Week 14 Discussion

[BucsNBills]

Eagles getting exposed.

Hot take: 2022 Hurts was a fluke. 2021 and 2023 are more indictive of who he is as a player.

He's looked and played like the worst QB on the field in consecutive weeks vs Purdy and now Dak.

[Bootz]

An "exposed" Jalen Hurts is 10-3 and leads the league in total TDs...But okay.

[Snake]

Comical. It was your dude’s fault Patty Cake

[Phantom]

See? The chiefs not juggernaut anymore.

[13F11B]

An "exposed" Jalen Hurts is 10-3 and leads the league in total TDs...But okay.

He has thrown for 19 TDs and 10 Ints. That ranks him #12 as a passer. He adds 12 TDs as a rushed (not sure how many are Philly Tush Push) and 8 fumbles. So, total that is 31 TDs and 18 turnovers.

Purdy has thrown for 25 TDs and 7 ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 8 fumbles. So, that is 27 TDs and 15 turnovers.

Prescott has thrown for 28 TDs and 6 Ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 2 fumbles. So, that is 30 TDs and 8 turnovers.

Josh Allen has thrown for 25 TDs and 14 Ints. He adds 10 rushing TDs and 4 fumbles. So, that is 35 TDs and 18 turnovers.

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So, technically Jalen doesn't lead the NFL in total TDs this season. Josh Allen does. I would say as a passer Jalen Hurts is not as good as several NFL QBs. However, as a player he is in the top five.

[Buc2]

He was crying to Josh Allen about it after the game.

Yeah, Mahomes lost a ton of respect tonight. Even Chiefs fans were shitting on him for crying like a bitch and cringed at him doubling down during his presser.

I'm ahead of the curve when it comes to disliking Mahomes. An early adopter if you will.

Easy to hate. Just look at the 2 closest people he keeps around him.

[13F11B]

Yeah, Mahomes lost a ton of respect tonight. Even Chiefs fans were shitting on him for crying like a bitch and cringed at him doubling down during his presser.

I'm ahead of the curve when it comes to disliking Mahomes. An early adopter if you will.

Easy to hate. Just look at the 2 closest people he keeps around him.

I really don't think that is fair to blame his wife and brother for his issues.

[These Are The Days]

Sorry Patrick. The Chiefs can't always be on the other side of bad officiating. How many times did other teams get fucked over while you smiled and watched this year alone? 2 at least? Be happy you even have a 8-5 record. It could very well be 6-7

[Buc2]

Easy to hate. Just look at the 2 closest people he keeps around him.

I really don't think that is fair to blame his wife and brother for his issues.

I really don't think it's fair that humor escapes you.

[Grahamburn]

Surprised those two haven't joined him for the hair and shampoo commercials.

[13F11B]

I really don't think that is fair to blame his wife and brother for his issues.

I really don't think it's fair that humor escapes you.

Typical. When comedians have bad jokes they always blame it on the audience.

[Buc2]

Typical, when a single audience member doesn't understand a joke they blame the joke teller.

[Buc2]

Vikings/Raiders game is what happens when both teams are tanking.
Vikings kicker screwed up.

[13F11B]

Typical, when a single audience member doesn't understand a joke they blame the joke teller.

I understood the joke. I just thought it was a little bit to easy and obvious to be funny. It is more something to cry about.

[Buc2]

Typical, when a single audience member doesn't understand a joke they blame the joke teller.

I understood the joke. I just though it was a little bit to easy and obvious to be funny. It is more something to cry about.

No...you just have no humor. It's okay to admit it. Not everyone does.

[Jonny]

An "exposed" Jalen Hurts is 10-3 and leads the league in total TDs...But okay.

He has thrown for 19 TDs and 10 Ints. That ranks him #12 as a passer. He adds 12 TDs as a rushed (not sure how many are Philly Tush Push) and 8 fumbles. So, total that is 31 TDs and 18 turnovers.

Purdy has thrown for 25 TDs and 7 ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 8 fumbles. So, that is 27 TDs and 15 turnovers.

Prescott has thrown for 28 TDs and 6 Ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 2 fumbles. So, that is 30 TDs and 8 turnovers.

Josh Allen has thrown for 25 TDs and 14 Ints. He adds 10 rushing TDs and 4 fumbles. So, that is 35 TDs and 18 turnovers.

