Welcome Zyon McCollum

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GreatTimes wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:03 pm I hope Zyon continues to improve and becomes an all pro.
I think everyone hopes that of every player on this team.
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Can Ko Kieft be all pro? Who am I kidding?
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Phantom wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:56 pm Can Ko Kieft be all pro? Who am I kidding?
We hope he can
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Phantom wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:56 pm Can Ko Kieft be all pro? Who am I kidding?

You can't throw it to him late as he doesnt create enough separation.
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Defensive coaches have put out some good pressers recently. One thing that is clear from all of them is that OBP does not share the boards concern for outside CB or Zyon in the least. You may as well tell them we have Sauce and Reed.
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If they did, they also probably wouldn't say so. Just sayin.
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Well a lot of them had Zyon pegged as the guy to take the biggest leap last year so I'm sure they feel more vindication than concern.
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Doctor wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:53 pm Well a lot of them had Zyon pegged as the guy to take the biggest leap last year so I'm sure they feel more vindication than concern.
You can't have vindication without evidence. And you can't have evidence without playing games. In simple terms their pressers mean absolutely nothing in May.
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Zyon was literally our lead CB last year.
You have 92 targets of evidence, 17th most last year. In it he allowed a team best 59% completion on all those for a QB rating of 91.
AWJ was 68% on his 44 targets QB rating 102, Dean allowing 66% on 56 targets QB rating 111, Davis allowing 61% on 83 targets QB rating 96.

So he performed at a better rate than his current teammates across twice as many data points of evidence.

Yes, we very much love our outter shell of Zyon-Whitehead-Winfield Jr-Dean.
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Providing that information without any context is ridiculous.
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Do you believe OBP lacks context???
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I am not anti-whatever the Bucs trying to do with their secondary, by the way. I think the unit will be less talented this season than it was last season. Davis is too good of a player for that not to be the case. But there is an argument to be made about the scheme and fit, and if the drop in talent is going to manifest in a meaningful way. if bowles continues to run with the zone scheme. Which Cheb was privy to before pretty much anyone else, and pointed out during the Arians era. It is a unit of sure tacklers and physical players. Which is great. But you can only cover grass for so long.

Just pray for the front seven doing their job. Lacking an elite pass rusher means everyone needs to chip in. Kancey needs to step up. Braswell needs to be ready asap. Nelson and JTS are who they are. Also, that McCollum and Dean can play man adequately when called to do so. Because they will be.
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