2022 HOF nominations

[IronDog]

Well, I see that Barber has been nominated again, for the 5th time in as many years of eligibility (crimony that's a lot of i's). Will he "go all the way" this time?

https://www.buccaneers.com/news/ronde-barber-named-2022-pro-football-hall-of-fame-semifinalist

Ronde Barber Named Hall of Fame Semifinalist for Fifth Straight Year

[Snake]

If Lynch got in, Barber should get in. He was better.

[Redrum]

This should be the year.

[MJW]

If Lynch got in, Barber should get in. He was better.

I have no idea how anyone can argue this point, especially Buccaneers fans.

Love Lynch. But him getting in before Ronde had to be due to his strong political connections around the league and with the media. Lynch was a damn good safety and a great dude. Barber literally changed how defensive backs are scouted and the way coaches approach the Nickel Back position.

[MJW]

Also...there's this:

Safety A:

178 Games
59 Splash Plays (INT, Sack, FF, FR, Def TD)
967 Tackles

Safety B:

224 Games
64 Splash Plays
1059 Tackles

Safety C:

181 Games
85 Splash Plays
889 Tackles

Darren Woodson is the first guy, Lynch is the second guy, LeRoy Butler is the third guy. Woodson's numbers are a tick below Lynch's, but Lynch played in almost 3 seasons longer than Woodson did. With Butler it's even more glaring. Lynch played in 43 more games than Butler did, but Butler had 21 more splash plays in his career. Lynch is the only one of these three in the HOF.

[Xandtar]

I'm saying the same thing this year as I did last year... all the other talk about, "hey they heard two weeks before the announcement that they were in", ya sure for some, but the single best way for Barber to wear a yellow jacket is for the Bucs to make it into the Super Bowl again. The Hall voters love to bring out a new HoF'er when the teams take the field on Super Bowl Sunday. It worked for Ricky Jackson and with Lynch in, it will work for Barber. If the Bucs don't get there, some other favorite of a team that got to the big game will get that slot.

[Nano]

Ronde Barber Named a Finalist for 2022 Hall of Fame Class. Could this finally be the year?

[Nobody]

Also...there's this:

Safety A:

178 Games
59 Splash Plays (INT, Sack, FF, FR, Def TD)
967 Tackles

Safety B:

224 Games
64 Splash Plays
1059 Tackles

Safety C:

181 Games
85 Splash Plays
889 Tackles

Darren Woodson is the first guy, Lynch is the second guy, LeRoy Butler is the third guy. Woodson's numbers are a tick below Lynch's, but Lynch played in almost 3 seasons longer than Woodson did. With Butler it's even more glaring. Lynch played in 43 more games than Butler did, but Butler had 21 more splash plays in his career. Lynch is the only one of these three in the HOF.

And speaking of Ronde Barber and his 1 year at Safety in his final year of his Career. Let us cleverly call him "Safety D":

16 Games
#10 ranked PFF Coverage
68.8 Passer Rating against
4 Ints
25 (!) Stops (Tackles that constitute a Play Loss for the opposing team) in Pass Coverage. This was #1 in the NFL by a WIDE margin (17 was #2)
19 Stops in Run Game
44 Combined Stops leads the league (Berry #2 Safety was 43) and #3 is well behind and #4 is miles behind.
11 Pressures on Blitz (#3 Safety), 1 Sack, 1 FF
92 Tackles (71 Solo)

Basically...

Ronde Barber was a Hall of Fame level Safety...in his 1 year playing Safety...which was his final year of the league.

Sports writers and NFL fans around the league need to be more embarrassingly clueless. The human capacity to register the signal of high amplitude effects (like players that run fast and go boom...in both senses of the word) but completely miss guys who are incredibly assignment sound yet still stupid play-makers (because their instincts their study/passion and their athletic profile marry to make an incredible football player) is the abatross around the neck of Ronde and Lavonte; two lock HoF players but aren't cosmetically loud (in the ways you need to be loud to get noticed).

[Xandtar]

Well instead of talking about a hypothetical HOFer, let's discuss 2022 FINALISTS, shall we?

Yes, Barber is now a Finalist. Again. And THIS time, he actually has a decent shot because at a quick glance, he's the only CB left standing for 2022. Looking a little deeper one safety remains with him, and that the only one from Green Bay. I'd guess whichever team gets to LA, either Green Bay or Tampa Bay, their defensive back gets in and the other one misses the cut. The Cardinals are notable by the absence of any player on the finalists, but it happens that way sometimes.

The rest of the field is interesting... zero quarterbacks, zero running backs, zero tight ends, on offense you have wideouts and OL choices. Defensive linemen, linebackers, and one special teamer make up the rest. Main career team for each strongly reflects the likely playoff teams as of the end of December.

