tua, Murray, Allen, haven't had any.
Why are you so hot and heavy for Lamar Jackson? He's good, but certainly not great. Regardless of anyone's opinion about him, including mine, our thoughts don't amount to a hill of beans. So, you have no need to defend him so vehemently every time someone in here says something even slightly uncomplimentary about him. Just asking so don't go all Bootz on me because I won't respond to that.
Because he is great, despite your opinion here. This had more to do though with this fictional story that he's only had 1 good year.
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Doctor wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:40 am
acmillis wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:56 pm

As I said in another thread...

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Doctor wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:46 pm Trask was a great fit and prospect for the Arians offense. We're no longer running that.
You need to adapt to the changing landscape. He'll have every chance to show his new value in this new regime. But it's stupid to hold the future hostage to the past just to "justify a pick".

The goal should be to find the right QB for this regime, not save face or appease value and hindsight draft groupies.
Trask is more mobile than people think, but not exactly Canales style mobile. But maybe. He'll have every chance to win the job. If he goes 11/13 199 yards and a TD to Bakers 5/9, I don't think we're going to force things where they shouldn't go.

But on the surface, the offense does seem to lend itself more for to the talents and skillsets that made Baker a top pick. Talent wise I don't think it's hard to argue Baker.

It's going to come down to processing and mastering the offense. We could still draft a guy too. Hooker in the second, sitting a year behind Baker in a Canales offense could be something. There are a lot of stones to overturn here.
Drafting a 2nd round QB to ride the bench is a waste of a pick, haven't you heard?
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Trask has a relative athletic score in the bottom half of all QBs graded from 1987-2021. It was much better than Brady, though, so maybe he has elite pocket movement like TB.
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Naismith wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:05 pm It was much better than Brady, though, so maybe he has elite pocket movement like TB.
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Sorry it’s not the Buccaneers
The 49ers have received trade inquiries for QB Trey Lance, per @nflnetwork.

A trade isn’t considered imminent, but there are several teams interested in acquiring Lance.
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I mean yeah, 6th round pick isn’t a bad investment on a physically talented young QB who is smelling like a bust and doesn’t have a clear path to starting. Most 6ths don’t amount to shit anyways.

But, 49ers eat a decent chunk of cap by trading him though. Not crazy high, but enough to make it a consideration.
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The QB position is such a wild shot. It's amazing to think that just two years ago so many GMs and FOs, including one we widely consider one of the smartest, were all in on Lance. Or all in on some other bust QB they didn't get a chance to draft, so they lived to draft another day. The same guy that draft Baker Mayfield drafted Patrick Mahomes. 
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I would happily trade a second rounder for Lance. I don't think that would get it done but it would be a cheap gamble.
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Naismith wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:33 pm I would happily trade a second rounder for Lance. I don't think that would get it done but it would be a cheap gamble.
Throw in D-White. I know the 49ers have zero needs there, but I can't help but think John Lynch would love to add a talent like that cheap. He could probably just use him as a nickel blitzer.
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MJW wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:48 pm
Naismith wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:33 pm I would happily trade a second rounder for Lance. I don't think that would get it done but it would be a cheap gamble.
Throw in D-White. I know the 49ers have zero needs there, but I can't help but think John Lynch would love to add a talent like that cheap. He could probably just use him as a nickel blitzer.
Considering the investment they made if the 49ers are trying to trade him why would we want him? If they're trading him for pennies on the dollar clearly they have realized they've made a big mistake and are trying to salvage something. Would be dumb of us to oblige.
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