2022 Offseason Thread

[Phantom]

Samuel, Evans, Godwin and Gage? Sign me up!


Yeah it’ll never happen

[King Bootz]

So Deebo reportedly doesn't want to play the "wide back" role that makes him special in the 1st place. He's also the one who bragged about playing the role and is basically looking to get paid based off the production he accumulated in that role. You can't make this up.

[Nano]

Early leak, but it appears that our Munich game will be on November 13th. That lines up to week 10, so our bye is likely week 11.

[Doctor]

Hill and Deebo could not be more different.

I don't know what kind of offer Lynch has on the table, so I can't judge is Deebo is being "smart" or not exactly. But I will say holding out for a big deal or a possible trade into a big deal is the smart play. He's on a contract year and even in a best-case scenario where he stays healthy and repeats his production, he's likely looking at the Franchise Tag. Maybe even two. And that's not to mention the downside of possibly playing on a contract/FT year.

He has a lot to gain and little to lose by playing hardball and seeing if the 9ers can offer him that big deal or trade him to it. If he doesn't do it this year he'll have to face this same choice again next year. Maybe something comes of it, maybe not. I think the MOST likely scenario is the classic middle ground, say a 3 year $60M deal.

[King Bootz]

Here's the thing: By saying he's not playing the "wideback" role anymore, it's basically a guarantee that he won't repeat his production. Deebo quite literally has more rushing TDs than he does receiving TDs. Any team trading for him is paying a high premium in terms of picks and money for the hope that he's a better receiver than he has been over the course of his career. He's not a bad receiver. But it's the value he added as a running back that made him special.

[These Are The Days]

The guy wants to get paid for the special thing he did while not doing it anymore and wants to leave the team that would've likely paid him well to keep doing it.

God bless Deebo

[Doctor]

So Deebo reportedly doesn't want to play the "wide back" role that makes him special in the 1st place. He's also the one who bragged about playing the role and is basically looking to get paid based off the production he accumulated in that role. You can't make this up.

Source?

[IronDog]

So Deebo reportedly doesn't want to play the "wide back" role that makes him special in the 1st place. He's also the one who bragged about playing the role and is basically looking to get paid based off the production he accumulated in that role. You can't make this up.

Source?

No, no, no NO!!! You twit, you did it wrong. How long have you been here anyway. It's supposed to be thus:

Link?

[King Bootz]

So Deebo reportedly doesn't want to play the "wide back" role that makes him special in the 1st place. He's also the one who bragged about playing the role and is basically looking to get paid based off the production he accumulated in that role. You can't make this up.

Source?

[Dread]

Ward is certainly in that top/elite of NFL CBs imo. He's also likely the youngest CB in that group.

He's an elite player who plays a premium position. Paying him is a no-brainer imo.

The fact that you qualified "top/elite" is a bit telling, but maybe that's just because it's how I see it. Top corner? Yes. Worth the highest contract ever? Ummmmmmm....

Maybe it's just the ever-increasing nature of things, but he is not in the same category of game-changer as a guy like Deion. But good for him.

Ramsey signed for $19m and that was atleast a year ago.

We all know contract values only increase relative to cap.

I agree that being the highest paid doesn't make you the best, it just means you're likely the most recent to re-sign (while being one of the best).

[acmillis]

Hill and Deebo could not be more different.

I don't know what kind of offer Lynch has on the table, so I can't judge is Deebo is being "smart" or not exactly. But I will say holding out for a big deal or a possible trade into a big deal is the smart play. He's on a contract year and even in a best-case scenario where he stays healthy and repeats his production, he's likely looking at the Franchise Tag. Maybe even two. And that's not to mention the downside of possibly playing on a contract/FT year.

He has a lot to gain and little to lose by playing hardball and seeing if the 9ers can offer him that big deal or trade him to it. If he doesn't do it this year he'll have to face this same choice again next year. Maybe something comes of it, maybe not. I think the MOST likely scenario is the classic middle ground, say a 3 year $60M deal.

