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Foreman signed a 1yr deal for $2mil. That has little to no impact on CMCs situation in Carolina.
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McCaffrey is wasting his career in Charlotte.
He's great, but he's not going to be the Bernie Sanders of that franchise.
He's great, but he's not going to be the Bernie Sanders of that franchise.
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Crazy thought but what are the odds we trade Donovan Smith? Don't we have an ass load of cap to cut by tomorrow? Wirfs goes to LT and we draft a guy?
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We can restructure a shit ton of guys.Swashbuckler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:33 pm Crazy thought but what are the odds we trade Donovan Smith? Don't we have an ass load of cap to cut by tomorrow? Wirfs goes to LT and we draft a guy?
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Can't see it happening, Tom likes Donny and I'll be damned if he hasn't played pretty damn good the last to seasons for Tom.Swashbuckler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:33 pm Crazy thought but what are the odds we trade Donovan Smith? Don't we have an ass load of cap to cut by tomorrow? Wirfs goes to LT and we draft a guy?
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More like Carolina has wasted money on him, the guy is never healthy.whistlepig777 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:27 pm McCaffrey is wasting his career in Charlotte.
He's great, but he's not going to be the Bernie Sanders of that franchise.
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Wait... whatwhistlepig777 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:27 pm McCaffrey is wasting his career in Charlotte.
He's great, but he's not going to be the Bernie Sanders of that franchise.
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Billionahs.Doctor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:36 pmWait... whatwhistlepig777 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:27 pm McCaffrey is wasting his career in Charlotte.
He's great, but he's not going to be the Bernie Sanders of that franchise.
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None. I still think Wirfs is destined to get moved over, but the fact we were able to extend D Smith on 2 years $31M is nuts. Especially with a QB like Brady (now back) on the roster, who can really minimize a lot of his short comings like a great QB does. We got two years of two really strong tackle play, you use that. If Wirfs doesn't get hurt we're back to back champs, I fully believe that.Swashbuckler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:33 pm Crazy thought but what are the odds we trade Donovan Smith? Don't we have an ass load of cap to cut by tomorrow? Wirfs goes to LT and we draft a guy?
You don't break up a window with a stellar OL. God if only Ali had stayed too, wow.
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Despite his struggles, I wouldn't want to jettison Donovan Smith if at all possible. Keeping Brady upright is job #1, and heading into the draft with only one tackle is a bad look. We'd be forced into drafting for obvious need.Swashbuckler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:33 pm Crazy thought but what are the odds we trade Donovan Smith? Don't we have an ass load of cap to cut by tomorrow? Wirfs goes to LT and we draft a guy?
I have no idea what's going to happen with the cap stuff though. We are going to have to do something to get under the cap, so we'll see what Licht cooks up.
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There's a lot of good OL in the 20-30 range in this draft. I'd love to pick a guy for depth and future take over, inside or out.
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With the moves we've made so far, the smart money is on a defensive lineman right now. We've addressed nearly everything else short term. And I think we're very much about the short term ATM.
I'd say we're definitely going to be open for business on a trade-down also. With only 5 picks, if we could turn #27 into an extra second and third, or something similar, I think we're going to be listening. Depth is the one thing you can't really fake.
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Big hole right now is at RB. Need to resign Fournette. If not, might have to start scouting running backs!
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Still want Barkley??real bucs fan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:10 am Big hole right now is at RB. Need to resign Fournette. If not, might have to start scouting running backs!
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Barkley would be a nice fit, gotta say!Phantom wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:13 amStill want Barkley??real bucs fan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:10 am Big hole right now is at RB. Need to resign Fournette. If not, might have to start scouting running backs!
But I think we want cheap. End of round 1 is a great place to target one.
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Other than the last game we played in which he looked like warmed-over ass.Heidguy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:13 pmCan't see it happening, Tom likes Donny and I'll be damned if he hasn't played pretty damn good the last to seasons for Tom.Swashbuckler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:33 pm Crazy thought but what are the odds we trade Donovan Smith? Don't we have an ass load of cap to cut by tomorrow? Wirfs goes to LT and we draft a guy?
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It was weird.Tnbandwagoner wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:56 amOther than the last game we played in which he looked like warmed-over ass.
Donovan Smith was a lumbering, slow-footed, lunging, holding sack of crap his whole career.
Then Tristan Wirfs came in, and the right side was sewn up, and Brady (and his legendary quick release) started cheating to his right, and Donovan Smith INSTANTLY became good at his job simply by being huge and fat and forcing pass rushers to go wide.
BUT THEN - TWIST! - Wirfs got hurt and Brady had to worry about pressure from his right, and all of a sudden he was getting terrorized from his left, while Donovan Smith lunged and contorted himself like a fat kid who got his backpack taken at recess.
It's WEIRD! We need Alex Jones to do an episode on this.
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Mysteries this deep unfortunately cannot be solved by us mere mortals.MJW wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:06 amIt was weird.Tnbandwagoner wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:56 am
Other than the last game we played in which he looked like warmed-over ass.
Donovan Smith was a lumbering, slow-footed, lunging, holding sack of crap his whole career.
Then Tristan Wirfs came in, and the right side was sewn up, and Brady (and his legendary quick release) started cheating to his right, and Donovan Smith INSTANTLY became good at his job simply by being huge and fat and forcing pass rushers to go wide.
BUT THEN - TWIST! - Wirfs got hurt and Brady had to worry about pressure from his right, and all of a sudden he was getting terrorized from his left, while Donovan Smith lunged and contorted himself like a fat kid who got his backpack taken at recess.
It's WEIRD! We need Alex Jones to do an episode on this.