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So, technically Jalen doesn't lead the NFL in total TDs this season. Josh Allen does. I would say as a passer Jalen Hurts is not as good as several NFL QBs. However, as a player he is in the top five.

I would put Jalen in top 5 as well in terms of impact and not as a passer alone. But this could easily be temporary and a a couple of years from now I can easily see Hurts be considered an average or above average starter. The league severely lacks good, sound, consistent QBing unlike the previous generation. Mahomes and Burrow are the only two QBs I would put in the caliber of the upper echelon we grew up with a decade and a half back. The rest of the good guys are just versions of Cam Newton, whose play can vary wildly like Cam's did.

Then you have Dak Prescott, CJ Stroud and Deshaun Watson. Prescott I think is a good QB, but he lacks legacy defining moments. Watson needs those massages it seems like to be what he once was, a transcendent QB. Stroud is on his way to become that.

[Doctor]

We went into Atlanta and ripped the division lead from their cold dead hands.

Go us.

[13F11B]

I understood the joke. I just though it was a little bit to easy and obvious to be funny. It is more something to cry about.

No...you just have no humor. It's okay to admit it. Not everyone does.

No? Sorry, that is not how it works. I understood the joke. I just did not find it funny. It is OK that you are not funny. Not everyone is.

[13F11B]

He has thrown for 19 TDs and 10 Ints. That ranks him #12 as a passer. He adds 12 TDs as a rushed (not sure how many are Philly Tush Push) and 8 fumbles. So, total that is 31 TDs and 18 turnovers.

Purdy has thrown for 25 TDs and 7 ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 8 fumbles. So, that is 27 TDs and 15 turnovers.

Prescott has thrown for 28 TDs and 6 Ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 2 fumbles. So, that is 30 TDs and 8 turnovers.

Josh Allen has thrown for 25 TDs and 14 Ints. He adds 10 rushing TDs and 4 fumbles. So, that is 35 TDs and 18 turnovers.

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So, technically Jalen doesn't lead the NFL in total TDs this season. Josh Allen does. I would say as a passer Jalen Hurts is not as good as several NFL QBs. However, as a player he is in the top five.

I would put Jalen in top 5 as well in terms of impact and not as a passer alone. But this could easily be temporary and a a couple of years from now I can easily see Hurts be considered an average or above average starter. The league severely lacks good, sound, consistent QBing unlike the previous generation. Mahomes and Burrow are the only two QBs I would put in the caliber of the upper echelon we grew up with a decade and a half back. The rest of the good guys are just versions of Cam Newton, whose play can vary wildly like Cam's did.

Then you have Dak Prescott, CJ Stroud and Deshaun Watson. Prescott I think is a good QB, but he lacks legacy defining moments. Watson needs those massages it seems like to be what he once was, a transcendent QB. Stroud is on his way to become that.

I get that. Historically, QBs that relied on their legs to have game tend to have a very significant and severe drop off early in their career.

[Grahamburn]

We went into Atlanta and ripped the division lead from their cold dead hands.

Go us.

Our hands are going to be pretty chilly next week. How long you think we can hold on?

[Doctor]

If we can beat GB we'll take the next chance... and the next, on and on, until we win... or the chances are spent.

[Phantom]

Oh, shut up, Doctor wannabe. Just enjoy the win, kid.

[Phantom]

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[Bootz]

Denver has no tie breakers against KC. Their conference record is 4-5 while the Chiefs is 6-2.

[Doctor]

Imagine if I'd had told you week 3 then Broncos would be one game behind KC in December.

[BucsNBills]

Yeah, Mahomes lost a ton of respect tonight. Even Chiefs fans were shitting on him for crying like a bitch and cringed at him doubling down during his presser.

I'm ahead of the curve when it comes to disliking Mahomes. An early adopter if you will.

Easy to hate. Just look at the 2 closest people he keeps around him.

Yikes, no wonder Mahomes is cranky. Kelce is supposedly smashing Taylor Smith and Mahomes is coming home to the Annabelle doll and whatever that thing on the right is.

[Bootz]

As far as the Chiefs offsides call, it's really simple. Refs are supposed to, and do, warn offenses and defenses about how and where they line-up so they are in compliance.

If the offense had been warned prior to this penalty being called the Chiefs need to shut up and coach Toney to do better. If not, the refs SHOULD be held accountable but won't of course. But that flag shouldn't have been thrown.

Ask both parties if warnings were issued. Simple.

