Zach Wilson or Kyle Trask

[Buccabeer]

The Jets are giving permission for Zach Wilson to seek a trade. If they will take a 5th or 6th round draft pick, would you take him to replace Kyle Trask as our Backup QB?

Personally, I would. He has game experience, I think he's better than he's played, he's just been in a horrible situation and needs a bit of a re-set. His ceiling to me is higher than Kyle Trask, so why not do it and move on if it only costs us a late round draft pick?

[Grahamburn]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

[Snake]

I would give him a camp invite. I would trade absolutely nothing of consequence for him and his cap hit.

[Buccabeer]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

I did not think of the Cap Hit, but the latter is still on Par with the thought of him being a better option than Trask.

[Buccabeer]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

I'm sure this is not possible, but let me throw it out there for those who know....Can you trade Shaq to the Jets for a 6th and Wilson and end up close to a wash with the cap hit?

[GreatTimes]

Just offer a trade, Wilson for Trask.

[kaimaru]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

$5,453,274

[kaimaru]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

I'm sure this is not possible, but let me throw it out there for those who know....Can you trade Shaq to the Jets for a 6th and Wilson and end up close to a wash with the cap hit?

No, because he was a post June 1st designation splits the zoid dead cap between, but a trade means all the dead cap hits this year

[Cheb]

Zach Wilson is bad at football and expensive.

No thanks.

[13F11B]

The only thing Wilson did better than Trask in college is rushing yards and rushing TDs. Maybe we could pick him up to fill a role as a running back.

[Jonny]

I am not high on whatever is his head. But he has some uncommon arm talent and decent mobility. I would trade for him if I'm Carolina. I'm a Bama and Bryce Young fan, but I've seen enough of Tua holding his team back with his noodle arm and I sadly cannot see Young succeed in the NFL whatsoever with his unimpressive physical skillset. Canales is the type of coach that can get a QB to play to their strengths.

[Snake]

I am not high on whatever is his head. But he has some uncommon arm talent and decent mobility. I would trade for him if I'm Carolina. I'm a Bama and Bryce Young fan, but I've seen enough of Tua holding his team back with his noodle arm and I sadly cannot see Young succeed in the NFL whatsoever with his unimpressive physical skillset. Canales is the type of coach that can get a QB to play to their strengths.

/thread

This thinking has haunted the NFL forever.

[Grahamburn]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

$5,453,274

Yes, still. Nobody is trading for him unless the Jets are overpaying the trading team with additional picks. Like, a 5th for Wilson and a 2nd.

[Bootz]

$5,453,274

Yes, still. Nobody is trading for him unless the Jets are overpaying the trading team with additional picks. Like, a 5th for Wilson and a 2nd.

I'd do that if I needed some competition. That would make sense for teams like the Commanders, Falcons, Raiders, Vikings.

[Grahamburn]

Yes, still. Nobody is trading for him unless the Jets are overpaying the trading team with additional picks. Like, a 5th for Wilson and a 2nd.

I'd do that if I needed some competition. That would make sense for teams like the Commanders, Falcons, Raiders, Vikings.

Brock Osweiler style. Only way Wilson is traded is if the Jets give up value.

[CannonFire]

I think Wilson is better than Trask, because Trask couldn't beat out Mayfield, hence, not a starter. I think there's a chance Wilson can be. So, because Wilson is more money, but better, I think a trade of Wilson + a 5th for Trask is fair. Wilson is better, but not enough to justify the extra $4M.

[13F11B]

I think Wilson is better than Trask, because Trask couldn't beat out Mayfield, hence, not a starter. I think there's a chance Wilson can be. So, because Wilson is more money, but better, I think a trade of Wilson + a 5th for Trask is fair. Wilson is better, but not enough to justify the extra $4M.

That is some silly logic there. Glad you are not making the decisions. Wilson wasn't better than Trask in college and has looked like CRAP with the Jets, but you think he is better than Trask.

