Justin Fields: Shittsburgh Steeler

[Grahamburn]

It would just be so Bears to trade the #1 pick two years in a row and keep Fields.

Idiotic.

That would have validity if they had earned the #1 pick 2 years straight. They didn't.

Poles & Eberflus have a huge decision to make. As we've seen having a rookie QB is no guarantee to keep you around if things don't go well.

What you'd be banking on is a rookie getting you more than the 7 wins you got this season with Fields. Is that guy in this draft? We don't know.

Oh please. You’re banking on a Hell of a lot more than just a comparison of the first year win/loss total. That should be borderline irrelevant.

[Buc2]

Teams do it because it justifies their personnel's existence and it beats sitting around the team facility staring at each other.

I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with the process. Just that a pro day workout in shorts doesn’t move the needle as much as fans and media want to make it out to.

I know what you were saying, and I agree. I was just adding another reason. Front office personnel have to do something during the offseason to justify their salaries. Make-work is a good way to do that.

[CannonFire]

That would have validity if they had earned the #1 pick 2 years straight. They didn't.

Poles & Eberflus have a huge decision to make. As we've seen having a rookie QB is no guarantee to keep you around if things don't go well.

What you'd be banking on is a rookie getting you more than the 7 wins you got this season with Fields. Is that guy in this draft? We don't know.

Yeah. He almost led them out of the top 10 this year.

You know what's funny, with 6 minutes to go, we were beating the Bears by 3 points. I'm going to use your Tampa / Houston argument against you. Had the Bears defense been able to get the ball back, the Bears had a chance to beat us. Had that happened, both the Bears and Bucs would've finished the season at 8-9.

Like I said above, those in glass houses...

[Grahamburn]

Yeah. He almost led them out of the top 10 this year.

You know what's funny, with 6 minutes to go, we were beating the Bears by 3 points. I'm going to use your Tampa / Houston argument against you. Had the Bears defense been able to get the ball back, the Bears had a chance to beat us. Had that happened, both the Bears and Bucs would've finished the season at 8-9.

Like I said above, those in glass houses...

Not exactly the same when one QB dumped the ball into the belly of a defender for a pick 6 to lose the game and the other threw a TD with :50 seconds left to take the lead, but OH KAY …

[Bootz]

That would have validity if they had earned the #1 pick 2 years straight. They didn't.

Poles & Eberflus have a huge decision to make. As we've seen having a rookie QB is no guarantee to keep you around if things don't go well.

What you'd be banking on is a rookie getting you more than the 7 wins you got this season with Fields. Is that guy in this draft? We don't know.

Yeah. He almost led them out of the top 10 this year.

You gonna apply that logic to every QB who finished with a worst record?

[Grahamburn]

Yeah. He almost led them out of the top 10 this year.

You gonna apply that logic to every QB who finished with a worst record?

I can only assume you’re referring to Herbert, and yeah, if I were them I’d be dreading that contract.

They’re leaning in hoping the coaching change changes the culture there.

That being said Herbert’s numbers in his first 3 years make Fields’ look pretty pedestrian.

[Bootz]

You gonna apply that logic to every QB who finished with a worst record?

I can only assume you’re referring to Herbert, and yeah, if I were them I’d be dreading that contract.

They’re leaning in hoping the coaching change changes the culture there.

That being said Herbert’s numbers in his first 3 years make Fields’ look pretty pedestrian.

Didn't know Herbert played for 7 other teams, no less one with a worse record than the Bears.

[Grahamburn]

I can only assume you’re referring to Herbert, and yeah, if I were them I’d be dreading that contract.

They’re leaning in hoping the coaching change changes the culture there.

That being said Herbert’s numbers in his first 3 years make Fields’ look pretty pedestrian.

Didn't know Herbert played for 7 other teams, no less one with a worse record than the Bears.

I don’t know who/what you’re referring to then or what point you’re trying to make.

[Snake]

He believes Justin Herbert is a worse quarterback than Justin Fields

[Grahamburn]

He believes Justin Herbert is a worse quarterback than Justin Fields

Along with 7 others I guess? I’d take Fields over the rest of those guys, but not Herbert.

I guess if a top 10 pick is your goal every year Fields is your guy. Not sure what else we’re arguing here.

They should draft a QB and trade Fields. Pretty cut and dry.

