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It's week 11 and the last Bucs win was week 7, almost a month ago over da Bears Oct. 24th.

It's only been 2 losses, but feels like more.
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Very interesting numbers and this could be a huge indicator into why home field might be more important to us than people think.


At home we average 38.25ppg vs 18.5 ppa.
On the road we average 23ppg vs 27.6ppa.

We are a completely different team away from Tampa and while this might be true across the league it only highlights the difference between this year and last when most stadiums were empty or a quarter full at best. Going on the road in the postseason might not be the picnic it was for us last season.

Brady has been great this year but it effects him as well. 18/2 vs 9/5 Home/Road splits in TDs to INTs. What completely shocked me though is how bad he's been in the last 2 minutes of the half. 67 passer rating, 4/4 TD/INT and completely only 54% of passes. By comparison, Matt Stafford has a 108.5 rating, 5/1 and 67.7% in the same situations.

A lot to clean up in the 2nd half of the year.
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What is Wentz's time to get the pass off compared to Brady?
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If he comes back, will this be Vea's first matchup with Nelson?
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:57 am If he comes back, will this be Vea's first matchup with Nelson?
Might not even be this weekend. Reported that on Sunday, Nelson re-aggravated his ankle injury.
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Apparently we took over as the #1 DVOA team in the league. I just don't see how DVOA can be taken seriously as a metric if they have the Bucs #1.
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ATrain wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:47 am Apparently we took over as the #1 DVOA team in the league. I just don't see how LUGZ can be taken seriously if he has the Bucs #32.
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@nybf I think we've made progress. There's only one person who feeds it now. Only one....
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You're projecting if you think I was going to put Bucs at 32.

Rams
Cardinals
Packers
Cowboys
Saints
Chiefs
Bills
Titans
Patriots

Those teams are all better than the Bucs, so if DVOA is to be taken seriously as a metric, all those teams just be ranked higher than us.

So yes, clearly DVOA is scuffed and should be ignored.
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nybf wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:56 am
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ATrain wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:08 am You're projecting if you think I was going to put Bucs at 32.

Rams
Cardinals
Packers
Cowboys
Saints
Chiefs
Bills
Titans
Patriots

Those teams are all better than the Bucs, so if DVOA is to be taken seriously as a metric, all those teams just be ranked higher than us.

So yes, clearly DVOA is scuffed and should be ignored.
In what ways are all of those teams better than us?
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ATrain wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:08 am You're projecting if you think I was going to put Bucs at 32.

Rams
Cardinals
Packers
Cowboys
Saints
Chiefs
Bills
Titans
Patriots

Those teams are all better than the Bucs, so if DVOA is to be taken seriously as a metric, all those teams just be ranked higher than us.

So yes, clearly DVOA is scuffed and should be ignored.
You do realize that DVOA total score is offense AND defense, right?
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nybf wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:56 am
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/327 ... tball-team

Wild story where a high school basketball team had added SMB accidentally to their group chat. They didn’t believe him and he passed the phone around to Lenny, Gronk, and even the GOAT.

Pretty cool for these guys to have this story. SMB probably should change his number before some high school girls hit him up.
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:44 am https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/327 ... tball-team

Wild story where a high school basketball team had added SMB accidentally to their group chat. They didn’t believe him and he passed the phone around to Lenny, Gronk, and even the GOAT.

Pretty cool for these guys to have this story. SMB probably should change his number before some high school girls hit him up.
Kinda feel sad for SMB here. Guy was bor and raised in Michigan, was there his entire life before he got to Tampa and the high school team from Michigan had no clue who he was.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:58 am
BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:44 am https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/327 ... tball-team

Wild story where a high school basketball team had added SMB accidentally to their group chat. They didn’t believe him and he passed the phone around to Lenny, Gronk, and even the GOAT.

Pretty cool for these guys to have this story. SMB probably should change his number before some high school girls hit him up.
Kinda feel sad for SMB here. Guy was bor and raised in Michigan, was there his entire life before he got to Tampa and the high school team from Michigan had no clue who he was.
To be fair, it was 45 minutes away from where he went to school. Michigan is a powerhouse for football.

I like the kids asking for a big fantasy day from Lenny and him outperforming his career days.
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No structural damage for Jamel Dean (shoulder), so he'll be week to week.

The dream of getting Davis-Dean-SMB together on the field is still alive!!
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Dread wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:07 pm No structural damage for Jamel Dean (shoulder), so he'll be week to week.

The dream of getting Davis-Dean-SMB together on the field is still alive!!
Does money get Vea an implant tooth in one day?
Stinnie?
DW??
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mdb1958 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:16 pm
Dread wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:07 pm No structural damage for Jamel Dean (shoulder), so he'll be week to week.