[Bootz]

I think Wilson is better than Trask, because Trask couldn't beat out Mayfield, hence, not a starter. I think there's a chance Wilson can be. So, because Wilson is more money, but better, I think a trade of Wilson + a 5th for Trask is fair. Wilson is better, but not enough to justify the extra $4M.

That is some silly logic there. Glad you are not making the decisions. Wilson wasn't better than Trask in college and has looked like CRAP with the Jets, but you think he is better than Trask.

So you think Trask is better than Wilson because of what they did in college 4+ years ago?

[13F11B]

That is some silly logic there. Glad you are not making the decisions. Wilson wasn't better than Trask in college and has looked like CRAP with the Jets, but you think he is better than Trask.

So you think Trask is better than Wilson because of what they did in college 4+ years ago?

Not what I said. I suggest reading again if you are having issues comprehending.

[kaimaru]

I think Wilson is better than Trask, because Trask couldn't beat out Mayfield, hence, not a starter. I think there's a chance Wilson can be. So, because Wilson is more money, but better, I think a trade of Wilson + a 5th for Trask is fair. Wilson is better, but not enough to justify the extra $4M.

That is some silly logic there. Glad you are not making the decisions. Wilson wasn't better than Trask in college and has looked like CRAP with the Jets, but you think he is better than Trask.

WTH? Last year in college
Wilson 73.5% 3692 11.0 YPA 33TD/3Int 11/1
Trask 68.9% 4283 9.8 YPA 43TD/8Int 5.4/1

I know which one is clearly the better player

[CannonFire]

I think Wilson is better than Trask, because Trask couldn't beat out Mayfield, hence, not a starter. I think there's a chance Wilson can be. So, because Wilson is more money, but better, I think a trade of Wilson + a 5th for Trask is fair. Wilson is better, but not enough to justify the extra $4M.

That is some silly logic there. Glad you are not making the decisions. Wilson wasn't better than Trask in college and has looked like CRAP with the Jets, but you think he is better than Trask.

I think there's a chance that Wilson can be a starter in the NFL. He's had moments where he did pretty well. I think he has a real shot at being a guy who could start for somebody in certain situations. There's a 0.0% chance Trask will ever be able to do that. If he can't beat out Baker Mayfield, who's a bottom tier starting QB in the NFL, you're not good enough to start. His ceiling is a 3rd stringer/emergency QB. I believe after this season, no one signs Trask, unless we do for league minimum. Even if we do, he won't be the backup... he's our next Ryan Griffin. I think someone picks up Wilson to be a backup.

[Grahamburn]

That is some silly logic there. Glad you are not making the decisions. Wilson wasn't better than Trask in college and has looked like CRAP with the Jets, but you think he is better than Trask.

WTH? Last year in college
Wilson 73.5% 3692 11.0 YPA 33TD/3Int 11/1
Trask 68.9% 4283 9.8 YPA 43TD/8Int 5.4/1

I know which one is clearly the better player

You do? Because of those numbers? You can’t hide in the SEC or the NFL. I think you can at BYU.

[Bootz]

WTH? Last year in college
Wilson 73.5% 3692 11.0 YPA 33TD/3Int 11/1
Trask 68.9% 4283 9.8 YPA 43TD/8Int 5.4/1

I know which one is clearly the better player

You do? Because of those numbers? You can’t hide in the SEC or the NFL. I think you can at BYU.

That's a different argument than what @13F11B was making.

[Doctor]

Trask

[13F11B]

That is some silly logic there. Glad you are not making the decisions. Wilson wasn't better than Trask in college and has looked like CRAP with the Jets, but you think he is better than Trask.

WTH? Last year in college
Wilson 73.5% 3692 11.0 YPA 33TD/3Int 11/1
Trask 68.9% 4283 9.8 YPA 43TD/8Int 5.4/1

I know which one is clearly the better player

https://cfbcomparisons.com/zach-wilson- ... omparison/

[13F11B]

You do? Because of those numbers? You can’t hide in the SEC or the NFL. I think you can at BYU.

