Week 13 Discussion

[Grahamburn]

As you pointed out we still have a year to find that out.

Do what now?

[Doctor]

You want to find out what we have in Trask. I'm pointing out we still have a year to find that out.

[Buc2]

So, our corners are mostly just average with Dean being closer to elite.

Another thing that stands out to me is that the AFC has way more elite corners than the NFC does.

If you look at where these corners stack up, you notice too that teammates are generally in the same area on the chart. Corner might be the ultimate iron sharpens iron position

Good point. While there are exceptions, that is generally true looking at that graphic. In that vein, Dean is excelling despite his teammates. Makes me wonder how good he be with better production opposite him.

[mdb1958]

So, our corners are mostly just average with Dean being closer to elite.

Another thing that stands out to me is that the AFC has way more elite corners than the NFC does.

If you look at where these corners stack up, you notice too that teammates are generally in the same area on the chart. Corner might be the ultimate iron sharpens iron position

Without play success it's a worthless chart and even then without adding many other variables it's still a worthless chart.

[mdb1958]

What was the success rate with Shaq Griffin

[Buc2]

What was the success rate with Shaq Griffin

Here you go...

[mdb1958]

What was the success rate with Shaq Griffin

Here you go...

I doubt teams want to let out same year success rates. Who knows if the data boys are even truthful. Low targeted players that don't allow separation means a QB would rather not throw that way - high target could mean a QB could complete a pass while they rub elbows.

[Grahamburn]

You want to find out what we have in Trask. I'm pointing out we still have a year to find that out.

Wouldn’t you want to know this year? We may need to pull a Washington circa 2012 type move.

[Doctor]

It's Trask time when we're out of the playoff hunt.

Not really.

Idealist will hate this but there really isn't going to be much Trask can do to stop is from drafting a QB early if we like the options there. Just from a position of hedging your bets on the most important position.

His real chance will come when he gets the nod over the rookie week 1 next year.

[acmillis]

It's Trask time when we're out of the playoff hunt.

Not really.

Idealist will hate this but there really isn't going to be much Trask can do to stop is from drafting a QB early if we like the options there. Just from a position of hedging your bets on the most important position.

His real chance will come when he gets the nod over the rookie week 1 next year.

See, the problem with waiting until we're out of the playoff hunt, is that we're not a good team, however, our division is so atrocious, we probably will be in the hunt the whole way. We have no business being in the playoffs because we won't be competitive against the 5 seed, which will most likely be either the Cowboys or the Eagles.

[Phantom]

The first-ever Monday Night Football flex: the NFL is flexing Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce off of Monday Night Football in Week 15, replacing the Dec. 18 Chiefs at Patriots game with Eagles at Seahawks.

Eagles now will have three consecutive standalone games from Weeks 14-16:

Week 14: at Dallas on SNF

Week 15: at Seattle on MNF

Week 16: Giants on Christmas Day

[Snake]

It *appears* Von Miller is a domestically violent piece of shit a la Tyreek Hill.

That’s too bad.

[kaimaru]

C) Many of us feel Trask is an inexperienced player with more raw talent upside than Mayfield.

GTFO with that take

[Doctor]

It's Trask time when we're out of the playoff hunt.

See, the problem with waiting until we're out of the playoff hunt, is that we're not a good team, however, our division is so atrocious, we probably will be in the hunt the whole way. We have no business being in the playoffs because we won't be competitive against the 5 seed, which will most likely be either the Cowboys or the Eagles.

Except you don't know any of that. We still haven't gotten to December football yet.

Are these teams further along? Sure. They should be. But we've kept things close when playing far from our best ball all year. If we can just close out some of those mistakes over the next few weeks even better.

[Buc2]

See, the problem with waiting until we're out of the playoff hunt, is that we're not a good team, however, our division is so atrocious, we probably will be in the hunt the whole way. We have no business being in the playoffs because we won't be competitive against the 5 seed, which will most likely be either the Cowboys or the Eagles.

Except you don't know any of that. We still haven't gotten to December football yet.

Are these teams further along? Sure. They should be. But we've kept things close when playing far from our best ball all year. If we can just close out some of those mistakes over the next few weeks even better.

Just give them more time. Lmao!

What’s it gonna take to get those pewter colored glasses off your face?

[13F11B]

C) Many of us feel Trask is an inexperienced player with more raw talent upside than Mayfield.

GTFO with that take

Fuck you I can have my opinion.

[Doctor]

Except you don't know any of that. We still haven't gotten to December football yet.

Are these teams further along? Sure. They should be. But we've kept things close when playing far from our best ball all year. If we can just close out some of those mistakes over the next few weeks even better.

Just give them more time. Lmao!

What’s it gonna take to get those pewter colored glasses off your face?

Don't get me wrong, it's not very likely. It's likely we don't make the playoffs at all, we're 4-7.

It's likely Baker isn't the guy. It's likely Trask isn't. It's likely the first round rookie we get isn't. Because that's the NFL.

But you know what, I've seen Drew Brees light it up after been written off, seen a back up QB defeat the GOAT, seen Rodgers rise after 4 years on the bench.

