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Bucs will need to consider Tevin Coleman who has rushed for over 50 yards each the last four games.
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We now have three less used deep distractions.

Miller
Perryman
Grayson

I like that and hope they ignore it.
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I would like to see Brady build some more chemistry with guys who have not played much. Keep Evans out even if he 'could' play or at the worse use him a few series on a limited pitch count.
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Ahhhh... The "McFan" Bowl.

It seems the Jets DO have some life. I still think we take them. Even missing players, our defense should take them down.

That being said, I remember games when the Jets would lay out a fifty-burger, (usually against Miami). But that was a long time ago.
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I fully expect Bowles to confuse the fuck out of Zach Wilson and our secondary to feast on his weaknesses. If we get AWJ back, our secondary will be fully healthy. That’s the first time since week 1.

JPP should sit again. Same with Evans. Same with Lenny even if he can go.

I’m with sitting everyone the rest of the way that is even remotely banged up. But gotta remember the playoffs are PHYSICAL. Sitting guys historically… never really works and Brady knows that.

Tyler Johnson cannot be a 0 on the score sheet again. Gotta make your paycheck if you want to be here through training camp next year.
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Anyone going? If the forecast clears up, I might.
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Forecast calls for a wet, cold, windy afternoon. I seriously doubt anyone dealing with an injury would play much if at all (Evans, Winfield, Shaq maybe).
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nybf wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:27 am Anyone going? If the forecast clears up, I might.
I’ll be there with my son. Fingers crossed on the forecast.

This season has worked pretty perfectly for me to make games. This will be my fourth game this season (Eagles, WFT, and Bills) — personal record! Thinking I may try to make it to a playoff game, too. It’s been an expensive season haha
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Per the Useless CPAP Machine Wearing Statue Shaq is out for the rest of the regular season and "hopefully" back for playoffs.

Tomorrow update of Shaq having a torn acl and our for season still pending.
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I love how somehow, someway miraculously ALL of our injured players except Godwin got the prognosis to return Wildcard weekend. And even his initial "diagnosis" was a simple MCL sprain.

Bottom line though, Shaq ain't coming back from a sprained ACL in 3 weeks. Not happening. Either it's not truly sprained, which basically means partial tear, or BA is doing his usual BS he does with injuries trying to make them seem not as serious as they are. Somebody should've schooled him on this one though. Ain't enough HGH in the world to make this a possibility.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:36 pm I love how somehow, someway miraculously ALL of our injured players except Godwin got the prognosis to return Wildcard weekend. And even his initial "diagnosis" was a simple MCL sprain.

Bottoming though, Shaq ain't coming back from a sprained ACL in 3 weeks. Not happening. Either it's not truly sprained, which basically means partial tear, or BA is doing his usual BS he does with injuries trying to make them seem not as serious as they are. Somebody should've schooled him on this one though. Ain't enough HGH in the world to make this a possibility.
Is it Arians or the team doctors that don't know what they are talking about?
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13F11B wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:49 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:36 pm I love how somehow, someway miraculously ALL of our injured players except Godwin got the prognosis to return Wildcard weekend. And even his initial "diagnosis" was a simple MCL sprain.

Bottoming though, Shaq ain't coming back from a sprained ACL in 3 weeks. Not happening. Either it's not truly sprained, which basically means partial tear, or BA is doing his usual BS he does with injuries trying to make them seem not as serious as they are. Somebody should've schooled him on this one though. Ain't enough HGH in the world to make this a possibility.
Is it Arians or the team doctors that don't know what they are talking about?
After the Gronk, AB, and Godwin disasters, who knows. You could arguably throw SMB in there as well. I believe Arians initially said he wouldn't be out long and he ended up missing 10 games.

I'm inclined to think BA thinks guys will be back sooner instead of reporting the information team docs give him. If that's not the case their team doc needs to be fired for giving the worst prognosis' ever. Things do change as it pertains to the body. But usually doctors will give the worst case scenario instead of an impossible one as the long term prognosis. Both Gronk & AB went from a week or 2 to 6 weeks for Gronk and 9 for AB. Godwin went from an MCL sprain to a torn ACL.