That's a different argument than what @13F11B was making.

I did not make an argument. You tried to make it one though.

[Jonny]

Even with his starting experience, I'd feel better about Kyle Trask filling in for an injured Baker for a game or a few instead of Zach Wilson. Baker will get a deal from Bucs that will guarantee him a starter for at least two full seasons. A team like the 2024 Bucs does not make a play for a high ceiling bust to be a backup. You need someone with familiarity with the players, coaches and even the scheme.

[kaimaru]

Even with his starting experience, I'd feel better about Kyle Trask filling in for an injured Baker for a game or a few instead of Zach Wilson. Baker will get a deal from Bucs that will guarantee him a starter for at least two full seasons. A team like the 2024 Bucs does not make a play for a high ceiling bust to be a backup. You need someone with familiarity with the players, coaches and even the scheme.

Didn't we put Rosen on our practice squad?

[Four Verticals]

Even with his starting experience, I'd feel better about Kyle Trask filling in for an injured Baker for a game or a few instead of Zach Wilson. Baker will get a deal from Bucs that will guarantee him a starter for at least two full seasons. A team like the 2024 Bucs does not make a play for a high ceiling bust to be a backup. You need someone with familiarity with the players, coaches and even the scheme.

Didn't we put Rosen on our practice squad?

In 2020. He was 4th on the depth chart at that point. Eventually he was selected by the Niners off the Bucs PS.

[Terry Tate]

I didn't read the whole thread but I have to ask, why trade Trask for Wilson? We've seen Wilson, he's trash. We've seen nothing of Trask, all we know is that he was competitive with Baker up to the end.

So why would we trade assets and valuable cap space for a guy who is likely not any better than the guy we have?

[Bootz]

I didn't read the whole thread but I have to ask, why trade Trask for Wilson? We've seen Wilson, he's trash. We've seen nothing of Trask, all we know is that he was competitive with Baker up to the end.

So why would we trade assets and valuable cap space for a guy who is likely not any better than the guy we have?

Up until the end of what, the ink drying on Baker's contract?

Please. Baker had the job as soon as we made a call to his agent.

[13F11B]

I didn't read the whole thread but I have to ask, why trade Trask for Wilson? We've seen Wilson, he's trash. We've seen nothing of Trask, all we know is that he was competitive with Baker up to the end.

So why would we trade assets and valuable cap space for a guy who is likely not any better than the guy we have?

Up until the end of what, the ink drying on Baker's contract?

Please. Baker had the job as soon as we made a call to his agent.

Yes, yes. You feel that the coaches and GM are all liars. We get it.

[Jonny]

I didn't read the whole thread but I have to ask, why trade Trask for Wilson? We've seen Wilson, he's trash. We've seen nothing of Trask, all we know is that he was competitive with Baker up to the end.

So why would we trade assets and valuable cap space for a guy who is likely not any better than the guy we have?

Up until the end of what, the ink drying on Baker's contract?

Please. Baker had the job as soon as we made a call to his agent.

Licht was on NBC sports with Chris Simms and Florio saying that the competition was real and Trask was ahead of Baker midway during the competition and it wasn't until a couple of preseason games that Baker cemented himself as the starter.

In this type of an interview, there is absolutely no incentive to make shit up. Baker is clearly the starter now and no one would make it up.

The only one making things up based on no evidence is you, because you are good ole' Bootz. Baker looked like dogshit for two seasons and you think Bucs were happy to crown him the starter? Also Licht said Baker was vying to play with the Bucs last off season.

[BuccaNOLEer]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

I wouldn't pay 11 bucks for Zach Wilson.

[Phantom]

Wilson has a cap hit of ~$11M. Anyone trading for him has to take that on. So, nobody is trading for him.

After he’s released he’ll end up in someone’s training camp for peanuts. I’d be indifferent if it were ours.

I wouldn't pay 11 bucks for Zach Wilson.

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