Next win?

[13F11B]

Given what we have seen, what is the next win for the Buccaneers?

Colts?
Panthers?

Will Bowles get his head out of his ass?
Does the team have any hope of turning this shit show around?

[Bootz]

The Bucs are who they are. I think the 3-1 start gave people a lot of false hope. But this isn't a good team. It was never gonna be a good team this year. Not with everything we were up against. Aging roster, nearly a 3rd of it allocated for players who won't play a single down for this team, 1st time OC calling plays for the 1st time as well since he coached high school 14 years ago. The Bucs are playing no worse than I expected this year all things considering.

[Cheb]

The Bucs are who they are. I think the 3-1 start gave people a lot of false hope. But this isn't a good team. It was never gonna be a good team this year. Not with everything we were up against. Aging roster, nearly a 3rd of it allocated for players who won't play a single down for this team, 1st time OC calling plays for the 1st time as well since he coached high school 14 years ago. The Bucs are playing no worse than I expected this year all things considering.

I wish I could argue with you, but our record is our record and I agree. I think there's an opportunity for Bowles to keep his job moving forward, but if we continue on our current trajectory of offensive ineptitude I could see him getting the boot. Canales for sure. Maybe Licht as well.

As far as our next win, I think the Bills are going to slap us in Buffalo on Thursday. I think the Texans are trending in the right direction while we are the inverse, so it wouldn't surprise me if we are underdogs in Houston in two weeks. I like our chances vs the Titans in three weeks at home, they are having a rough year thus far.

We will see how the rest of the year trends. And it's not like we can blame injury or inexperience. We have little of the former and plenty of the latter; we just can't put points on the board.

[13F11B]

The Bucs are who they are. I think the 3-1 start gave people a lot of false hope. But this isn't a good team. It was never gonna be a good team this year. Not with everything we were up against. Aging roster, nearly a 3rd of it allocated for players who won't play a single down for this team, 1st time OC calling plays for the 1st time as well since he coached high school 14 years ago. The Bucs are playing no worse than I expected this year all things considering.

Canales is not helped by the fact that the HC can't call a decent defense. I bet in practice his offense tears it up. Need to go against a better D in practice to have a clue how to face one in a real game.

[acmillis]

The Bucs are who they are. I think the 3-1 start gave people a lot of false hope. But this isn't a good team. It was never gonna be a good team this year. Not with everything we were up against. Aging roster, nearly a 3rd of it allocated for players who won't play a single down for this team, 1st time OC calling plays for the 1st time as well since he coached high school 14 years ago. The Bucs are playing no worse than I expected this year all things considering.

Canales is not helped by the fact that the HC can't call a decent defense. I bet in practice his offense tears it up. Need to go against a better D in practice to have a clue how to face one in a real game.

We’re giving up 17.3 PPG… that’s reeeaasllllyyyy good

[13F11B]

Canales is not helped by the fact that the HC can't call a decent defense. I bet in practice his offense tears it up. Need to go against a better D in practice to have a clue how to face one in a real game.

We’re giving up 17.3 PPG… that’s reeeaasllllyyyy good

If you base it on points only... sure. That is why the defense held the Falcons down at the end of the game and did not allow them to score a game-winning field goal.

The current average across the NFL is 39% third down success rate. That’s 39% percent of the time a team will successfully convert on third down. Right now the Buccaneers defense is allowing a conversion rate of 49.6%. A full 10.6% above the average.

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[13F11B]

We’re giving up 17.3 PPG… that’s reeeaasllllyyyy good

If you base it on points only... sure. That is why the defense held the Falcons down at the end of the game and did not allow them to score a game-winning field goal.

The current average across the NFL is 39% third down success rate. That’s 39% percent of the time a team will successfully convert on third down. Right now the Buccaneers defense is allowing a conversion rate of 49.6%. A full 10.6% above the average.

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This week the Falcons converted on 53% of their 3rd downs.