I thought 25m/year was the going rate for a #1 WR

[_MB_]

Early leak, but it appears that our Munich game will be on November 13th. That lines up to week 10, so our bye is likely week 11.

I'm okay with that. There's going to be a couple of mini-byes during the season and that spot is a good one to prepare for a playoff push.

[kaimaru]

800 yards receiving his rookie year isn't bad. He also was injured over half of 2020.

"Isn't bad" is not the attitude he's displaying now. He's acting as if he's been a great player with great production over the course of his career.

Ah, well I don't follow him so I didn't know that is the attitude his is projecting.

[MJW]

So Deebo reportedly doesn't want to play the "wide back" role that makes him special in the 1st place. He's also the one who bragged about playing the role and is basically looking to get paid based off the production he accumulated in that role. You can't make this up.

Weird timing, doing this while trying to get traded/paid.

[Phantom]

Apparently, Directv may be losing out to Apple for NFL Sunday Ticket beginning with the 2023 season.

Report: NFL Sunday Ticket ‘likely’ headed to new home
April 19, 2022 by Steve DelVecchio

DirecTV has had held the rights to the NFL’s Sunday Ticket package since it first launched in 1994, but that is set to change after next season. Sunday Ticket is expected to land with a streaming service in 2023, and a favorite has emerged.

According to Matthew Belloni of PUCK.news, the NFL may already have a deal in place with Apple for Sunday Ticket. Belloni described the Sunday Ticket package as being “Apple’s to lose” and said one source told him a deal is in place but that Apple wants to keep it quiet for now.

DirecTV’s most recent deal with the NFL was renewed in 2014. The satellite provider pays $1.5 billion annually for the package. The new price is expected to be in the $2.5 billion range.

At least one other tech juggernaut was said to be competing with Apple.

The NFL is clearly committed to partnering with streaming services, as evidenced by Amazon becoming the exclusive provider of “Thursday Night Football” beginning next season. Many fans are unhappy with the changes, as they will come with added costs and inconvenience for those who still use cable and satellite providers.

Great news, if it’s true..

[MJW]

Apparently, Directv may be losing out to Apple for NFL Sunday Ticket beginning with the 2023 season.

Great news, if it’s true..

Speaking as someone who as proudly never given Apple a nickel, why?

[13F11B]

Great news, if it’s true..

Speaking as someone who as proudly never given Apple a nickel, why?

If Apple is awarded NFL Ticket games I will likely be done watching the NFL. Apple is not a company I will support. It would be far better for a company like Netflix to be awarded the package. Even better would be the NFL figuring out how to do it themselves. I would hate to see a hardware motivated company given the package so it could be used as a weapon to get people to buy their hardware and force people to live in their eco system.

[13F11B]

Apparently, Directv may be losing out to Apple for NFL Sunday Ticket beginning with the 2023 season.

Great news, if it’s true..

Not really. Apple is involved in anything is bad news. The NFL with its big dollars should figure out how to stream it themselves and make it available via multiple hardware options.

[BJJ34]

Great news, if it’s true..

Not really. Apple is involved in anything is bad news. The NFL with its big dollars should figure out how to stream it themselves and make it available via multiple hardware options.

Have you used Apple TV? It’s interface is easy.

[13F11B]

Not really. Apple is involved in anything is bad news. The NFL with its big dollars should figure out how to stream it themselves and make it available via multiple hardware options.

Have you used Apple TV? It’s interface is easy.

It is not about how easy it is. I do not support Apple. I find my Roku easy. I consider my computer streaming Amazon Prime easy. I do not need Apple. I do not want Apple.

[uscbucsfan]

Have you used Apple TV? It’s interface is easy.

It is not about how easy it is. I do not support Apple. I find my Roku easy. I consider my computer streaming Amazon Prime easy. I do not need Apple. I do not want Apple.

