Playoff Positioning: Where we Stand.

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Exiting the Bye week here are the standings in the NFC.
Cards 8-1
Packers 7-2
Bucs 6-2
Cowboys 6-2
Rams 7-2
Saints 5-3
Falcons 4-4
Panthers 4-5
Vikings 3-5
Seahawks 3-5
Niners 3-5
Bears 3-5
Eagles 3-5
Giants 3-5
WFT 2-6
Lions 0-8

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If we're not the 1 or 2... it's a bad end of the season for us.
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:55 am
If we're not the 1 or 2... it's a bad end of the season for us.
I don't see how winning a Super Bowl is a bad end of a season for us.
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CannonFire wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:57 am
BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:55 am
If we're not the 1 or 2... it's a bad end of the season for us.
I don't see how winning a Super Bowl is a bad end of a season for us.
Just looking at the SOS of the remaining teams... We have one of the best chances to get the 1.

If we fail to win these games, it means we faltered down the stretch. Something we did not do last year. We DOMINATED teams after the bye week.

We need to be healthy to have this sort of domination though.
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:00 am
CannonFire wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:57 am

I don't see how winning a Super Bowl is a bad end of a season for us.
Just looking at the SOS of the remaining teams... We have one of the best chances to get the 1.

If we fail to win these games, it means we faltered down the stretch. Something we did not do last year. We DOMINATED teams after the bye week.

We need to be healthy to have this sort of domination though.
Drama much? We had 4 games last year after the bye week, this year we have 9. Odds are, we're going to lose at least 1 game (Buffalo?), maybe 2 (Saints?). Considering they're both at home, they should win both. Might even lose the game in Indy. We might finish the season 12-5. So what?

The Rams, Cardinals, Seahwaks (who are currently only 1 game out of the playoffs), Cowboys, & Packers... even the Saints, still have games against each other. Not to mention the fact that some still have the Chiefs, Titans, Raiders, and even Vikings still to play. They're going to lose games and be in dog fights just like us. So what if two or three of them have a better record? Last year we went into Washington and won. Went into New Orleans and won. Went into Green Bay and won. Then played the Chiefs, who put up 21 points in the first Q on us earlier in the season and the game was over, and we beat them. Now, you're scared if we have to play teams just as good this year? Come on.

LOL, we dominated the Falcons (twice), Lions without a coaching staff, and beat the Vikings (sarcasm). Yeah, real hard!! We didn't dominate in the playoffs either. The game against the Redskins was tight... as was the Green Bay and New Orleans games. Yeah, we killed KC, great. That really was the only great game we played, to wit you could call "domination", in the final 8 games. You're over selling our success last year and under selling our ability this year.
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WFT has lost 4 straight and their defense just hasn't been good this season like was supposed to be. Plus Monteaz Sweat is out a few weeks now.

Giants are a sneaky team. Saquan should be back for the MNF game at RayJay in 2 weeks. They have Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence up front that can disrupt the middle of the pocket and cause problems for an immobile QB.

Colts secondary is terrible. We should outscore them, even if they are talented enough to make close.

Bills are legit despite the loss to Jacksonville. It's at RayJay which gives the Bucs an edge

Saints are going to crumble down the stretch. Good defense, but it's been smoke and mirrors on offense and that won't sustain.

Panthers have Darnold, who sucks.
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Only thing that matters is what we do. Does not matter who has who, it's will we win like the World Champions we are?
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We don't need the number one seed to have a successful season. Case in point, last year's Lombardi Trophy.
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:55 am If we're not the 1 or 2... it's a bad end of the season for us.
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2 seed doesn't mean as much anymore anyway. They no longer get a bye.
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Cheb wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:41 am We don't need the number one seed to have a successful season. Case in point, last year's Lombardi Trophy.
I agree to an extent. No/limited fans last season made going into New Orleans and Green Bay an easier task. Especially considering our troubles on the road this season where we commit alot of penalties
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Saying that seeding doesn't matter is asinine. Just look at the list in the OP. If the playoffs started this week, the difference between the #2 and #4 seed is hosting Atlanta vs hosting the Rams. The #2 seed also guarantees two home playoff games.