I will rest on my claim that this defense is bad.

[Miller4Prez64]

Saying the defense is bad is stretching it, IMO. There is no denying there are not getting it done on 3rd down though.

I also agree they aren’t getting enough blame for letting the Falcons win the game with 45 seconds left when they got the ball. Especially with a team like Atlanta with a strength of running the ball.

[GreatTimes]

If Atlanta QB Ridder wasn't doing his best Kirk Cousins impressions of fumbling the ball away, the game wouldn't have been close.

[GreatTimes]

If Atlanta QB Ridder wasn't doing his best Kirk Cousins impressions of fumbling the ball away, the game wouldn't have been close.

[13F11B]

Saying the defense is bad is stretching it, IMO. There is no denying there are not getting it done on 3rd down though.

Below average? Would that be better?

The Buccaneers rank 14th for drives that end in a score.
THeir blitz percentage is 40.4% (3rd most in the league), yet they rank 21st in hurry percentage at 6.6%, 23rd in QB knocked down, 22nd in pressure percentage (hurry + knock down).

Not good, that is for sure.

[Doctor]

Thursday

[13F11B]

Thursday

That would be the most shocking NFL upset in the last 20 years.

[Snake]

I think the Bills missed their window.

Bucs could find themselves with a W if Allen fucks up a few times.

[acmillis]

We’re giving up 17.3 PPG… that’s reeeaasllllyyyy good

If you base it on points only... sure. That is why the defense held the Falcons down at the end of the game and did not allow them to score a game-winning field goal.

The current average across the NFL is 39% third down success rate. That’s 39% percent of the time a team will successfully convert on third down. Right now the Buccaneers defense is allowing a conversion rate of 49.6%. A full 10.6% above the average.

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That’s like saying our 2021 offense sucked because we had a bottom five rushing attack….when we were scoring 30/game.
The goal isn’t to be good on third down, have good pressure rates, etc. the goal is to not allow points.

[13F11B]

If you base it on points only... sure. That is why the defense held the Falcons down at the end of the game and did not allow them to score a game-winning field goal.



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That’s like saying our 2021 offense sucked because we had a bottom five rushing attack….when we were scoring 30/game.
The goal isn’t to be good on third down, have good pressure rates, etc. the goal is to not allow points.

I heard that stopping teams on 3rd down is KEY to not allowing points. I could be wrong though.

You may have missed that they rank 14th for drives that end in a score. Not good. Mediocre.

[Buc2]

I think the Bills missed their window.

Bucs could find themselves with a W if Allen fucks up a few times.

You mean like Ridder did?

[Jonny]

If you base it on points only... sure. That is why the defense held the Falcons down at the end of the game and did not allow them to score a game-winning field goal.



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That’s like saying our 2021 offense sucked because we had a bottom five rushing attack….when we were scoring 30/game.
The goal isn’t to be good on third down, have good pressure rates, etc. the goal is to not allow points.

We were saved by Ridder's fumbles. Fumbles are fluky and especially the TD run that turned into a touchback or that unforced fumble at 1 yd line were perfect examples of fluky. Great on defense to capitalize on their mistakes. But a good defense also starts with being suffocating. Bucs have hardly been that. Ridder passed effortlessly throughout the game yesterday. So did Goff.

Yes Bucs are meeting the goal of not allowing points. But it is obvious to me that very soon the day will come when teams start putting up points in bunches. Offenses in general are struggling across the board in NFL. I will contend that our defense is a fraud that will be exposed soon.

[acmillis]

That’s like saying our 2021 offense sucked because we had a bottom five rushing attack….when we were scoring 30/game.
The goal isn’t to be good on third down, have good pressure rates, etc. the goal is to not allow points.

We were saved by Ridder's fumbles. Fumbles are fluky and especially the TD run that turned into a touchback or that unforced fumble at 1 yd line were perfect examples of fluky. Great on defense to capitalize on their mistakes. But a good defense also starts with being suffocating. Bucs have hardly been that. Ridder passed effortlessly throughout the game yesterday. So did Goff.

