2025 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Offseason Thread

[Grahamburn]

Trask me! @acmillis

[Bootz]

We have our corner

[Miller4Prez64]

Lions fans celebrating this dude being gone, sounds like a trash can.

[Bootz]

Lions fans celebrating this dude being gone, sounds like a trash can.

Yea I would agree. Contract confirms as much

[acmillis]

Trask me! @acmillis

Soooperbooowelll!!!11one!!1

I like the signing, obviously for the simple reason that he's familiar with everything TB, and it's a league minimum deal. Now, we'll have to see if, like Coen's system, if anyone can be successful in Griz's system should Trask have to step up

[BuccaNOLEer]

We have our corner

He's a backup at best. Plus we need more than one guy in the secondary.

[Grahamburn]

Trask me! @acmillis

Soooperbooowelll!!!11one!!1

I like the signing, obviously for the simple reason that he's familiar with everything TB, and it's a league minimum deal. Now, we'll have to see if, like Coen's system, if anyone can be successful in Griz's system should Trask have to step up

Any QB could do it.

[Grahamburn]

Kindle Vildor is a badass name.

[mdb1958]

A joyful day it would be if I could get all of you to talk about the fifth round.

[Bootz]

Tuh. Walker is worse than Britt.

[BJJ34]

KJ Britt is no longer a Buc.

Anthony Walker Jr has replaced him.

[Grahamburn]

Anthony Walker Jr. is a pretty boring name.

[BuccaNOLEer]

We play the Dolphins in Miami this year. Inside info trading going on there.

[GreatTimes]

Anthony Walker Jr. is a pretty boring name.

Should change his first name to "Sky."

[Redrum]

Walker is an improvement in pass defense but he gets injured a lot.

[Cheb]

I like the signings of both Kindle Vildor and Anthony Walker Jr. Neither is going to save our defense, but they add veteran depth and 100+ NFL starts between them.

I especially like Anthony Walker, who has a decent shot at taking a starting job in the middle of the defense for us. His average stats extrapolated out to a 17-game season is 100 tackles, 4 TFLs, a pick, and a forced fumble. If he can stay healthy, he might be a solid-if-unspectacular free agent signing.

I'm a bit more leery of Vildor, but he isn't here to start, he's here to add depth and veteran special teams snaps, which is what he'll be doing for us. I expect Kindle will only pressed into defensive duty in urgent need. Still, having a backup corner with 22 career starts isn't nothing.

Good teams need veteran depth signings like this, and I'm glad we made them.

[mdb1958]

They are part of the 90 to go to camp. Some we brought in last year might be judged wrecked and I expect more UDFA's.

[Bootz]

[Miller4Prez64]

Walker just seems like an older, more injury prone version of Britt. Lateral move is being nice, but it’s nothing worth freaking over. We need to draft some LBs regardless of FA.

[Grahamburn]

I don’t think he’s our Zack Baun.

Gotta have the depth. Pro’s pros. Lunch pail guys. Enter your cliches here.

The potential starters are in the draft.

[IchabodCrane84]

Devin White's available

[Grahamburn]

Devin White's available

I think you’re joking but I Wouldn’t hate it! It’s funny how the likely minimal contract and lack of draft pick capital can change the outlook on things.

Can’t see it though. Think he nuked his bridges here.

[Four Verticals]

I like the signings of both Kindle Vildor and Anthony Walker Jr. Neither is going to save our defense, but they add veteran depth and 100+ NFL starts between them.

I especially like Anthony Walker, who has a decent shot at taking a starting job in the middle of the defense for us. His average stats extrapolated out to a 17-game season is 100 tackles, 4 TFLs, a pick, and a forced fumble. If he can stay healthy, he might be a solid-if-unspectacular free agent signing.

I'm a bit more leery of Vildor, but he isn't here to start, he's here to add depth and veteran special teams snaps, which is what he'll be doing for us. I expect Kindle will only pressed into defensive duty in urgent need. Still, having a backup corner with 22 career starts isn't nothing.

Good teams need veteran depth signings like this, and I'm glad we made them.

Vildor is replacing Thomas who signed with the Dolphins, I think. In terms of CB play he's better than Thomas and can be a key ST player. I might also be better than Thomas as a CB as well.

Agree with the overall point.

[Four Verticals]

Devin White's available

I think you’re joking but I Wouldn’t hate it! It’s funny how the likely minimal contract and lack of draft pick capital can change the outlook on things.

Can’t see it though. Think he nuked his bridges here.

The nuking seems to be in multiple places.

[Grahamburn]

Could we figure out how to use Isaiah Simmons?

[CannonFire]

Licht isn't known for being very aggressive in free agency, so if we kicked the tires, I don't think we kicked very hard.

Bosa is safer. Reddick had a hissy fit and barely tried... and stunk. If you think that the Chiefs willingness to trade Thuney should be a sign, the Eagles willing to trade Reddick should be as well. Reddick had a PFF rank of 163, Bosa was 90th. Bosa went to a Super Bowl contender, we know players take less to go to better teams. Now, Bosa is an injury risk, but I'd rather upgrade with Bosa and still draft an EDGE rusher (even in R1), then Reddick because I believe the ceiling is higher.

