**2024 NFL Season Talk (non-Bucs)**

[Sooner06]

Maybe you shouldn't try to argue. Especially when the point you got to was basically the same as the point raised. RBs matter and are part of a teams success

Matter in what way? Winning a SB…yeah…not sooo much

Uh, what?

KC doesn't win the SB in 2022 without running the ball. In the 1st half of that game, they ran the ball 5 times, scored just once offensively in 4 drives.

In the 2nd half, they ran the ball something like 20 times, and scored on every drive, 3 TDs and a FG to win the game.

And last year in the SB, almost the same deal. The Chiefs' passing offense wasn't very efficient, but the running game in the 2nd half was key to the Chiefs winning again.


And this season, the best teams in the league all run the ball well. The teams that don't are all at the bottom of the league.

[Sooner06]

Matter in what way? Winning a SB…yeah…not sooo much

Uh, what?

KC doesn't win the SB in 2022 without running the ball. In the 1st half of that game, they ran the ball 5 times, scored just once offensively in 4 drives.

In the 2nd half, they ran the ball something like 20 times, and scored on every drive, 3 TDs and a FG to win the game.

And last year in the SB, almost the same deal. The Chiefs' passing offense wasn't very efficient, but the running game in the 2nd half was key to the Chiefs winning again.

Bottom line, KC doesn't win the last two SBs without having a good rushing attack, period.


And this season, the best teams in the league all run the ball well. The teams that don't are all at the bottom of the league.

[Doctor]

Also, @Doctor seems like you’re preemptively defending upcoming losses against bottom feeders?

Check out my thread.

I think we're running the table.

[Grahamburn]

Also, @Doctor seems like you’re preemptively defending upcoming losses against bottom feeders?

Check out my thread.

I think we're running the table.

I saw it! Hope you’re right.

[Bootz]

Harbaugh bowl tonight. John is 2-0 vs Jim. I expect him to be 3-0 after tonight.

[BJJ34]

Maybe you shouldn't try to argue. Especially when the point you got to was basically the same as the point raised. RBs matter and are part of a teams success

Matter in what way? Winning a SB…yeah…not sooo much

So Fournette had nothing to do with us winning in 2021?

[BJJ34]

Are the Ravens overrated?

Can they keep up with the AFC top notch teams with their terrible defense?

[BJJ34]

Are the Ravens overrated?

Can they keep up with the AFC top notch teams with their terrible defense?

For example…

Buffalo, Kansas City, and Chargers all have a better offense. Pittsburgh beat them in a slobber knocker.

Then you have the lesser teams who could easily run up the score on them. They seem to thrive on offense with Lamar, but in the playoffs you need more than a running QB who can sling the ball.

[Bootz]

Nice opening drive the the Chargers.

Can the Ravens respond?

[Bootz]

Are the Ravens overrated?

No

[BJJ34]

Are the Ravens overrated?

No

7-5 if they lose tonight. A game behind the Steelers.

I’m not sure the AFC Wild Card standings right now, but I could definitely see them missing out.

[Bootz]

No

7-5 if they lose tonight. A game behind the Steelers.

I’m not sure the AFC Wild Card standings right now, but I could definitely see them missing out.

They are currently 6th. If they win they move up to 5th, Chargers move to 6th. If they lose they remain 5th, tied with Denver, who they destroyed a few weeks ago.

[BJJ34]

7-5 if they lose tonight. A game behind the Steelers.

I’m not sure the AFC Wild Card standings right now, but I could definitely see them missing out.

They are currently 6th. If they win they move up to 5th, Chargers move to 6th. If they lose they remain 5th, tied with Denver, who they destroyed a few weeks ago.

They’ve got a 91% playoff predictor to make the playoffs with a loss. The AFC is pretty much locked up already compared to the NFC which seems to be wide open.

[Bootz]

They are currently 6th. If they win they move up to 5th, Chargers move to 6th. If they lose they remain 5th, tied with Denver, who they destroyed a few weeks ago.

