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I mean it's hard to find a great DT that wasn't accused of being dirty. You play the dirtiest position and the better you are the more opponents are going to be dirty with you and you gotta respond in kind.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:39 pm I mean it's hard to find a great DT that wasn't accused of being dirty. You play the dirtiest position and the better you are the more opponents are going to be dirty with you and you gotta respond in kind.
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Pirate Life wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:10 pm
Doctor wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:39 pm I mean it's hard to find a great DT that wasn't accused of being dirty. You play the dirtiest position and the better you are the more opponents are going to be dirty with you and you gotta respond in kind.
Vita Vea.
That seems accurate I have not heard any reports of Vea being dirty.
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Easy to root for the Bengals
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real bucs fan wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:54 pm Easy to root for the Bengals
I agree. I think they have overcome a great deal to get to the big game. I like the team.
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Bengals are easy to root for. City and team has been through a lot of what Tampa and the Bucs have. Burrow is a great QB in the making also, possibly the best of his generation. Their kicker is already a legend as a rookie too.
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Cincy is canceling school on Super Bowl Monday. They deserve to win.
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It's interesting to see people turn on Joe Burrow over his money comment and what they consider cocky twitter posts.

Makes me cheer for him a bit more.

We need a good villain in the league.
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nybf wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:17 pm Cincy is canceling school on Super Bowl Monday. They deserve to win.
I don't think I've ever heard of a city doing that before.

Cool move.
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Joe Burrow is what we keep being asked to pretend Baker Mayfield is.

The Bengals winning the Superbowl after going 4-11-1, not adding any marquee veterans (Hendrickson is a great player, but so was Carl Lawson, who he replaced), and almost firing Zac Taylor, would be maybe the most unforeseen Superbowl Champion since...Brady and the Pats in 2001? The Eagles kind of came out of nowhere, but they were 7-9 the year before and had forward momentum.
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MJW wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:35 am Joe Burrow is what we keep being asked to pretend Baker Mayfield is.

The Bengals winning the Superbowl after going 4-11-1, not adding any marquee veterans (Hendrickson is a great player, but so was Carl Lawson, who he replaced), and almost firing Zac Taylor, would be maybe the most unforeseen Superbowl Champion since...Brady and the Pats in 2001? The Eagles kind of came out of nowhere, but they were 7-9 the year before and had forward momentum.
Burrow was showing signs of being "THAT GUY" last year. Getting him healthy, getting him Ja'marr Chase and doing a better job of protecting him paid dividends.

The thing that really surprised me about the Bengal is how their defense has turned it up when needed. Stonewalling the Chiefs in OT is a big boy move.
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Terry Tate wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:19 am
MJW wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:35 am Joe Burrow is what we keep being asked to pretend Baker Mayfield is.

The Bengals winning the Superbowl after going 4-11-1, not adding any marquee veterans (Hendrickson is a great player, but so was Carl Lawson, who he replaced), and almost firing Zac Taylor, would be maybe the most unforeseen Superbowl Champion since...Brady and the Pats in 2001? The Eagles kind of came out of nowhere, but they were 7-9 the year before and had forward momentum.
Burrow was showing signs of being "THAT GUY" last year. Getting him healthy, getting him Ja'marr Chase and doing a better job of protecting him paid dividends.

The thing that really surprised me about the Bengal is how their defense has turned it up when needed. Stonewalling the Chiefs in OT is a big boy move.
It's a pretty anonymous defense but they seem to be hitting their stride. They play like that against the Rams, they have a damn good chance in this game.
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Cheb wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:06 am
nybf wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:17 pm Cincy is canceling school on Super Bowl Monday. They deserve to win.
I don't think I've ever heard of a city doing that before.