This kind of stuff shows some level of incompetence.
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So the question now becomes, can we make a real SB if Shaq is going for the playoffs?
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What is a "real SB"
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:36 pm Bottom line though, Shaq ain't coming back from a sprained ACL in 3 weeks. Not happening.
MCL recovery times depends on how severe the sprain is and the position played. Joe Flacco missed zero games with an MCL sprain about 7 or 8 years ago. Earlier this season Aaron Jones only missed two weeks with his, so entirely possible Barrett could be back by the playoffs if he has a grade I sprain.

This sports medicine site shows it can be anywhere from a few days to eight weeks depending on the severity of the sprain.

https://www.sports-health.com/sports-in ... -and-tears
t can take anywhere from a few days to 8 weeks for an MCL injury to heal and a person to return to normal activities and sports. Generally, the timeline is determined by the severity of the injury, although this is not true for every person.

Grade I (sprain or overstretched) tears will typically heal within a few days to a week and a half
Grade II (partial or incomplete) tears may take 2 to 4 weeks to heal
Grade III (full) tears can take 4 to 8 weeks to heal
So could be back even with a grade II
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Pirate Life wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:20 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:36 pm Bottom line though, Shaq ain't coming back from a sprained ACL in 3 weeks. Not happening.
MCL recovery times depends on how severe the sprain is and the position played. Joe Flacco missed zero games with an MCL sprain about 7 or 8 years ago. Earlier this season Aaron Jones only missed two weeks with his, so entirely possible Barrett could be back by the playoffs if he has a grade I sprain.

This sports medicine site shows it can be anywhere from a few days to eight weeks depending on the severity of the sprain.

https://www.sports-health.com/sports-in ... -and-tears
t can take anywhere from a few days to 8 weeks for an MCL injury to heal and a person to return to normal activities and sports. Generally, the timeline is determined by the severity of the injury, although this is not true for every person.

Grade I (sprain or overstretched) tears will typically heal within a few days to a week and a half
Grade II (partial or incomplete) tears may take 2 to 4 weeks to heal
Grade III (full) tears can take 4 to 8 weeks to heal
So could be back even with a grade II
That's just the MCL. He also sprained the ACL according to Arians. It's hard enough coming back from 1 sprained ligament. I don't believe he's coming back from 2 sprained knee ligaments in 3 weeks.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:25 pm
Pirate Life wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:20 pm

MCL recovery times depends on how severe the sprain is and the position played. Joe Flacco missed zero games with an MCL sprain about 7 or 8 years ago. Earlier this season Aaron Jones only missed two weeks with his, so entirely possible Barrett could be back by the playoffs if he has a grade I sprain.

This sports medicine site shows it can be anywhere from a few days to eight weeks depending on the severity of the sprain.

https://www.sports-health.com/sports-in ... -and-tears



So could be back even with a grade II
That's just the MCL. He also sprained the ACL according to Arians. It's hard enough coming back from 1 sprained ligament. I don't believe he's coming back from 2 sprained knee ligaments in 3 weeks.
Missed your edit while typing up the post and double checking MCL sprains. But with an ACL sprain, it again depends on the severity. A mild one with little tearing can see a similar recovery time as a Grade II MCL sprain of 3-4 weeks.
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Pirate Life wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:35 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:25 pm

That's just the MCL. He also sprained the ACL according to Arians. It's hard enough coming back from 1 sprained ligament. I don't believe he's coming back from 2 sprained knee ligaments in 3 weeks.
Missed your edit while typing up the post and double checking MCL sprains. But with an ACL sprain, it again depends on the severity. A mild one with little tearing can see a similar recovery time as a Grade II MCL sprain of 3-4 weeks.
Exactly what I was saying. In regards to Arians comments I don't believe he comes back in 3 weeks from 2 sprained ligaments.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:42 pm
Pirate Life wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:35 pm

Missed your edit while typing up the post and double checking MCL sprains. But with an ACL sprain, it again depends on the severity. A mild one with little tearing can see a similar recovery time as a Grade II MCL sprain of 3-4 weeks.
Exactly what I was saying. In regards to Arians comments I don't believe he comes back in 3 weeks from 2 sprained ligaments.
Except it's possible he is back in three weeks if the healing time is three weeks. ;)
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Pirate Life wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:48 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:42 pm