Yes, the #2 seed matters even if you don't get a bye anymore.

Why this has to be explained on here is beyond me.
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If the playoffs started this week, seeding would be fucked up because teams haven't played the same number of games. So fuck right off lugz. You're not explaining shit to anyone.
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You really are a stupid stupid human being that's beyond help. I tried. I did. I really tried.

Dig in on your incorrect position if you wish. You're a horse that's been led to water and now I'm going to snicker as you choose to die of thirst.
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Dread wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:20 am WFT has lost 4 straight and their defense just hasn't been good this season like was supposed to be. Plus Monteaz Sweat is out a few weeks now.

Giants are a sneaky team. Saquan should be back for the MNF game at RayJay in 2 weeks. They have Leonard Williams and Dexter Lawrence up front that can disrupt the middle of the pocket and cause problems for an immobile QB.

Colts secondary is terrible. We should outscore them, even if they are talented enough to make close.

Bills are legit despite the loss to Jacksonville. It's at RayJay which gives the Bucs an edge

Saints are going to crumble down the stretch. Good defense, but it's been smoke and mirrors on offense and that won't sustain.

Panthers have Darnold, who sucks.


Please no pep talk this week, we need to win this one.
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ATrain wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:56 am You really are a stupid stupid human being that's beyond help. I tried. I did. I really tried.

Dig in on your incorrect position if you wish. You're a horse that's been led to water and now I'm going to snicker as you choose to die of thirst.
My incorrect position that the 2 seed doesn't get the bye? That as of today the playoff teams have played amount of games? Which of these positions is incorrect?
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I wish we caught Buffalo here during their struggles.
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Central_Buc wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:11 am I wish we caught Buffalo here during their struggles.
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:00 am If we fail to win these games, it means we faltered down the stretch. Something we did not do last year. We DOMINATED teams after the bye week.
Let's see. They played half assed against Minnesota and allowed Dalvin to run all over the place. They were down 17-0 at the half in Atlanta to a 4 win Falcons squad. They beat the crap outta Detroit, but then they were dominating Atlanta at home in the final game and let them back in it.

Then come the playoffs, they let the Redskins and that little scrub Heineke keep the game close. Knocking Heineke out for a spell turned out to be the game winner because he was getting his licks in up until that point.

New Orleans was on track to put the playoff game away until the fumble on the reception. That one play totally turned the game around.

Green Bay, they had them on the ropes and let them back in it in the second half.

They caught some good fortune in nearly every single game during that Super Bowl run. The only two games they truly dominated were Detroit and KC in the Super Bowl.
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Defense5599 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:37 am
BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:00 am If we fail to win these games, it means we faltered down the stretch. Something we did not do last year. We DOMINATED teams after the bye week.
Let's see. They played half assed against Minnesota and allowed Dalvin to run all over the place. They were down 17-0 at the half in Atlanta to a 4 win Falcons squad. They beat the crap outta Detroit, but then they were dominating Atlanta at home in the final game and let them back in it.

Then come the playoffs, they let the Redskins and that little scrub Heineke keep the game close. Knocking Heineke out for a spell turned out to be the game winner because he was getting his licks in up until that point.

New Orleans was on track to put the playoff game away until the fumble on the reception. That one play totally turned the game around.

Green Bay, they had them on the ropes and let them back in it in the second half.

They caught some good fortune in nearly every single game during that Super Bowl run. The only two games they truly dominated were Detroit and KC in the Super Bowl.
This is a reasonable take.

We did what we needed to do off the bye. We beat a string of less talented teams, but we gave almost all of them a chance to win those games. In some cases we needed huge comebacks to make that happen. We trucked Detroit, who had already 100% given up on the season, and the Superbowl was our most dominant game of the season (amen.) But the idea we were a juggernaut? Not really. We found ways to win, and that's fine. I'll be perfectly happy if we do the same thing this season. But TBH with these injuries, not sure it's going to work out like that.
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The next four games are must win. We got extremely lucky over the bye when the embarrassing loss to the Saints didn't end up costing us that much

But after these next four games we have back to back games vs the Bills and Saints. We can't afford to drop a game to an inferior opponent and the race in the NFC and even the NFC south is far too tight to not take care of business.

