Patrick Mahomes will win how many more Super Bowls?

[Snake]

(unnecessary caveat: as a starter)

He turns 30 in September. He’s won 3. 2020, 2023, 2024.

[Central_Buc]

I have 2 more. He still is youngish and probably has more in him

[Bootz]

3-2 Superbowl record.

I went all out. He probably gets 3+ more. It takes the perfect game to beat him. And no other team in the AFC is close right now.

[__Chef__]

3-2 Superbowl record.

I went all out. He probably gets 3+ more. It takes the perfect game to beat him. And no other team in the AFC is close right now.

Until and unless he takes less of the salary cap to meet the goal, he will remain the most talented QB to not win a SB for the foreseeable future. It isn't a numbers game, it is a mentality.

[Bootz]

3-2 Superbowl record.

I went all out. He probably gets 3+ more. It takes the perfect game to beat him. And no other team in the AFC is close right now.

Until and unless he takes less of the salary cap to meet the goal, he will remain the most talented QB to not win a SB for the foreseeable future. It isn't a numbers game, it is a mentality.

What you're saying doesn't track at all.

The Chiefs just won Superbowls in 2022 & 2023 with Mahomes taking up 17.19% & 16.52% of the Chiefs cap in those respective seasons. This year he's taking up 10.05%. So by your very logic, the Chiefs should be SB favorites by a mile this year.

My questions would be then if not him, then who? And if it truly isn't about the numbers, then why mention them at all?

[__Chef__]

Until and unless he takes less of the salary cap to meet the goal, he will remain the most talented QB to not win a SB for the foreseeable future. It isn't a numbers game, it is a mentality.

What you're saying doesn't track at all.

The Chiefs just won't Superbowls in 2022 & 2023 with Mahomes taking up 17.19% & 16.52% of the Chiefs cap. This year he's taking up 10.05%. So by your very logic, the Chiefs should be SB favorites by a mile this year.

My questions would be then if not him, then who? And if it truly isn't about the numbers, then why mention them at all?

Good counterpoint. It's also good to remember Brady didn't win it every time he made it to the SB, but they were all within reach. Mahomes getting blown out in his two SB losses is taking a toll. As I said, the mentality needs to be "whatever it takes". Listening to interviews of other guys and seeing some footage of Brady behind the scenes, he's diving into detail on a player by player basis working on the smallest of things to find any advantage to come out on top, and relaying it to his teammates. That mentality is taking it to an entirely different level. It says "cut my salary so we can go get xyz". It stays up late watching film of the next opponent dissecting blitz tells, zone weaknesses, and self scouting to see what his opponent will see about his own team, and use that perceived weakness as a strength to counter attack.

Getting the rest of the team to buy in to this degree as an extra ask beyond what most are willing to sacrifice. Brady brought an assurance that if we do put in this work, we will have a real shot at a ring at the end of the tunnel. And in every SB his team's made it to, that's exactly what they had. Mahomes won 3, but he now also has two clunkers in there, sowing doubt.

As for who if not Mahomes, I don't think there's a better QB in the game. There are a handful of QB's in the league who elevate their game in the post season. Any one of them could be there. It's a matter of who puts together the best roster of talent, who coaches that talent up to an elite level, which coordinators can take advantage of their opponent, and which HC can outplay his rival across the field in chess on gameday. Still to this day, it's funny thinking back on Pete Carroll's SB loss to BB ... a perfect example of losing the chess game. Bill knew his opponent and had his guys prepared for the unlikely move when it struck.

Game over. Checkmate.

For now, it's the Eagles. Unless and until someone shows the ability to take out that juggernaut, they are the top dog, mostly on the shoulders of Vic Fangio. I'm expecting that defense will be even better in year 2. We shall see.

[Bootz]

What you're saying doesn't track at all.

The Chiefs just won't Superbowls in 2022 & 2023 with Mahomes taking up 17.19% & 16.52% of the Chiefs cap. This year he's taking up 10.05%. So by your very logic, the Chiefs should be SB favorites by a mile this year.

My questions would be then if not him, then who? And if it truly isn't about the numbers, then why mention them at all?

Good counterpoint. It's also good to remember Brady didn't win it every time he made it to the SB, but they were all within reach. Mahomes getting blown out in his two SB losses is taking a toll. As I said, the mentality needs to be "whatever it takes". Listening to interviews of other guys and seeing some footage of Brady behind the scenes, he's diving into detail on a player by player basis working on the smallest of things to find any advantage to come out on top, and relaying it to his teammates. That mentality is taking it to an entirely different level. It says "cut my salary so we can go get xyz". It stays up late watching film of the next opponent dissecting blitz tells, zone weaknesses, and self scouting to see what his opponent will see about his own team, and use that perceived weakness as a strength to counter attack.

