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Might be just the kickoff change.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:35 am
Al Bundy wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:10 am Well.. Deven Thompkins may have been a bad guy.
To what are you referring? I don’t see any news. Thought it was odd they’d release him though, so makes sense there may have been more to the story.
Look him up on X. His soon to be ex-wife made a pretty damning tik tok about alleged abuse.
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That's a career death sentence for a WR6.
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With what money? Even with cap tricks, that’s a tough one to envision.
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Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:49 pm With what money? Even with cap tricks, that’s a tough one to envision.
It's actually possible from our perspective.
His base is only $8mil this year. If he gets traded any prorated portion (signing bonuses, restructures, etc) are the responsibility of the team trading him.

If we acquired him, we could take him $8mil vase, that's all we'd be responsible for, and restructure it. Give him $6mil now, treat it like a signing bonus, slap on a voided year in 2026 and have him under contract for the next 2 seasons.
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VOID it up Bootzy
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Phantom wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:49 pm Cannon will be pleased to see this

They said the same thing last year.
What, we're at the "Oh look, we're so disrespected" time of year? :lol:
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Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:01 pmVOID it up Bootzy
My bad, corrected.

I'd do it. I think we've done the bare minimum in addressing our EDGE position and Bosa even at this stage of his career is better than what we have.

That said, from the Chargers perspective though it would make zero sense. They've already paid him a $7mil signing bonus when they re did his deal earlier this year. They'd be eating a out $30mil in dead money over the next 2 seasons while saving just $8mil
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I’d do it too, now that you’ve proven it’s possible. I’m curious what the draft capital would be in return.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:00 pm
Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:49 pm With what money? Even with cap tricks, that’s a tough one to envision.
It's actually possible from our perspective.
His base is only $8mil this year. If he gets traded any prorated portion (signing bonuses, restructures, etc) are the responsibility of the team trading him.

If we acquired him, we could take him $8mil vase, that's all we'd be responsible for, and restructure it. Give him $6mil now, treat it like a signing bonus, slap on a voided year in 2026 and have him under contract for the next 2 seasons.
He's under contract for 2025 as well ($13M base and $12M roster bonus), that we'd be on the hook for. Works for me... I'd just wait until after the season and give him an extension. Give him a 3-yr extension worth $20M AAV and turn that $13M into out over 4 years and he'll only cost us $15M and change next year.

What's the compensation though?
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My Charger friends are ready to move on from Bosa due to injury concerns.
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Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:16 pm I’d do it too, now that you’ve proven it’s possible. I’m curious what the draft capital would be in return.
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2025 conditional 3rd that could become a 2nd if certain criteria is met. Namely playing time because he's injury prone
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Godwin for Bosa?
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:32 pm
Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:16 pm I’d do it too, now that you’ve proven it’s possible. I’m curious what the draft capital would be in return.
@CannonFire
2025 conditional 3rd that could become a 2nd if certain criteria is met. Namely playing time because he's injury prone
That's fair. Let's get it done.
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Sdbucs wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:35 pm Godwin for Bosa?
Creative, but no.

You’re an Evans injury away from starting McMillan and Palmer. Godwin may be on the backslide. He’s still a proven commodity.
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Sdbucs wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:35 pm Godwin for Bosa?
Because Godwin needs a new deal, I'd think the Chargers would want that worked out prior to the trade. Otherwise, Godwin's value is nominal. I think what @Bootz noted as compensation, Godwin would be considered a throw in. At the cost of a 3, possible 2, Godwin doesn't drop the price if he's going over as a 1-yr rental.
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Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:38 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:35 pm Godwin for Bosa?
Creative, but no.

You’re an Evans injury away from starting McMillan and Palmer. Godwin may be on the backslide. He’s still a proven commodity.
Apparently these guys are all free agents. Trade Godwin for Bosa and sign a name off this list. IDK, doesn't seem too crazy...

Michael Thomas
Hunter Renfrow
Mecole Hardman
Corey Davis
Julio Jones
Russell Gage
Randall Cobb
Sterling Shepard

Makes sense to me b/c Chargers need WR, we need DE, and both Bosa/Godwin have similar value.

