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Just now seeing that USC and UCLA plan to join the B1G in another head scratching consolidation of college football.
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I thought B1G is against it? What a crock of BS

Holy shit

B1G vs SEC
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Big 12 is not looking good right now… I bet ACC FSU bolt for SEC anytime soon.

Clemson, FSU and Miami to the SEC?

Oklahoma State is likely SEC bound

North Carolina, Notre Dame, Virginia and Syracuse to the BIG 10?


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_MB_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:24 pm Just now seeing that USC and UCLA plan to join the B1G in another head scratching consolidation of college football.
I think we are heading to a future where it'll be two superconferences of the top teams. Maybe sixteen teams apiece split up into a total of four to eight divisions, with those winners battling for playoff spots. Yes, I realize that's aping the NFL system and no I don't think it's an accident.

If we added some European soccer style promotion and relegation to add some movement and parity, I think it could work out. For example, at the end of each season the bottom two teams in a superconference would be eligible for relegation to a lower conference, while the top performers from the lower conferences would be eligible for promotion. This would force out teams like Vanderbilt and Indiana who get dogwalked in the SEC and B1G respectively, while allowing the Cincinnatis and San Diego States room for growth and allow them to compete with the big boys.

Just a thought.
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West Virginia need to leave big 12 for SEC
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Curious what Oregon and Washington do. Both have been to the CFP and are generally solid programs.
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Nano wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:50 pm Curious what Oregon and Washington do. Both have been to the CFP and are generally solid programs.
He think B1G is not done yet

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Nano wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:50 pm Curious what Oregon and Washington do. Both have been to the CFP and are generally solid programs.



This is kind of funny !!
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Phantom wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:43 pm West Virginia need to leave big 12 for SEC
ACC a better fit tbh.
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_MB_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:16 pm
Phantom wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:43 pm West Virginia need to leave big 12 for SEC
ACC a better fit tbh.

Currently, yes. In 5 years? Probably not, unless you want to sit there and own Wofford on an annual basis.
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Kress wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:23 pm
_MB_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:16 pm
ACC a better fit tbh.

Currently, yes. In 5 years? Probably not, unless you want to sit there and own Wofford on an annual basis.
They need to be playing Pitt, Virginia, and VT on an annual basis in order for things to be right.
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The college football middle class is shrinking faster than the American middle class.
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_MB_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:56 pm
Kress wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:23 pm


Currently, yes. In 5 years? Probably not, unless you want to sit there and own Wofford on an annual basis.
They need to be playing Pitt, Virginia, and VT on an annual basis in order for things to be right.
True. I still think Ped State belongs in the mix, as well.
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Kress wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:25 pm
_MB_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:56 pm
They need to be playing Pitt, Virginia, and VT on an annual basis in order for things to be right.
True. I still think Ped State belongs in the mix, as well.
Not a traditional rival, but sure.
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The more I think about it, I honestly think ACC will merge with SEC to become super conference against B1G/PAC 12

Notre Dame goes to B1G


It’s no secret SEC wants Clemson, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, NC and Duke


Big 12 merge with AAC, Pac 12, Mountain West and Sun belt leftover

BYU is having second thought


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What a crock of BS.. I don’t believe it
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Phantom wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:11 pm

What a crock of BS.. I don’t believe it
The Big Ten took on enough bloat of state flagship universities (looking at you Maryland) that Stanford would look mighty attractive to them.
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I think every school on the outside looking in should all declare independence and make their schedules with each other. Get as many Big 2 games in as you can for the bigger paydays and play the best schedule you can put together for your program. ESPNU and Fox Sports will still call you and you don't have to pay a conference.

It worked for FSU and Notre Dame for years. The Irish had an exclusive deal with NBC for ages. College football is big enough that pretty much every division one game is going to pull a TV audience.
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I know you live in South Carolina, have you heard any rumors about Clemson join SEC?
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Phantom wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:10 pm @uscbucsfan

I know you live in South Carolina, have you heard any rumors about Clemson join SEC?
No, in the past the SEC didn't want them because they have the SC TV market. Things have changed, but no rumors.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:25 pm
Phantom wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:10 pm @uscbucsfan

I know you live in South Carolina, have you heard any rumors about Clemson join SEC?
No, in the past the SEC didn't want them because they have the SC TV market. Things have changed, but no rumors.