I've seen QBs come from all neck of the woods with all kinds of story arcs.

So, yeah, as we're working through our process I try to keep in mind what each avenue could bring, likely or not.

[Bootz]

GTFO with that take

Fuck you I can have my opinion.

I think the part he's disputing is "many of us".
No one with sense thinks Kyle Trask has more raw talent than Baker Mayfield except you.

[13F11B]

Fuck you I can have my opinion.

I think the part he's disputing is "many of us".
No one with sense thinks Kyle Trask has more raw talent than Baker Mayfield except you.

Fuck you with a broom stick twice. That is still my opinion. All I need to do is find one person who thinks Trask has more raw talent than Mayfield for you to be wrong. You would have to ask every fucking person on the planet including Trask and everyone in his family. If even one of them says they believe he has more raw talent you would also be wrong.

Loser, loser... no chicken dinner for you.

[13F11B]

@Bootz Hmmm...

[Bootz]

I think the part he's disputing is "many of us".
No one with sense thinks Kyle Trask has more raw talent than Baker Mayfield except you.

Fuck you with a broom stick twice. That is still my opinion. All I need to do is find one person who thinks Trask has more raw talent than Mayfield for you to be wrong. You would have to ask every fucking person on the planet including Trask and everyone in his family. If even one of them says they believe he has more raw talent you would also be wrong.

Loser, loser... no chicken dinner for you.

No I wouldn't be wrong. I did say "no one with sense". All you'd have done is found another person without sense.

Let's do this, and I'm gonna call your bluff. Tell us what how Trask has more raw talent t than Baker. Raw talent is easily identified. It's tangible. So this shouldn't be a problem. I'm listening.

[13F11B]

Fuck you with a broom stick twice. That is still my opinion. All I need to do is find one person who thinks Trask has more raw talent than Mayfield for you to be wrong. You would have to ask every fucking person on the planet including Trask and everyone in his family. If even one of them says they believe he has more raw talent you would also be wrong.

Loser, loser... no chicken dinner for you.

No I wouldn't be wrong. I did say "no one with sense". All you'd have done is found another person without sense.

Let's do this, and I'm gonna call your bluff. Tell us what how Trask has more raw talent t than Baker. Raw talent is easily identified. It's tangible. So this shouldn't be a problem. I'm listening.

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

[Bootz]

No I wouldn't be wrong. I did say "no one with sense". All you'd have done is found another person without sense.

Let's do this, and I'm gonna call your bluff. Tell us what how Trask has more raw talent t than Baker. Raw talent is easily identified. It's tangible. So this shouldn't be a problem. I'm listening.

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

What throws CANT Baker Mayfield make?

[13F11B]

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

What throws CANT Baker Mayfield make?

The ones that require him to be taller. That was obvious.

[Bootz]

What throws CANT Baker Mayfield make?

The ones that require him to be taller. That was obvious.

LMAO!!!!! HA!!

Oh we’re done here, kiddo. No way I’m entertaining this idiocy

[Bootz]

Pretty sure DK Metcalf will get a “random” drug test tomorrow.

[mdb1958]

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

What throws CANT Baker Mayfield make?

Winning one's. Lately..

[13F11B]

The ones that require him to be taller. That was obvious.

LMAO!!!!! HA!!

Oh we’re done here, kiddo. No way I’m entertaining this idiocy

Oh, so you are calling NFL GMs idiots now? Why aren't you running a franchise then?

[13F11B]

Pretty sure DK Metcalf will get a “random” drug test tomorrow.

Why did you rat him out?

[GreatTimes]

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

What throws CANT Baker Mayfield make?

Accurate downfield throws.

[Bootz]

I don’t think that’s a TD, but I don’t think it’s enough to overturn it.

Looks like it was enough to overturn it.

[Grahamburn]

Watching both of these coaches be so engaged. Carroll calling timeouts to get his team the ball back. McCarthy doing the same to protect his defense. Both of them up and down the sideline. Wish we had one that gave a crap.

Just arms folded derp face looking around asking what he should do…

[wesmon]

Watching both of these coaches be so engaged. Carroll calling timeouts to get his team the ball back. McCarthy doing the same to protect his defense. Both of them up and down the sideline. Wish we had one that gave a crap.

Just arms folded derp face looking around asking what he should do…

Pete Carroll is a great coach. Mike McCarthy is Mike McCarthy, probably headed for another one of his patented late season collapses.

[Moozician]

No I wouldn't be wrong. I did say "no one with sense". All you'd have done is found another person without sense.

Let's do this, and I'm gonna call your bluff. Tell us what how Trask has more raw talent t than Baker. Raw talent is easily identified. It's tangible. So this shouldn't be a problem. I'm listening.

That is easy. Even a blind loser like you can't deny this one and retain any credibility.

Kyle has shown he is that big, strong presence in the pocket and can make some of those natural throws because of his height that Baker can’t

Wait... Why isn't Trask the starter if he has better inherant skills than Baker? Baker ain't garbage, mind you, but if Trask has more raw talent, shouldn't he be on the field?

[wesmon]

Refs sure have their foot on the scale for the Cowboys on this drive