Down for Bosa though irrespective of Godwin
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I see eight variants of toast.

If we had Mahomes, I would agree with you.
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Sdbucs wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:42 pm
Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:38 pm

Creative, but no.

You’re an Evans injury away from starting McMillan and Palmer. Godwin may be on the backslide. He’s still a proven commodity.
Apparently these guys are all free agents. Trade Godwin for Bosa and sign a name off this list. IDK, doesn't seem too crazy...

Michael Thomas
Hunter Renfrow
Mecole Hardman
Corey Davis
Julio Jones
Russell Gage
Randall Cobb
Sterling Shepard

Makes sense to me b/c Chargers need WR, we need DE, and both Bosa/Godwin have similar value.

Down for Bosa though irrespective of Godwin
We don't have the WR depth to make that deal.
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Sdbucs wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:42 pm
Snake wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:38 pm

Creative, but no.

You’re an Evans injury away from starting McMillan and Palmer. Godwin may be on the backslide. He’s still a proven commodity.
Apparently these guys are all free agents. Trade Godwin for Bosa and sign a name off this list. IDK, doesn't seem too crazy...

Michael Thomas
Hunter Renfrow
Mecole Hardman
Corey Davis
Julio Jones
Russell Gage
Randall Cobb
Sterling Shepard

Makes sense to me b/c Chargers need WR, we need DE, and both Bosa/Godwin have similar value.

Down for Bosa though irrespective of Godwin
How many games has BOSA played in the last two seasons. (14)
How many games has Godwin played in the last two seasons. (32)

I am not down with that trade.
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13F11B wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:45 pm
Sdbucs wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:42 pm

Apparently these guys are all free agents. Trade Godwin for Bosa and sign a name off this list. IDK, doesn't seem too crazy...

Michael Thomas
Hunter Renfrow
Mecole Hardman
Corey Davis
Julio Jones
Russell Gage
Randall Cobb
Sterling Shepard

Makes sense to me b/c Chargers need WR, we need DE, and both Bosa/Godwin have similar value.

Down for Bosa though irrespective of Godwin
How many games has BOSA played in the last two seasons. (14)
How many games as Godwin played in the last two seasons. (32)

I am not down with that trade.
Totally fair point. I take it back.
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Bosa is a fun name, but you don't get much of a player with him anymore. Trade for Reddick. At least he has some real production the last couple years.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:55 pm Bosa is a fun name, but you don't get much of a player with him anymore. Trade for Reddick. At least he has some real production the last couple years.
Reddick was traded to the Jets for the exact same conditional 3rd I proposed for Bosa.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:19 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:55 pm Bosa is a fun name, but you don't get much of a player with him anymore. Trade for Reddick. At least he has some real production the last couple years.
Reddick was traded to the Jets for the exact same conditional 3rd I proposed for Bosa.
Give the Jets a 2 and sign him to the contract he wants.
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I would rather have Mack, even at his advanced age, he still a force.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:40 pm
Bootz wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:19 pm

Reddick was traded to the Jets for the exact same conditional 3rd I proposed for Bosa.
Give the Jets a 2 and sign him to the contract he wants.
Lol cute
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Bootz wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:47 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:40 pm

Give the Jets a 2 and sign him to the contract he wants.
Lol cute
And I'll shamelessly admit I somehow missed that he had already been traded to the Jets.
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One of those 8 variants of toast @Snake was talking about. He's also been injured a ton the past few years. 35 total games played since 2021 and a torn ACL 2 seasons ago. Also hasn't been a consistent starter for the Giants since 2020. Might not even make it out of camp.


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Glad we could Russel up another Shepard. Last one swore too much.
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Wirfs will not be at mandatory mini camp on Tuesday without a new deal
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Bootz wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:41 pm Wirfs will not be at mandatory mini camp on Tuesday without a new deal
I'd love to be as premature with Jenna Laine as she is with us.
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Grahamburn wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:32 pm
Bootz wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:41 pm Wirfs will not be at mandatory mini camp on Tuesday without a new deal
I'd love to be as premature with Jenna Laine as she is with us.
Correction, I should've been clearer. He won't be participating without a new deal but he will be there in attendance to avoid the fines.
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