Hell the Saints game could be for the division title if they keep winning.
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The next four games are quite literally not must wins.
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If you're content with underachieving and greatly diminishing the chance at the #1 seed, then sure, they're not nust wins.

I guess some of us are done with rationalizing mediocrity.
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ATrain wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:28 am If you're content with underachieving and greatly diminishing the chance at the #1 seed, then sure, they're not nust wins.

I guess some of us are done with rationalizing mediocrity.
I’m glad they hand out the Lombardi to the number one seed and teams don’t even play playoff games…

I’ve been staunch that we need to win the next couple games, but they’re not MUST wins. As long as we keep that competitive stamina going and guys stay relatively healthy… we’re in good shape. Hell Tom is leading the league in TDs and the offense really hasn’t been full power yet.
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ATrain wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:28 am If you're content with underachieving and greatly diminishing the chance at the #1 seed, then sure, they're not nust wins.

I guess some of us are done with rationalizing mediocrity.
So 30 teams are rationalizing mediocrity because they won’t have the #1 seed then?
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CannonFire wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:13 am
BJJ34 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:00 am

Just looking at the SOS of the remaining teams... We have one of the best chances to get the 1.

If we fail to win these games, it means we faltered down the stretch. Something we did not do last year. We DOMINATED teams after the bye week.

We need to be healthy to have this sort of domination though.
Drama much? We had 4 games last year after the bye week, this year we have 9. Odds are, we're going to lose at least 1 game (Buffalo?), maybe 2 (Saints?). Considering they're both at home, they should win both. Might even lose the game in Indy. We might finish the season 12-5. So what?

The Rams, Cardinals, Seahwaks (who are currently only 1 game out of the playoffs), Cowboys, & Packers... even the Saints, still have games against each other. Not to mention the fact that some still have the Chiefs, Titans, Raiders, and even Vikings still to play. They're going to lose games and be in dog fights just like us. So what if two or three of them have a better record? Last year we went into Washington and won. Went into New Orleans and won. Went into Green Bay and won. Then played the Chiefs, who put up 21 points in the first Q on us earlier in the season and the game was over, and we beat them. Now, you're scared if we have to play teams just as good this year? Come on.

LOL, we dominated the Falcons (twice), Lions without a coaching staff, and beat the Vikings (sarcasm). Yeah, real hard!! We didn't dominate in the playoffs either. The game against the Redskins was tight... as was the Green Bay and New Orleans games. Yeah, we killed KC, great. That really was the only great game we played, to wit you could call "domination", in the final 8 games. You're over selling our success last year and under selling our ability this year.

Er... the Wildcard game against Washington was a home game broseph.
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ATrain wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:28 am If you're content with underachieving and greatly diminishing the chance at the #1 seed, then sure, they're not nust wins.

I guess some of us are done with rationalizing mediocrity.
Do you honestly feel that 'rationalizing mediocrity' is something to be concerned about for a Tom Brady led team?
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The Outsider wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:38 am
CannonFire wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:13 am

Drama much? We had 4 games last year after the bye week, this year we have 9. Odds are, we're going to lose at least 1 game (Buffalo?), maybe 2 (Saints?). Considering they're both at home, they should win both. Might even lose the game in Indy. We might finish the season 12-5. So what?

The Rams, Cardinals, Seahwaks (who are currently only 1 game out of the playoffs), Cowboys, & Packers... even the Saints, still have games against each other. Not to mention the fact that some still have the Chiefs, Titans, Raiders, and even Vikings still to play. They're going to lose games and be in dog fights just like us. So what if two or three of them have a better record? Last year we went into Washington and won. Went into New Orleans and won. Went into Green Bay and won. Then played the Chiefs, who put up 21 points in the first Q on us earlier in the season and the game was over, and we beat them. Now, you're scared if we have to play teams just as good this year? Come on.

