2024 NFL Coaching Hire Tracker

[Buc2]

No QB playing today would've survived.

A few might've survived. The best ones I can think of are Derek Carr, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, and Brock Purdy. Classic drop back QBs. However, they wouldn't be putting up the numbers they put up today. They'd need road graders on the O-Line and a big, hard RB/FB combination. Everyone would.

You know another QB that would have survived the '80s? Our very own, Baker Mayfield. Dude is one tough 'sum bitch.

[BuccaNOLEer]

A few might've survived. The best ones I can think of are Derek Carr, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, and Brock Purdy. Classic drop back QBs. However, they wouldn't be putting up the numbers they put up today. They'd need road graders on the O-Line and a big, hard RB/FB combination. Everyone would.

You know another QB that would have survived the '80s? Our very own, Baker Mayfield. Dude is one tough 'sum bitch.

Nah, little scrambler guys like him wouldn't have even been considered. Notice that Doug Flutie went to the CFL first. Fran Tarkenton was the exception back then, not the rule.

[kaimaru]

I agree with your overall sentiment, but I will add that Reid has a history of consistently getting the most out of his QBs where as Belichick has only done so with Brady.

Nobody called Reid a great head coach until he got Mahomes. He was known as a brilliant offensive mind who stunk in the playoffs. Great QBs lift coaches up. Both Reid and Bellichick are both all-time greats, but can't do what they've done without great QBs.

Mahomes, like Brady, will be fine. He's played this season with a bottom 3 skill position group and a below average pass-blocking offensive line, which includes a RT who telegraphs every pass play per multiple defensive ends.

Lugz just hates Mahomes, despite him already being a 1st round HOF lock, he thinks he stinks.

What is with HCs can't win without a great QB. Saying Reid wasn't a great QB before Mahommes is just a lie. He was 12-4 with Alex Smith before they drafted Mahommes. 173-114 before Mahommes is a mediocre head coach? How is someone a HC 18 straight seasons before Mahommes a brilliant offensive mind but an okay HC?

[uscbucsfan1]

Nobody called Reid a great head coach until he got Mahomes. He was known as a brilliant offensive mind who stunk in the playoffs. Great QBs lift coaches up. Both Reid and Bellichick are both all-time greats, but can't do what they've done without great QBs.

Mahomes, like Brady, will be fine. He's played this season with a bottom 3 skill position group and a below average pass-blocking offensive line, which includes a RT who telegraphs every pass play per multiple defensive ends.

Lugz just hates Mahomes, despite him already being a 1st round HOF lock, he thinks he stinks.

What is with HCs can't win without a great QB. Saying Reid wasn't a great QB before Mahommes is just a lie. He was 12-4 with Alex Smith before they drafted Mahommes. 173-114 before Mahommes is a mediocre head coach? How is someone a HC 18 straight seasons before Mahommes a brilliant offensive mind but an okay HC?

He never won a SB. The media narrative was that he was a really good coach, but not an all-time great.

Now many even say he may be the best....because of a great QB.

There are no dynasties without great QB play, period...regardless of the coaching. Sure there are 1 offs, especially with great defenses, but sustained greatness is more dependent on the QB play than coaching in the modern NFL.

He was fired in Philly. Just Google the topic...there's tons of data pointing to that. The narrative changed on him because of Mahomes. No one is suggesting he didn't help Mahomes turn into the monster he is or that Bellichick wasn't instrumental in developing Brady, but those players pushed their coaches to a different level of success.

[Navybuc]

How many owners fire their head coach after two or three consecutive winning seasons? I can think of two...one of which resides here in town. Can you think of any others? As I said when you do that, that reputation carries with you, no matter how long ago it was.

Plus, if McCarthy was so safe, why didn't Jerry have to come out and wait til Wednesday of this week to say, "We're keeping our coach." Maybe the guy he really wanted said no? I don't know...just saying that's it a bit odd. And many in the media, including Adam Schefter whose sources are a lot better than yours, was on Dan Patrick this week and thought the Cowboys were making a change.