Thuney graded out as the 12th best guard last year (according to PFF... no, they're not the be-all-end-all, but they're a resource). Bredenson was 93rd. Thuney is also has 1 year left on his deal. I'd rather have Thuney than Bredeson, knowing I have an upgrade and a potential re-up and still be inclined to draft a guard to learn. Keeping Bredeson for 3 years, makes us less inclined to draft his replacement.

Bosa wanted to go play with his brother. We had zero chance of ever signing him.

Ok. Does that mean ever other defensive pass rusher wouldn't/couldn't come here either? I was just rattling off names that I knew off the top of my head, I'm willing to bet there's more.

[CannonFire]

Not this year.

I kinda get this one. I kinda don’t. He knows the playbook, Baker is comfy with him. I get that that’s important.

But, he sucks. And yes, backup QBs suck as a general rule. But couldn’t the Bucs find a more established commodity, who sucks a bit less? Or provides a single positive skill/attribute on the field?

It's definitely a waste of $1.8M (plus or minus). A 5th round pick could come in and do what he does. I never liked the pick to begin with and I don't like the re-signing.

Just as an example, I'd rather spend a 5th on McCord or Leonard ( link ), and save the money.

[CannonFire]

So does that make Trask officially not a bust? What's the goalpost here?

The goalposts are based on why he was drafted. We were told he was drafted to be the heir apparent to Brady. Meaning, he was expected to be a starter. He never did that, hence, yes, he's a bust.

[Cheb]

Could we figure out how to use Isaiah Simmons?

I don't think anyone thinks that they can, hence why he is a free agent after being a backup this past season for a bad Giants team, after the team that drafted him declined his fifth year option and traded him for a 7th round pick.

His biggest question as a pro has been the same as it was when he was in college; where do you play him? Because while he's an interesting athlete, he isn't a great football player.

Could he come here as a depth defender? Sure. Would I like him here? Not really.

[Bootz]

Could we figure out how to use Isaiah Simmons?

Maybe if we had the time to teach him how to play football.

[Grahamburn]

Could we figure out how to use Isaiah Simmons?

I don't think anyone thinks that they can, hence why he is a free agent after being a backup this past season for a bad Giants team, after the team that drafted him declined his fifth year option and traded him for a 7th round pick.

His biggest question as a pro has been the same as it was when he was in college; where do you play him? Because while he's an interesting athlete, he isn't a great football player.

Could he come here as a depth defender? Sure. Would I like him here? Not really.

Don’t lust over the traits!

Was he “bad” at Clemson? Guess that’s what I’m getting at. Figuring out how to unlock athletes after bad organizations can’t figure them out.

He’s interesting to me in that he’d be cheap depth at two positions of need.

[Grahamburn]

Best not draft Nick Emmanwori.

[Bootz]

I don't think anyone thinks that they can, hence why he is a free agent after being a backup this past season for a bad Giants team, after the team that drafted him declined his fifth year option and traded him for a 7th round pick.

His biggest question as a pro has been the same as it was when he was in college; where do you play him? Because while he's an interesting athlete, he isn't a great football player.

Could he come here as a depth defender? Sure. Would I like him here? Not really.

Don’t lust over the traits!

Was he “bad” at Clemson? Guess that’s what I’m getting at. Figuring out how to unlock athletes after bad organizations can’t figure them out.

He’s interesting to me in that he’d be cheap depth at two positions of need.

Simmons is basically a defensive version of OJ Howard. Looks the part. Has measurables and God given talent for days. But with all of his gifts when you watch him play, he plays extremely slow and delayed. His instincts appear to be non-existant. He looks lost most times. Because he's a top 1% athlete pound for pound, he will make some plays that will give people pause. But overall he'll never be consistent enough with the mental side of the game to put his gifts to use.

[Cheb]

Don’t lust over the traits!

Was he “bad” at Clemson? Guess that’s what I’m getting at. Figuring out how to unlock athletes after bad organizations can’t figure them out.

He’s interesting to me in that he’d be cheap depth at two positions of need.

Simmons is basically a defensive version of OJ Howard. Looks the part. Has measurables and God given talent for days. But with all of his gifts when you watch him play, he plays extremely slow and delayed. His instincts appear to be non-existant. He looks lost most times. Because he's a top 1% athlete pound for pound, he will make some plays that will give people pause. But overall he'll never be consistent enough with the mental side of the game to put his gifts to use.

Bingo

[Snake]

Could we figure out how to use Isaiah Simmons?

I don't think anyone thinks that they can, hence why he is a free agent after being a backup this past season for a bad Giants team, after the team that drafted him declined his fifth year option and traded him for a 7th round pick.

His biggest question as a pro has been the same as it was when he was in college; where do you play him? Because while he's an interesting athlete, he isn't a great football player.

Could he come here as a depth defender? Sure. Would I like him here? Not really.

Every single year. It’s just more of the same thing with the draft.

People were saying stuff like, “this is a Hall of Famer. It’s just depends where you wanna play him. Do you want a Hall of Fame safety? Do you want a Hall of Fame linebacker? He can even play corner!”

And the dude is awful. It’s amazing really.