Historically, has there ever been a QB that has showed as little as Fields has as a passer and gone on to be a consistently productive winning QB?

[Bootz]

Didn't know Herbert played for 7 other teams, no less one with a worse record than the Bears.

I don’t know who/what you’re referring to then or what point you’re trying to make.

I'm referring to this.

Yeah. He almost led them out of the top 10 this year.

You gonna apply that logic to every QB who finished with a worst record?

Not sure what's unclear. You chose to pick out 1 guy who doesn't even apply. 9 teams finished with worst records than the Bears. Do you apply the same logic to those 9 QBs that you apply to Fields?

[Grahamburn]

I don’t know who/what you’re referring to then or what point you’re trying to make.

I'm referring to this.

You gonna apply that logic to every QB who finished with a worst record?

Not sure what's unclear. You chose to pick out 1 guy who doesn't even apply. 9 teams finished with worst records than the Bears. Do you apply the same logic to those 9 QBs that you apply to Fields?

And the year before that he led them to the #1 pick. Which, they traded, and then doubled down on Fields. Got him a weapon in D.J. Moore. Drafted an offensive linemen #10. Then he still played like ass this year.

This is a thread ABOUT Fields. I'm not cherry picking him for any kind of specific reason if that's your agenda. Which, as usual, it is and I'm just now kind of figuring it out why you're baiting this way.

Start one about Sam Howell and where he'll land after he's traded or released. I'll post about how bad he is too.

[BucsNBills]

Thought Experiment: You can have Justin Fields or Baker Mayfield as your QB for the same amount of money, which are you going with?


I'm going Baker, personally.

[Grahamburn]

Thought Experiment: You can have Justin Fields or Baker Mayfield as your QB for the same amount of money, which are you going with?


I'm going Baker, personally.

Baker with zero hesitation. I'd take Baker's next two years over Fields' next two years money wise as well.

[CannonFire]

You know what's funny, with 6 minutes to go, we were beating the Bears by 3 points. I'm going to use your Tampa / Houston argument against you. Had the Bears defense been able to get the ball back, the Bears had a chance to beat us. Had that happened, both the Bears and Bucs would've finished the season at 8-9.

Like I said above, those in glass houses...

Not exactly the same when one QB dumped the ball into the belly of a defender for a pick 6 to lose the game and the other threw a TD with :50 seconds left to take the lead, but OH KAY …

excuses excuses.

My HyPoThEtIcAl Is MoRe VaLiD tHaN yOuRs!!!!

[Cheb]

I'm referring to this.



Not sure what's unclear. You chose to pick out 1 guy who doesn't even apply. 9 teams finished with worst records than the Bears. Do you apply the same logic to those 9 QBs that you apply to Fields?

And the year before that he led them to the #1 pick. Which, they traded, and then doubled down on Fields. Got him a weapon in D.J. Moore. Drafted an offensive linemen #10. Then he still played like ass this year.

This is a thread ABOUT Fields. I'm not cherry picking him for any kind of specific reason if that's your agenda. Which, as usual, it is and I'm just now kind of figuring it out why you're baiting this way.

Start one about Sam Howell and where he'll land after he's traded or released. I'll post about how bad he is too.

The Bears went 4-2 over their last six games of the season, and finished with the second-best point differential of NFC teams that didn't make the playoffs.

They're trending in the right direction. Keep building up the team around Fields and I think they're a playoff squad next year.

[Snake]

("justin fields can't read NFL defenses")

[Grahamburn]

And the year before that he led them to the #1 pick. Which, they traded, and then doubled down on Fields. Got him a weapon in D.J. Moore. Drafted an offensive linemen #10. Then he still played like ass this year.

This is a thread ABOUT Fields. I'm not cherry picking him for any kind of specific reason if that's your agenda. Which, as usual, it is and I'm just now kind of figuring it out why you're baiting this way.

Start one about Sam Howell and where he'll land after he's traded or released. I'll post about how bad he is too.

The Bears went 4-2 over their last six games of the season, and finished with the second-best point differential of NFC teams that didn't make the playoffs.

They're trending in the right direction. Keep building up the team around Fields and I think they're a playoff squad next year.

Reminds me of 2016 when Jameis went 6-2 down the stretch.

[kaimaru]

And the year before that he led them to the #1 pick. Which, they traded, and then doubled down on Fields. Got him a weapon in D.J. Moore. Drafted an offensive linemen #10. Then he still played like ass this year.