Sirianni isn't meeting with ownership for a exit interview for the season until today. Would that be odd if he is fired today or tomorrow? You're making way too much about timing

What sparked everything was Jones was asked before the Packers game if McCarthy would be back and he responded, "We'll see how each game goes." I think anyone who reads that quote would raise their eyebrows and say, "Hmmmm..." especially given the way the Cowboys game went and that Belichick was out there...and Jones had hired a similar guy in Parcells a while back.

But as I said, I think keeping McCarthy was probably the right move. I think he's a very good head coach. The only scenario you can ever argue for firing a coach after making the playoffs is if there's a better coach available. And I think a lot of people thought Belichick is that "better coach available." And maybe they explored that and Bill said "No." We'll never know.

[Buc2]

You know another QB that would have survived the '80s? Our very own, Baker Mayfield. Dude is one tough 'sum bitch.

Nah, little scrambler guys like him wouldn't have even been considered. Notice that Doug Flutie went to the CFL first. Fran Tarkenton was the exception back then, not the rule.

These QB's were all recognized as great scramblers that started their NFL careers in the '80s or earlier:
Randall Cunningham 1985-2001
Steve Young 1985-1999
John Elway 1983-1998
Jim Zorn 1975-1987
Roger Staubach 1969-1979
Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978

[kaimaru]

What is with HCs can't win without a great QB. Saying Reid wasn't a great QB before Mahommes is just a lie. He was 12-4 with Alex Smith before they drafted Mahommes. 173-114 before Mahommes is a mediocre head coach? How is someone a HC 18 straight seasons before Mahommes a brilliant offensive mind but an okay HC?

He never won a SB. The media narrative was that he was a really good coach, but not an all-time great.

Now many even say he may be the best....because of a great QB.

There are no dynasties without great QB play, period...regardless of the coaching. Sure there are 1 offs, especially with great defenses, but sustained greatness is more dependent on the QB play than coaching in the modern NFL.

He was fired in Philly. Just Google the topic...there's tons of data pointing to that. The narrative changed on him because of Mahomes. No one is suggesting he didn't help Mahomes turn into the monster he is or that Bellichick wasn't instrumental in developing Brady, but those players pushed their coaches to a different level of success.

Fair enough, he was a good coach not a great coach

[Bootz]

[13F11B]

First smart move in over a decade.

[Miller4Prez64]

I figured this would be the move for the Raiders, not necessarily because it is the right thing to do (it is), but because Davis just straight up doesn’t have the cash to pursue a big name coach.

[Bootz]

I figured this would be the move for the Raiders, not necessarily because it is the right thing to do (it is), but because Davis just straight up doesn’t have the cash to pursue a big name coach.

It should never be about finding a big name. Their last 2 coaches have been "big names" and look where that got them. It should be about finding the right person for the job.

[Navybuc]

Good move by the Raiders.

[Onthebrink]

Nah, little scrambler guys like him wouldn't have even been considered. Notice that Doug Flutie went to the CFL first. Fran Tarkenton was the exception back then, not the rule.

These QB's were all recognized as great scramblers that started their NFL careers in the '80s or earlier:
Randall Cunningham 1985-2001
Steve Young 1985-1999
John Elway 1983-1998
Jim Zorn 1975-1987
Roger Staubach 1969-1979
Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978

Cunningham was 6 foot 4. Elway 6'3". Young 6'2". Zorn 6'2". Stauback 6'3". Tarkenton is the only one shorter than Mayfield.

[BuccaNOLEer]

Nah, little scrambler guys like him wouldn't have even been considered. Notice that Doug Flutie went to the CFL first. Fran Tarkenton was the exception back then, not the rule.