Getting the rest of the team to buy in to this degree as an extra ask beyond what most are willing to sacrifice. Brady brought an assurance that if we do put in this work, we will have a real shot at a ring at the end of the tunnel. And in every SB his team's made it to, that's exactly what they had. Mahomes won 3, but he now also has two clunkers in there, sowing doubt.

As for who if not Mahomes, I don't think there's a better QB in the game. There are a handful of QB's in the league who elevate their game in the post season. Any one of them could be there. It's a matter of who puts together the best roster of talent, who coaches that talent up to an elite level, which coordinators can take advantage of their opponent, and which HC can outplay his rival across the field in chess on gameday. Still to this day, it's funny thinking back on Pete Carroll's SB loss to BB ... a perfect example of losing the chess game. Bill knew his opponent and had his guys prepared for the unlikely move when it struck.

Game over. Checkmate.

For now, it's the Eagles. Unless and until someone shows the ability to take out that juggernaut, they are the top dog, mostly on the shoulders of Vic Fangio. I'm expecting that defense will be even better in year 2. We shall see.

Those Superbowl blowouts are taking a toll on who exactly? That seems to be much more of a fan assumption than anything substantive. The Chiefs are 2-1 in the Superbowl since we beat them 31-9. On the contrary we haven't even reached so much as the NFC championship game since then. So maybe you meant "taking a toll" on the rest of the league?

I really think you're missing the forest for the trees here. Big picture, you're talking about a 3-2 SUPERBOWL RECORD. Not playoff record, but Superbowl record. For context Mahomes has lost more Superbowls than a lot of guys have even been to. What doubt is being sewed? Players dont care if they lose the Superbowl by 3 points or 30. That's for fans to bemoan about.

And let's say he doesn't ever win or even get to another Superbowl. What's the argument gonna be then? He's likely already won more than guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow etc will ever go to.

[Buc2]

2 more. Winning SB's is hard. Even for Mahomes.

[__Chef__]

Good counterpoint. It's also good to remember Brady didn't win it every time he made it to the SB, but they were all within reach. Mahomes getting blown out in his two SB losses is taking a toll. As I said, the mentality needs to be "whatever it takes". Listening to interviews of other guys and seeing some footage of Brady behind the scenes, he's diving into detail on a player by player basis working on the smallest of things to find any advantage to come out on top, and relaying it to his teammates. That mentality is taking it to an entirely different level. It says "cut my salary so we can go get xyz". It stays up late watching film of the next opponent dissecting blitz tells, zone weaknesses, and self scouting to see what his opponent will see about his own team, and use that perceived weakness as a strength to counter attack.

Getting the rest of the team to buy in to this degree as an extra ask beyond what most are willing to sacrifice. Brady brought an assurance that if we do put in this work, we will have a real shot at a ring at the end of the tunnel. And in every SB his team's made it to, that's exactly what they had. Mahomes won 3, but he now also has two clunkers in there, sowing doubt.

As for who if not Mahomes, I don't think there's a better QB in the game. There are a handful of QB's in the league who elevate their game in the post season. Any one of them could be there. It's a matter of who puts together the best roster of talent, who coaches that talent up to an elite level, which coordinators can take advantage of their opponent, and which HC can outplay his rival across the field in chess on gameday. Still to this day, it's funny thinking back on Pete Carroll's SB loss to BB ... a perfect example of losing the chess game. Bill knew his opponent and had his guys prepared for the unlikely move when it struck.

Game over. Checkmate.

For now, it's the Eagles. Unless and until someone shows the ability to take out that juggernaut, they are the top dog, mostly on the shoulders of Vic Fangio. I'm expecting that defense will be even better in year 2. We shall see.

Those Superbowl blowouts are taking a toll on who exactly? That seems to be much more of a fan assumption than anything substantive. The Chiefs are 2-1 in the Superbowl since we beat them 31-9. On the contrary we haven't even reached so much as the NFC championship game since then. So maybe you meant "taking a toll" on the rest of the league?

