***Official 2025 Draft thread***

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Bootz wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:11 pm Goedeke is in a contract year. We might extend him or let him walk. Either way, I'd try to draft one of these OTs. We really have relied on the worst of the worst in terms of OL depth and its cost us at times.
I think that letting Goedeke walk would be a huge mistake. He's one of the better RTs in football, imo, a borderline Pro Bowler.

If we didn't resign him at marker value, that's a huge mistake.

But yeah, a developmental tackle would be wise.
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Cheb wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:40 pm
Bootz wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:11 pm Goedeke is in a contract year. We might extend him or let him walk. Either way, I'd try to draft one of these OTs. We really have relied on the worst of the worst in terms of OL depth and its cost us at times.
I think that letting Goedeke walk would be a huge mistake. He's one of the better RTs in football, imo, a borderline Pro Bowler.

If we didn't resign him at marker value, that's a huge mistake.

But yeah, a developmental tackle would be wise.
I'm with you. Just saying, at the end of the day, this is a business. It would be wise to prepare for as many outcomes as possible. And we don't have anything behind Wirfs & Goedeke.
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I love adding another tackle but not because we’re preparing to let Goedeke walk.
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My God, people can't see the forest for the trees.

POINT BEING, Goedeke's presence shouldn't stop us from adding OT depth early in the draft. Wirfs either. BUT in the event Goedeke isn't retained, we would be better prepared.
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Bootz wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:49 pm My God, people can't see the forest for the trees.

POINT BEING, Goedeke's presence shouldn't stop us from adding OT depth early in the draft. Wirfs either. BUT in the event Goedeke isn't retained, we would be better prepared.


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If William Gholston is done, who would you replace him with?
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Bootz spoke
Cheb agreed
Bootz added the word early
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I think all teams have done an indepth study on the IDL's that will be available in the 2026 draft.
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Bootz wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:49 pm My God, people can't see the forest for the trees.

POINT BEING, Goedeke's presence shouldn't stop us from adding OT depth early in the draft. Wirfs either. BUT in the event Goedeke isn't retained, we would be better prepared.
We both agreed with you.

Tackle depth and Goedeke staying aren’t mutually exclusive.

Assuming he wants to be here he will be.
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Make your case.


Who is a better coverage LB than Jackson Woodard?
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mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:42 am Make your case.


Who is a better coverage LB than Jackson Woodard?
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This is my UDFA linebacker, where's yours.

Make your case.


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mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:23 am If William Gholston is done, who would you replace him with?
Take your pick. He is done.

Gholston played only 202 snaps(18%) last season and it would've been even less had Kancey not missed the 1st 5 games. He is a non factor when he is in the field and not missed when he isn't.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:31 am
mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:23 am If William Gholston is done, who would you replace him with?
Take your pick. He is done.

Gholston played only 202 snaps(18%) last season and it would've been even less had Kancey not missed the 1st 5 games. He is a non factor when he is in the field and not missed when he isn't.
If you even pay half attention to my sims you know I already have, all that's left is to get someone else to offer up an opinion.
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mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:43 am
Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:31 am

Take your pick. He is done.

Gholston played only 202 snaps(18%) last season and it would've been even less had Kancey not missed the 1st 5 games. He is a non factor when he is in the field and not missed when he isn't.
If you even pay half attention to my sims you know I already have, all that's left is to get someone else to offer up an opinion.
I have a little trouble following your sims because I don't think it's particularly realistic the way you operate them with the multiple trade downs and what not.
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Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:44 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:43 am

If you even pay half attention to my sims you know I already have, all that's left is to get someone else to offer up an opinion.
I have a little trouble following your sims because I don't think it's particularly realistic the way you operate them with the multiple trade downs and what not.
Go to profootball network and try to do as many tradedowns without losing all of the players you want.
Sometimes when I go from pick 19 to pick 32 I've traded down 3 or 4 times.