These QB's were all recognized as great scramblers that started their NFL careers in the '80s or earlier:
Randall Cunningham 1985-2001
Steve Young 1985-1999
John Elway 1983-1998
Jim Zorn 1975-1987
Roger Staubach 1969-1979
Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978

But with the exception of Tarkenton, all of them were tall and built to the mold of a classic drop back passer

[uscbucsfan1]

These QB's were all recognized as great scramblers that started their NFL careers in the '80s or earlier:
Randall Cunningham 1985-2001
Steve Young 1985-1999
John Elway 1983-1998
Jim Zorn 1975-1987
Roger Staubach 1969-1979
Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978

But with the exception of Tarkenton, all of them were tall and built to the mold of a classic drop back passer

So Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, or Herbert aren't?

Good QBs would play well in any era. Longevity would be the question. Brady wouldn't have played 100 years in the 80s, but Mahomes is 10 lbs heavier than Young or Elway, Allen is 30 lbs heavier. The logic doesn't make sense that they wouldn't have been able to play in older eras. Lamar Jackson is the exact same size as Young, but exponentially more athletic.

edit: It's a dumb comparison because all players are bigger faster in general. They wouldn't have been as big/fast if they lived back then. You look at the average size/speed of players now vs. then, it's wild. We have 6'6" players running sub 5 (many in the 4.5 range) 40s on the regular. The game has changed with the rules, but the players are bigger, faster, stronger now...which also makes them more susceptible to soft tissue injuries. Derrick Henry is far more of a freak than Jim Brown was, but so is everyone else.

[Miller4Prez64]

I figured this would be the move for the Raiders, not necessarily because it is the right thing to do (it is), but because Davis just straight up doesn’t have the cash to pursue a big name coach.

It should never be about finding a big name. Their last 2 coaches have been "big names" and look where that got them. It should be about finding the right person for the job.

I agree. My point is that Davis probably would have made the mistake of pursuing a big name coach again if he wasn’t so broke from paying out his other big hires.

[kaimaru]

It should never be about finding a big name. Their last 2 coaches have been "big names" and look where that got them. It should be about finding the right person for the job.

I agree. My point is that Davis probably would have made the mistake of pursuing a big name coach again if he wasn’t so broke from paying out his other big hires.

How is $20 mill per year making a billionaire broke? Risk adverse, maybe, broke is a stretch

[BucsNBills]

Pierce
Bowles
Tomlin
Ryans
Mayo

Up to 15% of coaches are black now. That should address the oppression black coaches have faced over the years, right??

We shouldn't hear anymore about this non-issue going forward, correct??

[Backside]

Pierce
Bowles
Tomlin
Ryans
Mayo

Up to 15% of coaches are black now. That should address the oppression black coaches have faced over the years, right??

We shouldn't hear anymore about this non-issue going forward, correct??

what percentage of the players are black? You think 15/85 is a good ratio?

Please shut up, you sound incredibly stupid.

[Bootz]

[BucsNBills]

Pierce
Bowles
Tomlin
Ryans
Mayo

Up to 15% of coaches are black now. That should address the oppression black coaches have faced over the years, right??

We shouldn't hear anymore about this non-issue going forward, correct??

what percentage of the players are black? You think 15/85 is a good ratio?

Please shut up, you sound incredibly stupid.

Way to move the goalposts.

Blacks have their demographically appropriate number of head coaches now, so any more complaining about this non-issue is just grifting and nothing more.

[kaimaru]

what percentage of the players are black? You think 15/85 is a good ratio?

Please shut up, you sound incredibly stupid.

Way to move the goalposts.

Blacks have their demographically appropriate number of head coaches now, so any more complaining about this non-issue is just grifting and nothing more.

So you're saying that if all Asian restaurants with Asian staffs (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, India, etc.) should only have 5.6% Asian managers. It wouldn't be odd at all if 94% were white. Because that is your take here

[Bootz]

Official

[Backside]

what percentage of the players are black? You think 15/85 is a good ratio?

Please shut up, you sound incredibly stupid.

Way to move the goalposts.

Blacks have their demographically appropriate number of head coaches now, so any more complaining about this non-issue is just grifting and nothing more.

The goalposts were never established dumbass.

You just decided to spit off on some racist drivel randomly because an NFL team hired a black head coach.