[Jonny]

As far as the Chiefs offsides call, it's really simple. Refs are supposed to, and do, warn offenses and defenses about how and where they line-up so they are in compliance.

If the offense had been warned prior to this penalty being called the Chiefs need to shut up and coach Toney to do better. If not, the refs SHOULD be held accountable but won't of course. But that flag shouldn't have been thrown.

Ask both parties if warnings were issued. Simple.

A flag was thrown 11 times earlier this season on offenses for lining up on off sides. I don't think defensive players ever get this so called warning from refs, which is why we routinely see off sides penalties called on defense. It is unfair to expect refs warn offense, but call penalty on defense, especially when the latter has always been the norm. I respect the NFL for trying to make offensive off sides the norm as well and it isn't like this penalty was called the first or second time this year.

[Doctor]

Gonna get a good look at GB tonight.

[Digital_Damage]

As far as the Chiefs offsides call, it's really simple. Refs are supposed to, and do, warn offenses and defenses about how and where they line-up so they are in compliance.

If the offense had been warned prior to this penalty being called the Chiefs need to shut up and coach Toney to do better. If not, the refs SHOULD be held accountable but won't of course. But that flag shouldn't have been thrown.

Ask both parties if warnings were issued. Simple.

Typical Ghetto mindset... "It's not illegal unless the po po tells me so".

The Refs don't have to warn them of shit, it is the player's responsibility to line up correctly.

The Vets will always check with the line judge on every down if they are lined up correctly and they will get a nod as a courtesy. Doofus did not check with the line judge. Reid and Mahomes look like fucking idiots for crying over something that was an obvious penalty as stated in the rule book... you know what is not in the rule book? Getting a warning telling you that your player is a mental midget.

[Jonny]

The race war has begun.

[Digital_Damage]

He has thrown for 19 TDs and 10 Ints. That ranks him #12 as a passer. He adds 12 TDs as a rushed (not sure how many are Philly Tush Push) and 8 fumbles. So, total that is 31 TDs and 18 turnovers.

Purdy has thrown for 25 TDs and 7 ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 8 fumbles. So, that is 27 TDs and 15 turnovers.

Prescott has thrown for 28 TDs and 6 Ints. He adds 2 rushing TDs and 2 fumbles. So, that is 30 TDs and 8 turnovers.

Josh Allen has thrown for 25 TDs and 14 Ints. He adds 10 rushing TDs and 4 fumbles. So, that is 35 TDs and 18 turnovers.

----
So, technically Jalen doesn't lead the NFL in total TDs this season. Josh Allen does. I would say as a passer Jalen Hurts is not as good as several NFL QBs. However, as a player he is in the top five.

I would put Jalen in top 5 as well in terms of impact and not as a passer alone. But this could easily be temporary and a a couple of years from now I can easily see Hurts be considered an average or above average starter. The league severely lacks good, sound, consistent QBing unlike the previous generation. Mahomes and Burrow are the only two QBs I would put in the caliber of the upper echelon we grew up with a decade and a half back. The rest of the good guys are just versions of Cam Newton, whose play can vary wildly like Cam's did.

Then you have Dak Prescott, CJ Stroud and Deshaun Watson. Prescott I think is a good QB, but he lacks legacy defining moments. Watson needs those massages it seems like to be what he once was, a transcendent QB. Stroud is on his way to become that.

Deshaun Watson is toast... he is not coming back.

It has been a down year for QB play and so the average is looking above average.

[Digital_Damage]

The race war has begun.

That would be a neat trick... Considering we are the same race...

I think a better drive-by would have been "The Class war has begun."

[TonyLip]

Hope it’s warmer in GB Sunday
Per ‘Woeful’s press box’ website

* In their history, the Bucs are 0-13 in games played outdoors where the temperature was under 32 degrees. In fact, Tampa Bay is 21-64 (.247 winning percentage) all-time in regular season and playoff games where the temperature is under 50 degrees.

Unless you heard different…

We did lose in OT to GB 17-14 in 15 degree weather.

[Grahamburn]

Hope it’s warmer in GB Sunday
Per ‘Woeful’s press box’ website

* In their history, the Bucs are 0-13 in games played outdoors where the temperature was under 32 degrees. In fact, Tampa Bay is 21-64 (.247 winning percentage) all-time in regular season and playoff games where the temperature is under 50 degrees.

Unless you heard different…

We did lose in OT to GB 17-14 in 15 degree weather.

1-0 When It Mattered Most

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