Screw what they hear in S.C. Here's what changed: When I was in high school in upstate N.Y., the Gamecocks were cool. EVERYBODY and their brother wore a white Cocks hat. You are similar age, so you know it. But that's no more.

Do you know what I see now, when I go visit my parents in upstate N.Y.? Clemson gear. Paws everywhere. The same when I go visit my sister in eastern Vermont. No Boston or anything else. It is tiger paws.

Like any fad it will fade, but Clemson is currently seen as the "every man's" alternative to the juggernauts, and the team brings that audience. If they are going to move, now is the time. The ACC contract is a bugger, though.
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Kress wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:49 pm
uscbucsfan wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:25 pm

No, in the past the SEC didn't want them because they have the SC TV market. Things have changed, but no rumors.

Screw what they hear in S.C. Here's what changed: When I was in high school in upstate N.Y., the Gamecocks were cool. EVERYBODY and their brother wore a white Cocks hat. You are similar age, so you know it. But that's no more.

Do you know what I see now, when I go visit my parents in upstate N.Y.? Clemson gear. Paws everywhere. The same when I go visit my sister in eastern Vermont. No Boston or anything else. It is tiger paws.

Like any fad it will fade, but Clemson is currently seen as the "every man's" alternative to the juggernauts, and the team brings that audience. If they are going to move, now is the time. The ACC contract is a bugger, though.
Sorry if we've had this convo before, but whereabouts upstate?
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MJW wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:11 am Sorry if we've had this convo before, but whereabouts upstate?

At various times:

Plattsburgh
Oneonta
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Championship gane in Las Vegas ?
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The best thing that could happen for college football would be for the next several champions to be: Clemson, Penn St., Clemson, USC, Clemson, Oregon, Clemson, Wisconsin, Clemson, Iowa, Clemson.

Or any combination thereof.
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Kress wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:49 pm
uscbucsfan wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:25 pm

No, in the past the SEC didn't want them because they have the SC TV market. Things have changed, but no rumors.

Screw what they hear in S.C. Here's what changed: When I was in high school in upstate N.Y., the Gamecocks were cool. EVERYBODY and their brother wore a white Cocks hat. You are similar age, so you know it. But that's no more.

Do you know what I see now, when I go visit my parents in upstate N.Y.? Clemson gear. Paws everywhere. The same when I go visit my sister in eastern Vermont. No Boston or anything else. It is tiger paws.

Like any fad it will fade, but Clemson is currently seen as the "every man's" alternative to the juggernauts, and the team brings that audience. If they are going to move, now is the time. The ACC contract is a bugger, though.
Because one of the most popular hat designs then was all white with printing in team colors, team nickname is large caps, location underneath. For some reason, everyone wanted to wear a hat that said

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COCKS
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south carolina
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nybf wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:58 pm Because one of the most popular hat designs then was all white with printing in team colors, team nickname is large caps, location underneath. For some reason, everyone wanted to wear a hat that said

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COCKS
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south carolina
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Official fraternity uniform of the 90's.

The OSU Beavers took a run at them, but it was only seen as people trying to be contrarian because nothing rivaled the Cocks.
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Swear to God the WVU one said "EERS".
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There's a rumor from swimming website of SEC to add North Carolina, FSU, Clemson, and Virginia. Miami left out.

So take it with a grain of salt
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Phantom wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:24 pm There's a rumor from swimming website of SEC to add North Carolina, FSU, Clemson, and Virginia. Miami left out.

So take it with a grain of salt
I saw that, too...but also this:

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I am hearing about more and more smoke with this. Waiting for the fire.

I have to assume the negotiations are taking place. Whether they come to fruition is another story. The logistics and TV deals and whatnot are the kicker.

But I would love the opportunity to kick Alabama's ass on the regular. That's right, I said it.


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It seems most Clemson fans here would rather go to the B1G. They seem to HATE the SEC.
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uscbucsfan wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:15 pm It seems most Clemson fans here would rather go to the B1G.
No thanks. We'll stick to good schools
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SaggyBallZ wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:48 pm
uscbucsfan wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:15 pm It seems most Clemson fans here would rather go to the B1G.
No thanks. We'll stick to good schools
Yes, like Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, and Illinois.
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Snake wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:01 pm
SaggyBallZ wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:48 pm

No thanks. We'll stick to good schools
Yes, like Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, and Illinois.
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