Apple TV is available on Fire Sticks and Roku (confirmed). If you don't want to use Apple, don't get Sunday Ticket...but this isn't about hardware.

[_MB_]

Speaking as someone who as proudly never given Apple a nickel, why?

If Apple is awarded NFL Ticket games I will likely be done watching the NFL.

I don't believe that for a fucking second.

[uscbucsfan]

If Apple is awarded NFL Ticket games I will likely be done watching the NFL.

I don't believe that for a fucking second.

From the biggest drama queen on the board?

No, probably full of shit. But we will certainly hear about it.

[King Bootz]

I don't believe that for a fucking second.

From the biggest drama queen on the board?

No, probably full of shit. But we will certainly hear about it.

We can only hope Apple gets what they want.

[King Bootz]

Great news, if it’s true..

Not really. Apple is involved in anything is bad news. The NFL with its big dollars should figure out how to stream it themselves and make it available via multiple hardware options.

Think about this: Why would they do that when networks are already paying them billions to stream their games?? Think about this more: Why would the NFL create yet another pay for service for it's consumers when they can stream their product on services consumers already pay for (Amazon Prime, Peacock, Paramount+, etc)?

WWE learned this the hard way and opted to sign a deal with Peacock to stream their events and content. It's smart business.

[Phantom]

It is not about how easy it is. I do not support Apple. I find my Roku easy. I consider my computer streaming Amazon Prime easy. I do not need Apple. I do not want Apple.

Apple TV is available on Fire Sticks and Roku (confirmed). If you don't want to use Apple, don't get Sunday Ticket...but this isn't about hardware.

Yeah it’ll probably be available on appletv+ streaming

[uscbucsfan]

Not really. Apple is involved in anything is bad news. The NFL with its big dollars should figure out how to stream it themselves and make it available via multiple hardware options.

Think about this: Why would they do that when networks are already paying them billions to stream their games?? Think about this more: Why would the NFL create yet another pay for service for it's consumers when they can stream their product on services consumers already pay for (Amazon Prime, Peacock, Paramount+, etc)?

WWE learned this the hard way and opted to sign a deal with Peacock to stream their events and content. It's smart business.

Right...it would make no sense to try to establish, build, and stream the games themselves when a company is willing to pay $2.5 billion per year to do it for them.

[kaimaru]

It is not about how easy it is. I do not support Apple. I find my Roku easy. I consider my computer streaming Amazon Prime easy. I do not need Apple. I do not want Apple.

Apple TV is available on Fire Sticks and Roku (confirmed). If you don't want to use Apple, don't get Sunday Ticket...but this isn't about hardware.

Also MLB on Apple+ can be streamed on Android devices from their website. I am sure it will be the same with Sunday Ticket.

[MJW]

Apple TV is available on Fire Sticks and Roku (confirmed). If you don't want to use Apple, don't get Sunday Ticket...but this isn't about hardware.

Also MLB on Apple+ can be streamed on Android devices from their website. I am sure it will be the same with Sunday Ticket.

As long as I can still watch off the App on my Firestick, I don't care much either way.

If I have to start purchasing/deal with Apple, I may go back to watching games at the bar.

[mdb1958]

Career low 27 tackles for Suh last year.

[mdb1958]

If a new guy was to get a sack it would be something Roches hasnt done for five years.

[mdb1958]

Might be able to bash more if they ever start playing.

[mdb1958]

LOL

[MJW]

Career low 27 tackles for Suh last year.

I don't read a ton into a stat like that for a guy like Suh in our scheme. But his play has steadily declined, no matter how you want to quantify it. It's tough to ignore if you re-watch the season and key on him.

I kind of wish we were considering a veteran alternative to bringing back Suh. I know it's not how we've been doing things lately. But we could do better than Suh in the same price range.

[MJW]

I'd love to give Eddie Goldman a look. He's still only 28 and he played in a similar system most of his career.