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Just MB being MB.Doctor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:36 pmWait... whatwhistlepig777 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:27 pm McCaffrey is wasting his career in Charlotte.
He's great, but he's not going to be the Bernie Sanders of that franchise.
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Saints sign Safety Marcus Maye to a 3yr-$28.5M deal. So he'll replace Marcus Williams who signed a big money deal with the Ravens.
Honey Badger is the lone big name Safety out there. While BA and Bowles have history w/ Mathieu and he obviously wants to play for a winner I ultimately think he will go somewhere that offers more years and money than what the Bucs would potentially offer.
Honey Badger is the lone big name Safety out there. While BA and Bowles have history w/ Mathieu and he obviously wants to play for a winner I ultimately think he will go somewhere that offers more years and money than what the Bucs would potentially offer.
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Please, no.real bucs fan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:18 amBarkley would be a nice fit, gotta say!
But I think we want cheap. End of round 1 is a great place to target one.
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I know it's cool nowadays to act like the RB position doesn't matter, but I feel like it's out of control. We need someone reliable in that backfield. I don't think Tom is going to trust a rookie to pick up blitzes and make the difficult catches we need to keep the chains moving. Tom doesn't pick up cheap first downs with his legs when protection breaks down or the coverage is good. We need a player he can dump it to. The Bucs need to invest in the RB position. Is that Fournette? He's going to want $7M+ per and I don't blame him.
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I've never said an RB doesn't matter. But you'll rarely ever get me to say a 1st round pick should be used on one. Sorry. But, no. And most people here, me included, agree that a good vet RB is needed. No one has said to ignore the position.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 am I know it's cool nowadays to act like the RB position doesn't matter, but I feel like it's out of control. We need someone reliable in that backfield. I don't think Tom is going to trust a rookie to pick up blitzes and make the difficult catches we need to keep the chains moving. Tom doesn't pick up cheap first downs with his legs when protection breaks down or the coverage is good. We need a player he can dump it to. The Bucs need to invest in the RB position. Is that Fournette? He's going to want $7M+ per and I don't blame him.
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I'm just going to throw this out there...
Cordelle Patterson
Cordelle Patterson
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Evans
Godwin
Gage
Perriman
Miller
TJ
Darden
Looks like good competition for the final WR roster spots. Very unlikely we keep 7 WRs on the 53.
Tyler Johnson might not survive final cutdown to 53. He missed a great opportunity late last season when Godwin went down and his days of dressing on Sundays might be over. I'll bet he doesn't report to training camp out of shape this year and if he does BA should just release him then and there.
Godwin
Gage
Perriman
Miller
TJ
Darden
Looks like good competition for the final WR roster spots. Very unlikely we keep 7 WRs on the 53.
Tyler Johnson might not survive final cutdown to 53. He missed a great opportunity late last season when Godwin went down and his days of dressing on Sundays might be over. I'll bet he doesn't report to training camp out of shape this year and if he does BA should just release him then and there.
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Don’t forget Cyril Grayson being thrown in there as well. That’s a nice WR roomDread wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:11 am Evans
Godwin
Gage
Perriman
Miller
TJ
Darden
Looks like good competition for the final WR roster spots. Very unlikely we keep 7 WRs on the 53.
Tyler Johnson might not survive final cutdown to 53. He missed a great opportunity late last season when Godwin went down and his days of dressing on Sundays might be over. I'll bet he doesn't report to training camp out of shape this year and if he does BA should just release him then and there.
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Find a better WR corps in the league. There are not many
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I think many RB's in this draft can make a Tony Pollard type of name in a finger snap.Buc2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:23 amI've never said an RB doesn't matter. But you'll rarely ever get me to say a 1st round pick should be used on one. Sorry. But, no. And most people here, me included, agree that a good vet RB is needed. No one has said to ignore the position.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 am I know it's cool nowadays to act like the RB position doesn't matter, but I feel like it's out of control. We need someone reliable in that backfield. I don't think Tom is going to trust a rookie to pick up blitzes and make the difficult catches we need to keep the chains moving. Tom doesn't pick up cheap first downs with his legs when protection breaks down or the coverage is good. We need a player he can dump it to. The Bucs need to invest in the RB position. Is that Fournette? He's going to want $7M+ per and I don't blame him.
Also any of Tom's forthcoming liabilities shouldnt be counter to what's best for the Bucs in the future.
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They? As in Tom and the the Bucs right?Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:28 amBeyond ridiculous. Every single move they make should be for the ultimate success of the 2022 roster.
Did we learn nothing last year?
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No, "they" as in iabl. We make all the moves for the team.mdb1958 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 amThey? As in Tom and the the Bucs right?Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:28 am
Beyond ridiculous. Every single move they make should be for the ultimate success of the 2022 roster.
Did we learn nothing last year?
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It's not that the RB position "doesn't matter", but moreso that it's a devalued position where value is consistently found outside of the 1st round.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 am I know it's cool nowadays to act like the RB position doesn't matter, but I feel like it's out of control. We need someone reliable in that backfield. I don't think Tom is going to trust a rookie to pick up blitzes and make the difficult catches we need to keep the chains moving. Tom doesn't pick up cheap first downs with his legs when protection breaks down or the coverage is good. We need a player he can dump it to. The Bucs need to invest in the RB position. Is that Fournette? He's going to want $7M+ per and I don't blame him.
With RB it just seems the supply is always much more than the demand and as long as you have a good Oline like the Bucs do and a QB/passing game it's pretty easy to find RBs who will be successful.
I think it's likely we re-sign Lenny and have Vaughn as the primary back-up, then probably draft someone in rd 2, 3, or 4.