Week 13 Discussion

[13F11B]

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

Wait... Why isn't Trask the starter if he has better inherant skills than Baker? Baker ain't garbage, mind you, but if Trask has more raw talent, shouldn't he be on the field?

Raw talent is not the only factor to on the field performance. Raw talent might not outweigh experience.

[Snake]

Some people here wanted this kid. I may have been one. I really don’t remember…



Edit: welp another doctor L

Too handsy for my taste. Prefer Ringo over Porter Jr.

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[Phantom]

I like the Seahawks throwback uniform

[Snake]

I like the Seahawks throwback uniform

I’m really digging all the throwbacks I’ve seen.

[Moozician]

Wait... Why isn't Trask the starter if he has better inherant skills than Baker? Baker ain't garbage, mind you, but if Trask has more raw talent, shouldn't he be on the field?

Raw talent is not the only factor to on the field performance. Raw talent might not outweigh experience.

How long have we had Trask?

[Phantom]

DK Metcalf is having a fantastic night.

[mdb1958]

Have not watched the game tonight, only been checking the boxscore and play by play.

They are making the NFL game into college football.

[13F11B]

Raw talent is not the only factor to on the field performance. Raw talent might not outweigh experience.

How long have we had Trask?

I am sure you have the skill to look that up. Not relevant though.

[Moozician]

How long have we had Trask?

I am sure you have the skill to look that up. Not relevant though.

Sure it is. Trask has been here going on his third season. The Bucs are 4-7... losing 6 out of the last 7 games. Yet you believe that Trask's "inexperience" is the reason he's not on the field?

[13F11B]

I am sure you have the skill to look that up. Not relevant though.

Sure it is. Trask has been here going on his third season. The Bucs are 4-7... losing 6 out of the last 7 games. Yet you believe that Trask's "inexperience" is the reason he's not on the field?

I think judging a QB who has not seen real game action just because a bad coaching staff hasn't decided to start them is not a good method. That is what you are doing. By your 'standard' guys like Kyle Orton, Mike Glennon, DeShone Kizer, Kyle Boller, EJ Manuel, and Mark Sanchez would all be amazing QBs with loads of talent. Guys like Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Michael Vick would all not have talent.

I am not saying Trask would be a success. I am saying that we have no idea what he would achieve until he gets game time with the starters against other starters. If you think otherwise, you are more than welcome to your opinion. I just disagree with you.

[GreatTimes]

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

Wait... Why isn't Trask the starter if he has better inherant skills than Baker? Baker ain't garbage, mind you, but if Trask has more raw talent, shouldn't he be on the field?

Yes, Trask should be on the field. He isn't because Bowles promised Mayfield that Mayfield would be the starting QB if he signed with the Bucs. Bowles made a big mistake playing Mayfield over Trask.

[Grahamburn]

I wonder if he pinky swore?

[Doctor]

Some people here wanted this kid. I may have been one. I really don’t remember…



Edit: welp another doctor L

Too handsy for my taste. Prefer Ringo over Porter Jr.

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Put it on the pile.

Good for him though.

[Doctor]

Wait... Why isn't Trask the starter if he has better inherant skills than Baker? Baker ain't garbage, mind you, but if Trask has more raw talent, shouldn't he be on the field?

Yes, Trask should be on the field. He isn't because Bowles promised Mayfield that Mayfield would be the starting QB if he signed with the Bucs. Bowles made a big mistake playing Mayfield over Trask.

This seems narrow minded.

I think the conversation and plan is every bit what they have said it's been. Finding a true winning combo of OC, system, and QB isn't easy. In fact its the number one reason people get fired.

Everyone and their mother knows this upcoming class is thick. If there's a guy sitting there that Licht, Bowles, and Canales love, we'll take him. But until then, you see if maybe there's something behind another door.

And while Trask was definitely a door they've seen develop and are excited about, two rolls are better than one. Enter Baker.

Listen, say what you will he fits the culture very well. People respond to him. He can pick up the system by mid-season. And if we can protect the ball and get rolling, maybe he pulls off another playoff miracle.

And if not... if we get eliminated its Trask time. Gets a few games to solidify the "start the vet week 1" bit and learn by fire. Then he'll be the one trying to get and keep a hot start for his job. Maybe he does it. Maybe he wows us and forces us to double FT him in back to back years. Or maybe he flounders early or gets hurt and it's rookie time.

And don't buy into savior dogma that the rookie is a truth. His storyline is far more likely to mimic the other two's than not. But it's the next door. So we take it.