They’ve got a 91% playoff predictor to make the playoffs with a loss. The AFC is pretty much locked up already compared to the NFC which seems to be wide open.

Exactly.


The 1st team that's outside looking in is Miami at 5-6.

Behind them is Indianapolis at 5-7 and a terrible QB.

Behind them is Cincinnati, who's 4-7 and got swept by the Ravens.

I'd say that 91% is closer to 100 unless Baltimore has a catastrophic ending to the year.

[BJJ34]

Are all of our losses to current playoff teams?

[Bootz]

Are all of our losses to current playoff teams?

No.

[BJJ34]

Are all of our losses to current playoff teams?

No.

Everyone but the Niners, who still have a shot given the terribleness of their division.

[mdb1958]

Are all of our losses to current playoff teams?

No - 49er's

[mdb1958]

Are all of our losses to current playoff teams?

No - 49er's

We are 0-3 in the AFC. With Chargers being the last AFC game.

[Bootz]

No.

Everyone but the Niners, who still have a shot given the terribleness of their division.

The Niners are 1-3 vs that terrible division. They've shown absolutely no consistency this year. They also still have Detroit and Buffalo on their schedule and have to play the Cardinals and Rams, both of whom have already beat the Niners.

It doesn't look good for the Niners.

[Bootz]

Are all of our losses to current playoff teams?

No - 49er's

We are 0-3 in the AFC. With Chargers being the last AFC game.

We also play the Raiders.

[Bootz]

No one wants to tackle Derrick Henry

[Bootz]

Excellent defense

[BJJ34]

No one wants to tackle Derrick Henry

Business decisions are made when that man runs at you.

[BJJ34]

Andrews has consistently been one of the top TE’s in football the last couple years.

[Bootz]

No one wants to tackle Derrick Henry

Business decisions are made when that man runs at you.

I'm seeing a ton of business decisions being made tonight

[Bootz]

Herbert got one. Lamar got one.

[BJJ34]

Business decisions are made when that man runs at you.

I'm seeing a ton of business decisions being made tonight

Henry is a physical runner, but he’s also a patient runner. He finds the hole almost every time. And then if someone is in his way, he runs them over.

[BJJ34]

This has all the makings of a Monday Night Classic.

[Bootz]

I'm seeing a ton of business decisions being made tonight

Henry is a physical runner, but he’s also a patient runner. He finds the hole almost every time. And then if someone is in his way, he runs them over.

The Chargers D is pretty good overall. But that run D can be exploited. 4.7 yards/carry allowed on the year and over 110 yards/ game.

[acmillis]

Matter in what way? Winning a SB…yeah…not sooo much

So Fournette had nothing to do with us winning in 2021?

So Fournette is as an elite back?

[Bootz]

Seems to be what the Ravens do in Primetime. Let you score early on but then figure it out on offense and then go on a run.

[Bootz]

What a throw by Lamar!!!

Even better catch by Bateman

[BJJ34]

So Fournette had nothing to do with us winning in 2021?

So Fournette is as an elite back?

He could have been if he had been used properly. Runningbacks have short shelf lives.

[acmillis]

Matter in what way? Winning a SB…yeah…not sooo much

Uh, what?

KC doesn't win the SB in 2022 without running the ball. In the 1st half of that game, they ran the ball 5 times, scored just once offensively in 4 drives.

In the 2nd half, they ran the ball something like 20 times, and scored on every drive, 3 TDs and a FG to win the game.

And last year in the SB, almost the same deal. The Chiefs' passing offense wasn't very efficient, but the running game in the 2nd half was key to the Chiefs winning again.


And this season, the best teams in the league all run the ball well. The teams that don't are all at the bottom of the league.

And who was/were the RBs on that team?
That’s the point I’m making; you don’t need an elite rb to win. When was the last time an all pro rb won a SB?