[Central_Buc]

I agree with your overall sentiment, but I will add that Reid has a history of consistently getting the most out of his QBs where as Belichick has only done so with Brady.

Nobody called Reid a great head coach until he got Mahomes. He was known as a brilliant offensive mind who stunk in the playoffs. Great QBs lift coaches up. Both Reid and Bellichick are both all-time greats, but can't do what they've done without great QBs.

Mahomes, like Brady, will be fine. He's played this season with a bottom 3 skill position group and a below average pass-blocking offensive line, which includes a RT who telegraphs every pass play per multiple defensive ends.

Lugz just hates Mahomes, despite him already being a 1st round HOF lock, he thinks he stinks.

To add what @kaimaru is saying. The Eagles were a complete disaster in the late 90s when Reid took over (it being his 1st HC job). He completely reshaped that team.

I would say he did everything right except win a SB in his tenure with above average QB play. Rebuilding an entire losing roster, (5-11 Reids first year there then they took off the year after) 3 conference championships and 1 SB appearance. You know how hard that is?

I would also put him in the great HC category before the KC job.

[Miller4Prez64]

I agree. My point is that Davis probably would have made the mistake of pursuing a big name coach again if he wasn’t so broke from paying out his other big hires.

How is $20 mill per year making a billionaire broke? Risk adverse, maybe, broke is a stretch

Mark Davis is probably the least cash rich owner in the league. I mean, he is still loaded compared to us peasants but the reports have been that his irresponsible spending has him pinching pennies.

[Bootz]

[Phantom]

Damn. Congratulation Justin Herbert, you got a great coach.

Per Mike Garafolo of NFL Media, the Chargers and Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh are in “striking distance” of getting a deal done.

Since Michigan won the national championship, NFL rumors have swirled around head coach Jim Harbaugh. Now, those rumors are heating up. On Tuesday, KPRC 2 Houston’s Aaron Wilson revealed what Harbaugh’s coaching staff could look like if he becomes the Los Angeles Chargers’ next head coach.

“Per league sources, offensive coordinator could be Greg Roman, defensive coordinator Jesse Minter and special teams coordinator Jay Harbaugh, Jim’s son,” Wilson wrote on X.

[Phantom]

Dave Canales to Carolina?

[Doctor]

Please no.

[BuccaNOLEer]

Dave Canales to Carolina?

There's a lot of smoke about that right now.

If we have to find another offensive coordinator, you might as well just blow it all up.

[Bootz]

Canales is one of about 8-9 coaches who has received a 2nd interview. And this is the only team that has interviewed him.

On this I'm worried about, that's not one of them. The Panthers don't have a real direction as it pertains to their coaching search.

[real bucs fan]

Canales is one of about 8-9 coaches who has received a 2nd interview. And this is the only team that has interviewed him.

On this I'm worried about, that's not one of them. The Panthers don't have a real direction as it pertains to their coaching search.

Canales is friends with their new GM who he worked with in Seattle.

This is a genuinely concerning development. We lost him, we could well lose Baker too. And at that point Evans is as good as gone and our entire offence is in complete shambles.

[Doctor]

Canales is one of about 8-9 coaches who has received a 2nd interview. And this is the only team that has interviewed him.

On this I'm worried about, that's not one of them. The Panthers don't have a real direction as it pertains to their coaching search.

Canales is friends with their new GM who he worked with in Seattle.

This is a genuinely concerning development. We lost him, we could well lose Baker too. And at that point Evans is as good as gone and our entire offence is in complete shambles.

Indeed. It would lead to major unraveling.
Let's see if Licht can keep the band together.

[uscbucsfan1]

Canales is one of about 8-9 coaches who has received a 2nd interview. And this is the only team that has interviewed him.

On this I'm worried about, that's not one of them. The Panthers don't have a real direction as it pertains to their coaching search.

Canales is friends with their new GM who he worked with in Seattle.

This is a genuinely concerning development. We lost him, we could well lose Baker too. And at that point Evans is as good as gone and our entire offence is in complete shambles.

We have an easy way to keep Baker. No one should worry about that.