I really think you're missing the forest for the trees here. Big picture, you're talking about a 3-2 SUPERBOWL RECORD. Not playoff record, but Superbowl record. For context Mahomes has lost more Superbowls than a lot of guys have even been to. What doubt is being sewed? Players dont care if they lose the Superbowl by 3 points or 30. That's for fans to bemoan about.

And let's say he doesn't ever win or even get to another Superbowl. What's the argument gonna be then? He's likely already won more than guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow etc will ever go to.

Like I said, I'm not disputing Mahomes being the best QB in the game, but it's not just about who the best QB is.

[BucsNBills]

It depends, will he get to play against Brock Purdy or Jimmy G again?

[__Chef__]

He's likely already won more than guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow etc will ever go to.

Wild hypothetical:

Hurts get's hurt, Josh Allen sits out & demands a trade to the Eagles.

How many rings will Josh Allen have? Same scenario, swap out Allen for Burrow or Jackson ... Or to put it another way: How many times is Mahomes beating those squads?

[mdb1958]

All I know is I wanted someone to cave in his bird during the Superbowl.

[Doctor]

I think he's got another 2 in him.

What he's guy is that X factor. You just can't count out in the playoffs.

[Sooner06]

Funny, me and a couple buddies were having this exact conversation just last weekend.


i think two is very possible. though, the caveat is probably "when does Andy retire?" Once he rides off into the sunset, I foresee a stretch of potentially difficult times for a few years. And I just feel like Andy will call it quits in the next 4-5 years.


personally, I'm not super concerned about it, though my buddies are. somehow Pat's career won't be as great to them if he doesn't win at least 7 SBs. But I waited 50 years to see the Chiefs win a SB. Then they won 3 in the last 5 years. tbh, I was satisfied after he won #2. Anything he does from here on out is fine by me, as long as he remains a Chief.

[GreatTimes]

In the 2 SB's Mahomes Chiefs lost it was because of porous Offensive lines. The Chiefs retooled the Offensive line after the Buds loss. Not so sure they have retooled the Offensive line this off season. And sometimes you just need to be lucky that your personnel moves work out.

[Doctor]

I love how retooling was getting our "we'll never win a SB with him" player.

[Jonny]

Mahomes is going to win only one more Superbowl. The guys in AFC can't seem to deliver against him when it matters the most in tough gritty games. That being said, this is the year I think Lamar overtakes Mahomes. He already has the better team. He already played like one of the best, most unstoppable QBs i have ever seen. His smiley face after the heartbreaking loss to Bills tells me Lamar is no longer a guy who will get in his head during playoffs. Mofer is ready to rape the damn league this year. But Mahomes is still Mahomes. He will find a way to get one more.

The real tragedy might be the Bills and Allen. I hate their receiving crew outside of Tupac Shakur. They badly badly need a good WR that can win 1 on 1 comfortably. That FSU kid they drafted will be average at best. They seem to be bad at drafting. It will be multiple years of The Josh Allen show with close losses because of not having a dawg on offense besides the QB.

[CannonFire]

He's likely already won more than guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow etc will ever go to.

Wild hypothetical:

Hurts get's hurt, Josh Allen sits out & demands a trade to the Eagles.

How many rings will Josh Allen have? Same scenario, swap out Allen for Burrow or Jackson ... Or to put it another way: How many times is Mahomes beating those squads?

All 3 of them would win one this year, if they were here. So would a couple others... Herbert, Stafford, and Purdy.

[__Chef__]

Wild hypothetical:

Hurts get's hurt, Josh Allen sits out & demands a trade to the Eagles.

How many rings will Josh Allen have? Same scenario, swap out Allen for Burrow or Jackson ... Or to put it another way: How many times is Mahomes beating those squads?

All 3 of them would win one this year, if they were here. So would a couple others... Herbert, Stafford, and Purdy.

Here's to hoping and praying for a championship caliber defense to make it happen. I was surprised to hear Reddick say one of the big reasons he signed here was Coach Foote. Let's hope that coaching change and Reddick addition can have a meaningful impact.

[Bootz]

All 3 of them would win one this year, if they were here. So would a couple others... Herbert, Stafford, and Purdy.

Here's to hoping and praying for a championship caliber defense to make it happen. I was surprised to hear Reddick say one of the big reasons he signed here was Coach Foote. Let's hope that coaching change and Reddick addition can have a meaningful impact.

Foote was the Cardinals LB coach during Reddick’s 1st 2 seasons in the league. Ironically, those were 2 of his worst seasons in the league, though he was playing inside at the time.