Yes Bucs are meeting the goal of not allowing points. But it is obvious to me that very soon the day will come when teams start putting up points in bunches. Offenses in general are struggling across the board in NFL. I will contend that our defense is a fraud that will be exposed soon.

[Redrum]

Thursday

The Bills are actually very beatable right now. If there is a team we could get the run game going against it's them. They've allowed 5.2 ypc this year on the ground. Also we have the team speed to swarm Allen. I worry about covering Diggs though.

[13F11B]

Thursday

The Bills are actually very beatable right now. If there is a team we could get the run game going against it's them. They've allowed 5.2 ypc this year on the ground. Also we have the team speed to swarm Allen. I worry about covering Diggs though.

Atlanta was very beatable. VERY, VERY beatable and Bowles Buccaneers fumbled that away.

[Redrum]

The Bills are actually very beatable right now. If there is a team we could get the run game going against it's them. They've allowed 5.2 ypc this year on the ground. Also we have the team speed to swarm Allen. I worry about covering Diggs though.

Atlanta was very beatable. VERY, VERY beatable and Bowles Buccaneers fumbled that away.

That's true. I'm not betting my house on it or anything I'm just saying there is a chance.

[13F11B]

Atlanta was very beatable. VERY, VERY beatable and Bowles Buccaneers fumbled that away.

That's true. I'm not betting my house on it or anything I'm just saying there is a chance.

Yes, I agree. There is also a chance a blind squirrel finds a nut.

[Xandtar]

Bills.

Why the hell not, they're not all that anymore. And if there was ever a time for a team to overlook us on a short week, this is it. We might get lucky, it happens sometimes, and get a turnover or two we didn't really deserve, this time for points.

[Backside]

If we get smashed by the Bills I'm going to start caring less and less about that next win. I was planning to be tracking the draft pick most of the season anyway, I'm still fine with that scenario.

[Kress]

You know what's going to happen this week, don't you?

We're going to EXPLODE for 31 points. Balanced attack, gaining chunk yards at will, just a thing of beauty. Baker will be baking, Evans and Godwin will each have over 100 with a td, while White has 120 on the ground plus two tuddies of his own. Pure awesomeness.

Oh, and the Bills will score 32.

[Buc2]

You know what's going to happen this week, don't you?

We're going to EXPLODE for 31 points. Balanced attack, gaining chunk yards at will, just a thing of beauty. Baker will be baking, Evans and Godwin will each have over 100 with a td, while White has 120 on the ground plus two tuddies of his own. Pure awesomeness.

Oh, and the Bills will score 32.

#itsabucslife

[kaimaru]

You know what's going to happen this week, don't you?

We're going to EXPLODE for 31 points. Balanced attack, gaining chunk yards at will, just a thing of beauty. Baker will be baking, Evans and Godwin will each have over 100 with a td, while White has 120 on the ground plus two tuddies of his own. Pure awesomeness.

Oh, and the Bills will score 32.

Yeah, Bowles said this week (and only this week) no personnel changes. The only thing he did say was that he was no longer demanding we run the ball. So there is hope we only lose by one. Good luck

[Phantom]

BUFFALO!!!

[Buc2]

BUFFALO!!!

I must have missed the news. Is Trask starting?

[Phantom]

BUFFALO!!!

I must have missed the news. Is Trask starting?

Nope. Thank the lord!!!

[Backside]

We are at the 'thank the lord for Baker Mayfield' portion of the season.

[Phantom]

Once again, thank the lord..


Trask sucks. I don't know why Buc2 is rooting for him.

[BucsNBills]

At this rate, or next win might not be until next April if we can manage to draft Caleb.

[IronDog]

The next win?????

It'll be a win if the season ends and we have the 3 wins on our record that we had no business getting..