No matter what they are offering I almost never give up 2 picks to take their offer, if they offer a next year pick I try to give me something this year. I usually work with the pick that is closest to mine, if the algo's are crappy I just hit restart.
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If only real life worked that way. I'd trade down 3 times to 32 in this draft!
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Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:04 pm If only real life worked that way. I'd trade down 3 times to 32 in this draft!
Right. That’s my issue. It’s not realistic so I don’t really understand the appeal.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:04 pm If only real life worked that way. I'd trade down 3 times to 32 in this draft!
Then do one with no trades.
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Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:30 pm
Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:04 pm If only real life worked that way. I'd trade down 3 times to 32 in this draft!
Right. That’s my issue. It’s not realistic so I don’t really understand the appeal.
It's a robot, it will make the playoff teams get great draft picks. What's real is I'm writing the prospects names ahead of time while you are not - even if they go to other teams. I will do a sim and say damn there are 5 picks I liked in the 5th, 6 in the 6th, and 5 in the 7th.

If you like I'll do a sim and list them.
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mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:02 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:30 pm

Right. That’s my issue. It’s not realistic so I don’t really understand the appeal.
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At Doc, buried under thousands of posts - "I like him".

Ole Doc wouldnt even use the name someone posted eight posts back and now spends the next four years railing.
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mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:02 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:30 pm

Right. That’s my issue. It’s not realistic so I don’t really understand the appeal.
It's a robot, it will make the playoff teams get great draft picks. What's real is I'm writing the prospects names ahead of time while you are not - even if they go to other teams. I will do a sim and say damn there are 5 picks I liked in the 5th, 6 in the 6th, and 5 in the 7th.

If you like I'll do a sim and list them.
I’m sure it’s a fun exercise for you. I just don’t see the value in it.
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Grahamburn wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:23 am
mdb1958 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:02 pm

It's a robot, it will make the playoff teams get great draft picks. What's real is I'm writing the prospects names ahead of time while you are not - even if they go to other teams. I will do a sim and say damn there are 5 picks I liked in the 5th, 6 in the 6th, and 5 in the 7th.

If you like I'll do a sim and list them.
I’m sure it’s a fun exercise for you. I just don’t see the value in it.
Ok, you were part of the group before you told me this.
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@Grahamburn

Would you pass on Jahdae Barron for 2 picks - Darien Porter CB and Darius Alexander DL3T?

Who would be your other 2nd rounder?
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:38 am
Grahamburn wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:23 am

I’m sure it’s a fun exercise for you. I just don’t see the value in it.
Ok, you were part of the group before you told me this.
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:16 am @Grahamburn

Would you pass on Jahdae Barron for 2 picks - Darien Porter CB and Darius Alexander DL3T?

Who would be your other 2nd rounder?
I lean more quality over quantity.

I like Barron and think he fits into this defense perfectly.

If we get Mack I’d take him with the 19th pick.
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Who is Mack, the prospect WR that Draftbuzz has ranked #1 right now?
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Khalil Mack, the edge from the chargers.
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:34 pm Who is Mack, the prospect WR that Draftbuzz has ranked #1 right now?
Sorry. Yes, @Obsolete is correct.

If we sign Khalil Mack in free agency I’d target Barron with the 19th pick.

Then maybe Princely Umanmielen or Nic Scourton fall to round 2 and we can get one of them with the #53? Then address iLB at #84 with Demetrius Knight, Barrett Carter, or Carson Schwesinger.
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Barron is considered a versatile defensive back who can play multiple positions. Some say he's the most multifaceted defensive back in his draft class. Barron consistently played multiple positions in the Texas defensive backfield.
Sound like Travis Hunter lite. Sign me up
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Even Licht has multiple back up plans.
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CBS sports has Barron ranked 35th
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:30 pm CBS sports has Barron ranked 35th
They’re wrong.
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I think I've done 1 sim picking Emmanwori, I really wonder how good he's going to be. We could eventually move him to LB.
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