Your new OC and regime get to test 3 doors in 2 years, during which you're paying off a huge debt anyway.

It's a pretty clear and concise plan.

[13F11B]

Wait... Why isn't Trask the starter if he has better inherant skills than Baker? Baker ain't garbage, mind you, but if Trask has more raw talent, shouldn't he be on the field?

Yes, Trask should be on the field. He isn't because Bowles promised Mayfield that Mayfield would be the starting QB if he signed with the Bucs. Bowles made a big mistake playing Mayfield over Trask.

I would not go that far.

[13F11B]

Listen, say what you will he fits the culture very well. People respond to him. He can pick up the system by mid-season. And if we can protect the ball and get rolling, maybe he pulls off another playoff miracle.

Mid-Season? When is mid-season? January?

[Navybuc]

Yes, Trask should be on the field. He isn't because Bowles promised Mayfield that Mayfield would be the starting QB if he signed with the Bucs. Bowles made a big mistake playing Mayfield over Trask.

If there's a guy sitting there that Licht, Bowles, and Canales love, we'll take him.

Is this a typo? You included Bowles and Canales as part of the draft prep for next year. You actually think they’re gonna be here?

Hell, they may not be here next week at this time if they don’t win this Sunday.

[Phantom]

Are we going to root for Bryce Young then?

[Doctor]

If there's a guy sitting there that Licht, Bowles, and Canales love, we'll take him.

Is this a typo? You included Bowles and Canales as part of the draft prep for next year. You actually think they’re gonna be here?

Hell, they may not be here next week at this time if they don’t win this Sunday.

Finish reading the post.

Yeah. Plan has been pretty clear from the start.

What, you think Licht just walked into the meeting, did a line of blow off the Glazers desk and yelled "Baker Super Bowl!"

[Buc2]

Is this a typo? You included Bowles and Canales as part of the draft prep for next year. You actually think they’re gonna be here?

Hell, they may not be here next week at this time if they don’t win this Sunday.

Finish reading the post.

Yeah. Plan has been pretty clear from the start.

What, you think Licht just walked into the meeting, did a line of blow off the Glazers desk and yelled "Baker Super Bowl!"

Not gonna lie. The visual gave me a chuckle.

[Snake]

I predict that Staley will get fired if they lose to New England today

[Bootz]

How tf do you let Tyreek Hill get behind you?
Guaranteed 6

[TonyLip]

This Lions game is a hoot!!!!

[BucsNBills]

I predict that Staley will get fired if they lose to New England today

It would be great if Herbert had some competence around him.. He'd be a perennial playoff QB if he could just play with a bad defense, but Staley can't even muster that.

Speaking of defensive geniuses, wonder if Bowles will give up another rookie QB record today?

[Bootz]

I predict that Staley will get fired if they lose to New England today

It would be great if Herbert had some competence around him.. He'd be a perennial playoff QB if he could just play with a bad defense, but Staley can't even muster that.

All that tells me is he can't elevate a team to win games in the way real elite QBs can. But surely HC #3 will do the trick for him

[BucsNBills]

It would be great if Herbert had some competence around him.. He'd be a perennial playoff QB if he could just play with a bad defense, but Staley can't even muster that.

All that tells me is he can't elevate a team to win games in the way real elite QBs can. But surely HC #3 will do the trick for him

He has, he's the only reason they're competitive and winning more than 1 game a year. Staley's defense is just that bad. But that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're making your incorrect statement in good faith and not due to Herbert being white.

[Snake]

It’s too bad Herbert dropped that great pass.

[Bootz]

Beautiful pick by Van Ginkle. Miami with a defense is gonna be very hard to beat.

[Bootz]

All that tells me is he can't elevate a team to win games in the way real elite QBs can. But surely HC #3 will do the trick for him

He has, he's the only reason they're competitive and winning more than 1 game a year. Staley's defense is just that bad. But that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're making your incorrect statement in good faith and not due to Herbert being white.

Competitive?? They have the same record as the Bucs do. For his career he's 2 games under .500. That doesn't sound very "competitive".

[Snake]

Announcers in Chargers game talking about how the Chargers defense consistently lets the team down at the end of games. Leading to losses.

[Bootz]

How tf do you let Tyreek Hill get behind you?
Guaranteed 6

[Snake]

Archuleta is a rough listen. Wow.

[13F11B]

Officials are screwing the Jets on thie Falcons drive. My lord, they want to gift 7 to the Falcons.

[TonyLip]

Lions letting the Saints claw all the way back in.
Jeeez…

Lions OC going conservative…

[Snake]

Chargers defensive collapse imminent.