The dream of getting Davis-Dean-SMB together on the field is still alive!!
Does money get Vea an implant tooth in one day?
Stinnie?
DW??
I'm sure Vea will have a nice looking smile by practice on Wednesday

Marpet should be back soon enough so idk too much about Stinnie. No update on his injury though.

Devin White came back and played the entire 2nd half so I'll assume he's not injured too bad. BA said today that DW will rest til Friday and see how he's feeling.
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Dread wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:19 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:16 pm

Does money get Vea an implant tooth in one day?
Stinnie?
DW??
I'm sure Vea will have a nice looking smile by practice on Wednesday

Marpet should be back soon enough so idk too much about Stinnie. No update on his injury though.

Devin White came back and played the entire 2nd half so I'll assume he's not injured too bad. BA said today that DW will rest til Friday and see how he's feeling.

DW was on the field during Indy's final TD?
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mdb1958 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:25 pm
Dread wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:19 pm
I'm sure Vea will have a nice looking smile by practice on Wednesday

Marpet should be back soon enough so idk too much about Stinnie. No update on his injury though.

Devin White came back and played the entire 2nd half so I'll assume he's not injured too bad. BA said today that DW will rest til Friday and see how he's feeling.

DW was on the field during Indy's final TD?
I'm pretty sure he wasn't. I'm pretty sure he didn't play much if at all in the second half. I recall seeing a lot of Minter.
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Dread wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:19 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:16 pm

Does money get Vea an implant tooth in one day?
Stinnie?
DW??
I'm sure Vea will have a nice looking smile by practice on Wednesday

Marpet should be back soon enough so idk too much about Stinnie. No update on his injury though.

Devin White came back and played the entire 2nd half so I'll assume he's not injured too bad. BA said today that DW will rest til Friday and see how he's feeling.
He came into the game with a quad injury and that led to the hip injury. Gotta be careful with connecting core injuries or it'll lead to something like Carlton Davis. This time of the year we can't afford that.
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The Outsider wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:30 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:25 pm


DW was on the field during Indy's final TD?
I'm pretty sure he wasn't. I'm pretty sure he didn't play much if at all in the second half. I recall seeing a lot of Minter.
White left the game early in the first quarter and Minter subbed in playing the rest of the first half.

White returned and played the 2nd half

Minter played 34 snaps
White played 35 snaps
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Dread wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:48 pm
The Outsider wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:30 pm

I'm pretty sure he wasn't. I'm pretty sure he didn't play much if at all in the second half. I recall seeing a lot of Minter.
White left the game early in the first quarter and Minter subbed in playing the rest of the first half.

White returned and played the 2nd half

Minter played 34 snaps
White played 35 snaps
Yeah (found it), he managed one tackle on that 10 play drive.
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Dread wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:48 pm
The Outsider wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:30 pm

I'm pretty sure he wasn't. I'm pretty sure he didn't play much if at all in the second half. I recall seeing a lot of Minter.
White left the game early in the first quarter and Minter subbed in playing the rest of the first half.

White returned and played the 2nd half

Minter played 34 snaps
White played 35 snaps
It was weird, either during halftime or right as 2nd half was kicking off, they said DW was downgraded to "out", then all of a sudden he's on the field. I know NFL is a stickler for injury designations for their betting public, so I thought that was strange.
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What sucks is, I bet DW easily makes that pick that Minter dropped. All's well that ends well, but that was a huge missed opportunity.
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What kind of shot do you think they gave 45 for him to finish playing?
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BJJ34 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:02 am What kind of shot do you think they gave 45 for him to finish playing?
If they gave him anything, I'd assume Toradol. But I'm not doctor, so I digress.
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Ahh Toradol. You ever enjoy a nice Toradol shot?
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Snake wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:31 pm Ahh Toradol. You ever enjoy a nice Toradol shot?
I received maybe a dozen in my life, all from team docs during my brief career. It's good stuff, but apparently can be rough if you get it regularly. Again, I'm no doctor, so take my anecdotal experiences with a grain of salt.
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Fun interview of Gronk by Willie McGinest on NFL Total Access yesterday.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bucs-te-rob-gr ... ming-for-i
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AB suspended 3 games for the fake vax card along with 3 other players.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:15 pm AB suspended 3 games for the fake vax card along with 3 other players.
Mike Edwards included. Oof
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Oof, this is a very bad look for the team and AB lol.

Guess it was going to happen eventually, but fuck.


I actually wonder if AB and Edwards stay with the team now. The only other similar case is the NHL's Evander Kane, and he was suspended 21 games and dropped by his team. Hell, nobody else at the top level would even touch him.
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