Cool move.
I haven't either. They have built-in snow days, so why not use one for this? Makes perfect sense and it's a move I applaud.
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They seem to usually have that day after off anyway but it didn't line up this year so they threw in the extra one when the Bengals made it. Classy move. Doubling down on rooting for the Bengals now.
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Terry Tate wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:19 am Burrow was showing signs of being "THAT GUY" last year. Getting him healthy, getting him Ja'marr Chase and doing a better job of protecting him paid dividends.
I agree Burrow was showing magic last season even though the results were not there. It is really odd to think the team is doing a better job of protecting him when you realize just how bad his protection has been this season. That team would be truly dangerous with a good offensive line.
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I was pondering my annual Superbowl bet, and I just realized the Rams have a better team, more experience, probably a better coaching staff, and they're playing at home. But Joe Burrow has kinda entered "Don't really want to bet against that dude" territory. That's probably the best definition of a franchise quarterback - you don't want to bet against him even if you should.
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MJW wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:54 pm I was pondering my annual Superbowl bet, and I just realized the Rams have a better team, more experience, probably a better coaching staff, and they're playing at home. But Joe Burrow has kinda entered "Don't really want to bet against that dude" territory. That's probably the best definition of a franchise quarterback - you don't want to bet against him even if you should.
Plus he has something that no other QB does: the ability to get sacked 9 times and not be rattled one bit. That nearly negates the pass rush. The Titans wrecked Burrow and look how much it mattered. That kid is made of something else.
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Primeminister wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:57 am
MJW wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:54 pm I was pondering my annual Superbowl bet, and I just realized the Rams have a better team, more experience, probably a better coaching staff, and they're playing at home. But Joe Burrow has kinda entered "Don't really want to bet against that dude" territory. That's probably the best definition of a franchise quarterback - you don't want to bet against him even if you should.
Plus he has something that no other QB does: the ability to get sacked 9 times and not be rattled one bit. That nearly negates the pass rush. The Titans wrecked Burrow and look how much it mattered. That kid is made of something else.
I can't think of many guys you could say that about. Even Tom started to get rattled if he got hit too much (that was basically the only way to beat him.)
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MJW wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:52 am
Primeminister wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:57 am

Plus he has something that no other QB does: the ability to get sacked 9 times and not be rattled one bit. That nearly negates the pass rush. The Titans wrecked Burrow and look how much it mattered. That kid is made of something else.
I can't think of many guys you could say that about. Even Tom started to get rattled if he got hit too much (that was basically the only way to beat him.)
Yep. That’s my point. I’ve never really seen any QB like him in that way.
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Primeminister wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:51 am
MJW wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:52 am

I can't think of many guys you could say that about. Even Tom started to get rattled if he got hit too much (that was basically the only way to beat him.)
Yep. That’s my point. I’ve never really seen any QB like him in that way.
I can think of a few...Aikman, on those rare occasions he'd get hit, would still stand and deliver if he needed to. Elway was like that - I never saw him play scared. Those are the first two who come to mind, and it's a huge part of the reason they combined for 5 Rings.
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MJW wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:52 am
Primeminister wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:57 am

Plus he has something that no other QB does: the ability to get sacked 9 times and not be rattled one bit. That nearly negates the pass rush. The Titans wrecked Burrow and look how much it mattered. That kid is made of something else.
I can't think of many guys you could say that about. Even Tom started to get rattled if he got hit too much (that was basically the only way to beat him.)
It has been a long time but I think Doug Williams was like that.
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PetePierson wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:22 pm This idea is quite possibly my biggest football trigger; If you hit him, he'll get rattled and play worse.

You don't want some sweat soaked 300lb beast planting your ass in the ground while wearing pants so tight you can tell his religion?

Really? Is water wet? No one likes to get hit. Including lineman that get beat on every damn play. It fucking sucks.

So dumb
In football, I agree. Perhaps there are some people that like to get hit though. Say, Mike Tyson when he was younger.
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No one likes getting hit, but QBs are usually more frail than your typical player because they don't get hit at much. Burrow does seem to shake it off like it's just part of the game and go about unaffected. At least relative to other QBs. It's a huge asset.

I expect a lot of screens from the Bengals to help slow down the Rams speed. If Raheem can defend the screen while still keeping pressure on pass plays it should be a wrap. If not it could turn into a thrilling shoot-out.