LOL, we dominated the Falcons (twice), Lions without a coaching staff, and beat the Vikings (sarcasm). Yeah, real hard!! We didn't dominate in the playoffs either. The game against the Redskins was tight... as was the Green Bay and New Orleans games. Yeah, we killed KC, great. That really was the only great game we played, to wit you could call "domination", in the final 8 games. You're over selling our success last year and under selling our ability this year.

Er... the Wildcard game against Washington was a home game broseph.
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Dread wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:01 pm
The Outsider wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:38 am


Er... the Wildcard game against Washington was a home game broseph.
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Cards 8-2
Packers 8-2
Cowboys 7-2
Bucs 6-3
Rams 7-2
Saints 5-4
Panthers 5-5
Falcons 4-5
Vikings 4-5
Eagles 4-5
Seahawks 3-6
Niners 3-5
Bears 3-5
Giants 3-6
WFT 3-6
Lions 0-8-1

Rams and Niners still to play, that's looking like a huge win for the Rams. We would be playing the Rams at Home right now in a rematch of that game.

We're only a game up on the Saints. 1.5 up on the Panthers and 2 up on the Falcons with 4 more division games to play.

Hopefully the wake up call we needed was this week.

Upcoming Opponents:
Cards: @Seahawks 4:25 PM
Packers: @Vikings 1PM
Cowboys: @Chiefs 4:25 PM
Bucs: MNF Vs. Giants 8:15 pm
Rams: BYE
Saints: @Eagles 1PM
Panthers: Vs WFT 1PM
Falcons: Thurs Vs NE 8:20 PM
Eagles 4-5 Vs. Saints 1 PM
Vikings 4-5 Vs. Packers
Seahawks 3-6 Vs. Cards
Niners 3-5 @Jags 1PM
Bears 3-5 Vs. Ravens 1PM
Giants 3-6 MNF @ Bucs 8:15 PM
WFT 3-6 @ Panthers 1 PM
Lions 0-8-1 @Browns(PUT YOUR HOUSE ON THE BROWNS)
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I'm still not too worried. As long as the team gets healthy for the playoffs I honestly think it doesn't fucking matter what seed we are.
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I'm still not sold on the Cards as one of the elite. Or Dallas for that matter.

Then again, or the Bucs.
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Kress wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:44 pm I'm still not sold on the Cards as one of the elite. Or Dallas for that matter.

Then again, or the Bucs.
If we had a defense I think we could make some noise. If the defense continues to be utterly worthless, we're not going anywhere. I think somebody in the front office needs to have a long talk with Bowles and suggest strongly, as in give him no choice, that he change things up and stop doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Even playing backups in the secondary, there is no excuse to give up 29 to the WFT, nor is there an excuse to allow them to go 10 of 19 on third down, or execute a 19-play drive to ice away the game.
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Cards 9-2 BYE
Packers 8-3 vs Rams 4:25 Fox
Bucs 7-3 @ Colts Sunday 1:00 CBS
Cowboys 7-3 Vs. Raiders Thursday 4:30 CBS
Rams 7-3 @ Packers 4:25 Fox
Vikings 5-5 @ Niners 4:25 Fox
Saints 5-5 vs. Bills Thursday 8:20 NBC
9ers 5-5 vs Vikings 4:25 Fox
Eagles 5-6 @ Giants 1:00 Fox
Panthers 5-6 @ Dolphins 1:00 Fox
WFT 4-6 vs Seahawks MNF 8:15 ESPN
Falcons 4-6 @ Jags 1:00 Fox
Giants 3-7 vs Eagles 1:00 Fox
Bears 3-7 @ Lions Thursday. 12:30 Fox
Seahawks 3-7 @ WFT MNF 8:15 ESPN
Lions 0-9-1 vs. Bears Thursday 12:30 Fox


Big game against the Colts but it's an out of conference opponent so if we lose it's not a killer. Not sure who I'm rooting for in that Packers/Rams game. If the Cards stumble, I would rather not play the Rams at any point.
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Bring on the fucking Rams! No need to be scared of any team. If you are, then our team doesn't even belong on the field this postseason.
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