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Wow! Can't wait to see compensation
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Davis is better than Dean. This is interesting.
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Snake wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:16 pm Davis is better than Dean. This is interesting.
Exactly. Dean's market is probably catpiss in a spoon. Davis' at least should be catpiss in a bowl.
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Lions have two 3rds. Maybe it's one of those?
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Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:18 pm Lions have two 3rds. Maybe it's one of those?
If Licht were savvy at trades (he's not) it would be at least both.

Edit: See? @Redrum had it 1st.

I had this wrong
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Just a cap move.
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Not horrible compensation.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:19 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:18 pm Lions have two 3rds. Maybe it's one of those?
If Licht were savvy at trades (he's not) it would be at least both.
The market is cat piss, but Licht should get TWO nice picks for him. Interesting standards you have there.
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Tbh it’s mildly disappointing to give up Carlton plus two 6ths just to get a 3rd from a team that had an extra 3rd. But the move should open up the space to adress other positions on the team so I’m good with it.
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We're giving the 6's. Eh.
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He had one year left on his deal and isn't getting any healthier. Dude misses 5+ games a year. Godwin was a 3rd. Diaby was a 3rd. Looking forward to the draft.
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WAIT! All we get is a 3rd and give up 2 picks?!

LMAO! Jason Licht has and always will get his ass handed to him in trades.
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So this is like the JPP trade, except this time we are the losing team.
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Every time we move on from a player it costs us a ton it seems.
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If my math is right, Gage and Davis being gone should clear up around 13 million in cap space. Plus there’s still the potential of AWJ/Wirfs getting new deals with short term cap relief or other players restructuring. I’m not sure who they could spend on, but I would like some edge help.
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This is just as more about the emergence of Zyon than it is Davis.

Davis and Dean have been great homegrown duo for us. And we likely would've continued with it had another opportunity not presented itself. But it did, that being we drafting and developing yet another boundary corner.

So now you can keep going with the original path likely paying Davis yet another big contract.... or pivot to Zyon, gain $6M in space, and a 3rd rounder in a stacked draft.

I thank CD3 for everything he's done and for being a huge part of that SB defense. Wish him the best. Hope they give him a fat deal.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:51 pm This is just as more about the emergence of Zyon than it is Davis.

Davis and Dean have been great homegrown duo for us. And we likely would've continued with it had another opportunity not presented itself. But it did, that being we drafting and developing yet another boundary corner.

So now you can keep going with the original path likely paying Davis yet another big contract.... or pivot to Zyon, gain $6M in space, and a 3rd rounder in a stacked draft.

I thank CD3 for everything he's done and for being a huge part of that SB defense. Wish him the best. Hope they give him a fat deal.
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Davis is done! 58 PFF grade!

Oh wait, Zyon’s was 52.
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Convince myself? Dude this was literally my take on our CBs before we even made the trade.
Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:13 pm Completely disagree. One, we absolutely could and did pay both corners like that. Two, these are all moving pieces. Every year looks different. You reform yourself to the landscape.

We have developed the heck out of our CBs from Davis to Dean to Zyon. And good thing too. We could very well move on from Davis. Now all of the sudden we've got two pretty darn good starting CBs costing a total of $16M a year for both this year and next. And we can move on from Dean after this year as well if we need be, but more than not we'll likely keep him while developing his eventual replacement as well.
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Snake wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:08 pm Davis is done! 58 PFF grade!

Oh wait, Zyon’s was 52.
It's okay though. Zyon is young, cheap and Jason Licht drafted him.
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We gave up late round draft picks, who cares? Those are like poor lottery tickets.

We have been solid with our mid round picks. A third is great. We freed up cap and got rid of an average corner who’s injured all the time on the last year of his contract.
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We traded Carlton Davis for Ray Davis.
I'm good with that.
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We traded davis and some chips for a third. I personally think it’s a great deal

We got him 6 years ago in the second round and got back a third rounder today. That’s value.
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Snake wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:08 pm Davis is done! 58 PFF grade!

Oh wait, Zyon’s was 52.

It's the Edge players - ohh wait mdb says it's IDL players..
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3rd round pick 92 from the Lions.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:11 pm
Snake wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:08 pm Davis is done! 58 PFF grade!

Oh wait, Zyon’s was 52.
It's okay though. Zyon is young, cheap and Jason Licht drafted him.
And you know, this was his rookie season. Let's not pretend he can't take a sophmore leap or at least get better
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kaimaru wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:42 pm
Bootz wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:11 pm

It's okay though. Zyon is young, cheap and Jason Licht drafted him.
And you know, this was his rookie season. Let's not pretend he can't take a sophmore leap or at least get better
2023 was his 2nd season.
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The issue with that analogy is that a dollar is equal to another dollar, whereas draft picks are not equal to one another. They're 6th round picks, we'll survive this disastrous loss of resources.
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BucsNBills wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:12 pm The issue with that analogy is that a dollar is equal to another dollar, whereas draft picks are not equal to one another. They're 6th round picks, we'll survive this disastrous loss of resources.
If you need to fill 2 spots you can't do so with 1 pick. That's what the analogy is getting at. You're basically putting the value of 6th round picks at 0. If that's the case, why give them up to begin with?
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True. While we got less than a 3rd in "value".... we got the 92nd selection. That's 4 cheap years of a top 100 player of a stacked draft class.
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Doctor wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:18 pm True. While we got less than a 3rd in "value".... we got the 92nd selection. That's 4 cheap years of a top 100 player of a stacked draft class.
I would've thought you'd be looking for the next Jose Ramirez. He's still on track for the ROH, right
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