I agree, I'm team Rams but I'm not betting against Burrow.
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13F11B wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:14 pm
MJW wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:52 am

I can't think of many guys you could say that about. Even Tom started to get rattled if he got hit too much (that was basically the only way to beat him.)
It has been a long time but I think Doug Williams was like that.
I don't think Williams was like that at all. Dude was always under pressure. He played for the Bucs, after all.
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Buc2 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:51 am
13F11B wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:14 pm

It has been a long time but I think Doug Williams was like that.
I don't think Williams was like that at all. Dude was always under pressure. He played for the Bucs, after all.
To be clear I was saying Doug Williams played like Burrow and would continue to play under pressure and not get ratteled. Then again, this was before NFL Sunday ticket and I did not get to see many games.
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13F11B wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:20 am
Buc2 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:51 am
I don't think Williams was like that at all. Dude was always under pressure. He played for the Bucs, after all.
To be clear I was saying Doug Williams played like Burrow and would continue to play under pressure and not get ratteled. Then again, this was before NFL Sunday ticket and I did not get to see many games.
Sorry. Totally misread your post.
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The more I think about this game… the more I’m convinced it’ll be a blowout for the Rams. Neutralize the quick screen and the game is essentially over unless Cinci’s defense sparks some dramatics.
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The Bengals defense held the Chiefs to three points in the second half.
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Cheb wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:06 am
nybf wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:17 pm Cincy is canceling school on Super Bowl Monday. They deserve to win.
I don't think I've ever heard of a city doing that before.

Cool move.
We should take Columbus day (which people seem to hate anyways) and just switch it to the Monday after Super Bowl Sunday and call it something different.

Or move the game to Saturday.

It's dumb to have it on Sunday evening (for the east coast) and it not ending til 10pm when it's promoted as a social event.
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Rams by 20. McVay vs his protégé?? Won't be close.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:35 pm Rams by 20. McVay vs his protégé?? Won't be close.
Fool’s gold.

Bet?
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Rocker wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:59 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:35 pm Rams by 20. McVay vs his protégé?? Won't be close.
Fool’s gold.

Bet?
Yea make me a sweet sig when the Rams win.

This has more to do with the Bengals than it does the Rams honestly. Getting a real "deer in headlights" vibe from them. That defense is poo poo and that Oline going against the Rams front? Have fun, Joe/Joe.
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You must have spent your time away in Bora Bora. Joe Burrrrrrow has ice water for blood. I’m expecting a very competitive game.
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Rocker wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 pm You must have spent your time away in Bora Bora. Joe Burrrrrrow has ice water for blood. I’m expecting a very competitive game.
Some Mod inactived my account or something. I don't know about computer shit. But it is what it is.


I love Joe. He's on his way to be one of the best. But it doesn't escape me that A. His coaching staff does him no favors with the offense he plays in, B. His Oline is arguably the worst in football and C. Up until mid November he was in the middle of the pack in terms of QB play and also was leading the league in INTs until an amazing December.

If the Bengals are to win that pisspoor defense will have to do much better.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:20 pm
Rocker wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 pm You must have spent your time away in Bora Bora. Joe Burrrrrrow has ice water for blood. I’m expecting a very competitive game.
Some Mod inactived my account or something. I don't know about computer shit. But it is what it is.


I love Joe. He's on his way to be one of the best. But it doesn't escape me that A. His coaching staff does him no favors with the offense he plays in, B. His Oline is arguably the worst in football and C. Up until mid November he was in the middle of the pack in terms of QB play and also was leading the league in INTs until an amazing December.

If the Bengals are to win that pisspoor defense will have to do much better.
He's got that thing. That thing that's the opposite of what KirK Cousins has. How does a guy take 9 sacks in a playoff game on the road and keep dealing? I have no idea.

I agree with your points, though. It's not a brilliant offense, the line is awful, and he does have a penchant for pushing the ball into questionable situations.

It's pretty simple to me. If this is His Moment, the Bengals will win. If it's not, they'll get dogwalked. I was too young to remember the Marino Superbowl in 1984, but I imagine it was a similar scenario. Second year brilliant QB, overmatched on paper, couldn't quite get it done. I'm hoping Burrow does, though. I like the kid and the league needs some new superstars. Plus, screw the Rams.
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