And with that, this Covidy casual fan will turn discussion over to the experts of the forums.



https://www.nfl.com/news/finalists-for- ... 2-revealed

[Cheb]

My top votes in alphabetical order would be for Ronde Barber, Devin Hester, and DeMarcus Ware.

After that, it gets more murky for me. Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne would be close for me, but I think their cases are a bit weak.

It's still a five-man class, right?

[King Bootz]

My top votes in alphabetical order would be for Ronde Barber, Devin Hester, and DeMarcus Ware.

After that, it gets more murky for me. Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne would be close for me, but I think their cases are a bit weak.

It's still a five-man class, right?

Agree on the top 3.

Both Wayne and Johnson are a no for me.

The Niners fan in me is rooting hard for Young and especially Willis.

[Snake]

Patrick Willis only played 8 seasons. It was more like 7 because his 8th season was over after 6 games.

He was a pro bowler those 7 seasons. 5x all pro.

Off ball LB: 8 INTs. 16 FFs. 20.5 sacks. 60 TFLs.

The man was a beast. Damn injuries. I remember him annihilating people at Ole Miss wearing a hand cast.

[Kress]

Vegas odds:

DeMarcus Ware -175
Torry Holt -125
Devin Hester -115
Tony Bosselli +105
Richard Seymour +150
Reggie Wayne +200
Robert Mathis +200
Zach Thomas +225
Jared Allen +250
LeRoy Butler +250
Andre Johnson +300
Ronde Barber +500
Steve Smith +700
Asante Samuel +850
Anquan Boldin +1000
Vince Wilfork +1000
Darren Woodson +1400
Steve Tasker +1400

[Kress]

I don't agree with Vegas at all. But, it normally does not end will for people who disagree with Vegas.

[King Bootz]

Patrick Willis only played 8 seasons. It was more like 7 because his 8th season was over after 6 games.

He was a pro bowler those 7 seasons. 5x all pro.

Off ball LB: 8 INTs. 16 FFs. 20.5 sacks. 60 TFLs.

The man was a beast. Damn injuries. I remember him annihilating people at Ole Miss wearing a hand cast.

If they win that SB against Baltimore, he'd be in no question IMO.

He & Navarro Bowman were what we all think LVD & DW are.

[Snake]

Yeah, they know what they’re talking about. I just don’t agree with it.

[Snake]

[Kress]

I guess if I were to pick 5:

Ware
Hester
Seymour
Allen
Barber


Not necessarily in that order, I just used the Vegas list and deleted names as I went down.

[King Bootz]

Surprised Ware & Hester didn't make it.

[Dread]

Leroy Butler before Ronde? I know he's waited longer but I don't know about that.

Ronde has to be right on the doorstep

[MJW]

Leroy Butler before Ronde? I know he's waited longer but I don't know about that.

Ronde has to be right on the doorstep

It makes no sense to me, but he should get in next year. The only locks are Joe Thomas, Dwight Freeney, and Darrelle Revis. James Harrison is a maybe for first year induction as well. Shane Lechler and Jahri Evans should get in, but not first ballot.

[Xandtar]

The Rams and our DC cost Barber a yellow jacket, or so I believe. We had to get back in.

Oh well. The Old-Timers will get him in sometime before 2050.

But if he was going to get in the regular way, this was the year. The field of finalists was the weakest I've ever seen.

[MJW]

The Rams and our DC cost Barber a yellow jacket, or so I believe. We had to get back in.

Oh well. The Old-Timers will get him in sometime before 2050.

But if he was going to get in the regular way, this was the year. The field of finalists was the weakest I've ever seen.

Next year isn't great either. I count 3 guys who'll get in - Joe Thomas (Mortal Lock), Darrelle Revis (Mortal Lock), and Dwight Freeney (Almost certain.) There's also James Harrison, who could go either way. Either Barber or Zach Thomas will get in next class IMHO.

[uscbucsfan]

Leroy Butler before Ronde? I know he's waited longer but I don't know about that.

Ronde has to be right on the doorstep

It makes no sense to me, but he should get in next year. The only locks are Joe Thomas, Dwight Freeney, and Darrelle Revis. James Harrison is a maybe for first year induction as well. Shane Lechler and Jahri Evans should get in, but not first ballot.

I think Hester gets in next year, too.

Makes for a crowded class next year.

[Swashbuckler]

Ronde waits longer so guys who waited a long time get in.



Seems legit bro

[Kona]

That’s the weakest class I’ve ever seen

[Nano]

It makes no sense to me, but he should get in next year. The only locks are Joe Thomas, Dwight Freeney, and Darrelle Revis. James Harrison is a maybe for first year induction as well. Shane Lechler and Jahri Evans should get in, but not first ballot.

I think Hester gets in next year, too.

Makes for a crowded class next year.

I imagine that DeMarcus Ware has a great chance of making it in next year too. Honestly should've made it this year.