This is a thread ABOUT Fields. I'm not cherry picking him for any kind of specific reason if that's your agenda. Which, as usual, it is and I'm just now kind of figuring it out why you're baiting this way.

Start one about Sam Howell and where he'll land after he's traded or released. I'll post about how bad he is too.

The Bears went 4-2 over their last six games of the season, and finished with the second-best point differential of NFC teams that didn't make the playoffs.

They're trending in the right direction. Keep building up the team around Fields and I think they're a playoff squad next year.

Baker went 6-2 to end the season, and finished as the best point differential of NFC teams that made the playoffs during that span. I don't think this is as good of a defense of Fields as you think:

TB 53
SF 46
DET 39
GB 39
LAR 22
DAL 16
PHI -82

Goddamn Philly sucked at the end of the season...

[Bootz]

Thought Experiment: You can have Justin Fields or Baker Mayfield as your QB for the same amount of money, which are you going with?


I'm going Baker, personally.

Baker

[Doctor]

I hate these as it puts players in a vacuum that doesn't exist in real life. It's possible there's a system and OC that fits Fields and truly unlocks a winner, but are you going to find it?

Given we've seen Baker be a good fit already, I got to go that way.

[Navybuc]

Thought Experiment: You can have Justin Fields or Baker Mayfield as your QB for the same amount of money, which are you going with?


I'm going Baker, personally.

Fields.

[Snake]

Without knowing ANYTHING else? Scheme, coaching staff, etc….

I’m going full entertainment. Give me Fields baby!

[Grahamburn]

Without knowing ANYTHING else? Scheme, coaching staff, etc….

I’m going full entertainment. Give me Fields baby!

It would make the draft more entertaining at least. Top 10 picks are way more fun to mock than the mid/late 20’s.

[Doctor]

If we're going by entertainment, give me Winston. #exciting

[Selmon Rules]

If we're going by entertainment, give me Winston. #exciting

Always a chance to see a touchdown every throw!! Sometimes for the offense!!

[Phantom]

Interesting

The New England Patriots are "exploring all options" to upgrading the quarterback position, from taking a rookie with the 3rd overall pick to trade for Justin Fields.

Via The Athletic reporter Chad Graff.

[CannonFire]

Interesting

The New England Patriots are "exploring all options" to upgrading the quarterback position, from taking a rookie with the 3rd overall pick to trade for Justin Fields.

Via The Athletic reporter Chad Graff.

That's not a terrible idea... pending the cost. Give up a 3rd and draft Harrison could put them on a great path. It could also give them the ability to trade back a big and get a better pick back. Trade down from 3 to 7 and pick up a 2nd and a 2nd next year from Tennessee. At pick 7, they should be able to get the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best non-QB in the draft.

[GreatTimes]

My guess is that Fields will end up in Atlanta in a trade for a 3rd round pick.

[CantonJester]

Interesting

That's not a terrible idea... pending the cost. Give up a 3rd and draft Harrison could put them on a great path. It could also give them the ability to trade back a big and get a better pick back. Trade down from 3 to 7 and pick up a 2nd and a 2nd next year from Tennessee. At pick 7, they should be able to get the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best non-QB in the draft.

IMO they should take the BPA at #3 (Harrison) and then grab either Rattler or Penix in the 2nd. Who knows. Not my problem.

[Snake]

Another Ohio State quarterback illustrating that there’s levels to this game

[Buccabeer]

Another Ohio State quarterback illustrating that there’s levels to this game

He had me at Hello......dude, that was impressive for a rookie. I would have expected Holy #$%@ they're blitzing where's my RB.

[Phantom]

REPORT: The Chicago Bears have received 2 trade offers for QB Justin Fields.

One offer from the Atlanta Falcons & The other offer from the Las Vegas Raiders! The Bears are still deciding whether to keep Fields or trade him and take Caleb Williams #1 overall in the draft

Per Jake Eckberg / Uncovered NFL

[CannonFire]

Thought Experiment: You can have Justin Fields or Baker Mayfield as your QB for the same amount of money, which are you going with?


I'm going Baker, personally.

If I can have both at Fields' contract, I'll take the cheap/potential upside of Fields' rookie deal.

If the contract is what we expect Mayfield's to be, I'll take Mayfield.

[Doctor]

I like Fields on the Falcons.