Exactly what I was saying. In regards to Arians comments I don't believe he comes back in 3 weeks from 2 sprained ligaments.
Except it's possible he is back in three weeks if the healing time is three weeks. ;)
Not buying it but we'll see.
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We activated Breshad Perriman off the covid list.
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And placed Mike Evans on the list to take his spot
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Nano wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:03 pm And placed Mike Evans on the list to take his spot
Along with WR coach Kevin Garver. Sensing a trend here....
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:06 pm
Nano wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:03 pm And placed Mike Evans on the list to take his spot
Along with WR coach Kevin Garver. Sensing a trend here....
Wow,... we are deep into the Covid pandemic and you are just sensing a trend?
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Right on time for COVID symptoms to kick in after playing the disgusting and dirty Saints.
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ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:46 pm Right on time for COVID symptoms to kick in after playing the disgusting and dirty Saints.
Tinfoil hat engaged!

Mekhi Benton is out for NYJ
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ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:46 pm Right on time for COVID symptoms to kick in after playing the disgusting and dirty Saints.
Yea the Covid laid dormant for a week and a day, right?
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acmillis wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:56 pm
ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:46 pm Right on time for COVID symptoms to kick in after playing the disgusting and dirty Saints.
Mekhi Benton is out for NYJ
That tends to happen when you suffer a season endings knee injury in week 1....
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:03 pm
ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:46 pm Right on time for COVID symptoms to kick in after playing the disgusting and dirty Saints.
Yea the Covid laid dormant for a week and a day, right?
Takes about a week for someone to test positive for covid after being exposed. Evans positive test is right within the time period needed to test positive for covid after getting it from the disgusting Saints.
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ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:10 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:03 pm

Yea the Covid laid dormant for a week and a day, right?
Takes about a week for someone to test positive for covid after being exposed. Evans positive test is right within the time period needed to test positive for covid after getting it from the disgusting Saints.
Oh oh that's how it works? Just for NFL players, right? Has nothing to do with the Bucs player that had it BEFORE the Saints game?
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:25 pm
ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:10 pm

Takes about a week for someone to test positive for covid after being exposed. Evans positive test is right within the time period needed to test positive for covid after getting it from the disgusting Saints.
Oh oh that's how it works? Just for NFL players, right? Has nothing to do with the Bucs player that had it BEFORE the Saints game?
There's no hand grende too large that you wouldn't jump on for your closet home team Saints.

Saints has a ton of COVID cases that are taking out players on a near daily basis. We just played the Saints. About 7 or 8 days later, within the time COVID takes to show positive, we now have players getting popped for COVID. Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to crack the case.

And if Evans had it before the Saints game, he would've most certainly tested positive earlier.

He got it from the Saints. Pretty easy to see. Shouldn't you be on the Saints forums since they're your favorite team?
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ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:44 pm
King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:25 pm

Oh oh that's how it works? Just for NFL players, right? Has nothing to do with the Bucs player that had it BEFORE the Saints game?
There's no hand grende too large that you wouldn't jump on for your closet home team Saints.

Saints has a ton of COVID cases that are taking out players on a near daily basis. We just played the Saints. About 7 or 8 days later, within the time COVID takes to show positive, we now have players getting popped for COVID. Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to crack the case.

And if Evans had it before the Saints game, he would've most certainly tested positive earlier.

He got it from the Saints. Pretty easy to see. Shouldn't you be on the Saints forums since they're your favorite team?
And there's no shame you have whatsoever in embarrassing yourself. Keep it up.
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King Bootz wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:49 pm
ATrain wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:44 pm

There's no hand grende too large that you wouldn't jump on for your closet home team Saints.

Saints has a ton of COVID cases that are taking out players on a near daily basis. We just played the Saints. About 7 or 8 days later, within the time COVID takes to show positive, we now have players getting popped for COVID. Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to crack the case.

And if Evans had it before the Saints game, he would've most certainly tested positive earlier.

He got it from the Saints. Pretty easy to see. Shouldn't you be on the Saints forums since they're your favorite team?
And there's no shame you have whatsoever in embarrassing yourself. Keep it up.
I think maybe you've had too many shots of Barbicide today because you're picking a fight with a guy that routinely bodies you on here in between paying claims.

Stay in your lane kiddo, maybe oil your clippers or masturbate to Saints highlights. You don't belong on a Bucs board. Haven't for a very long time.
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I'm guessing Mike would be eligible for return
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