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Re: Rapid Reactions: Bucs lose to the Falcons 16-13

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I think David Cannales seems like a nice dude, but at this point our offense just ain't passing muster.

Through six games, the offense has scored a mere 9 touchdowns. Four of those touchdowns, nearly half, have been throws to Mike Evans. Chris Godwin hasn't seen the end zone yet. We have one rushing touchdown and the worst rushing game in football.

The average scoring offense in the NFL entering this game was averaging a little over 22 points a game. If the Bucs scored 22 a game, we would beat both the Falcons and Lions and be 5-1 right now.

Changes need to be made on offense. Big ones.
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Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:13 pm I think David Cannales seems like a nice dude, but at this point our offense just ain't passing muster.

Through six games, the offense has scored a mere 9 touchdowns. Four of those touchdowns, nearly half, have been throws to Mike Evans. Chris Godwin hasn't seen the end zone yet. We have one rushing touchdown and the worst rushing game in football.

The average scoring offense in the NFL entering this game was averaging a little over 22 points a game. If the Bucs scored 22 a game, we would beat both the Falcons and Lions and be 5-1 right now.

Changes need to be made on offense. Big ones.
Right after they fire Todd Bowles.
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Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:13 pm I think David Cannales seems like a nice dude, but at this point our offense just ain't passing muster.

Through six games, the offense has scored a mere 9 touchdowns. Four of those touchdowns, nearly half, have been throws to Mike Evans. Chris Godwin hasn't seen the end zone yet. We have one rushing touchdown and the worst rushing game in football.

The average scoring offense in the NFL entering this game was averaging a little over 22 points a game. If the Bucs scored 22 a game, we would beat both the Falcons and Lions and be 5-1 right now.

Changes need to be made on offense. Big ones.
The entire offense needs to be rebuilt. We all love Mike but he will be 31 next year even if he stays. Godwin has 1 year left on his deal and isn’t a WR1. Literally everyone but Wirfs is not an ideal piece moving forward.
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Snake wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 pm Roster churn in the NFL is expected. Granted.

One wonders what things are gonna look like next season. Baker is probably gone, Mike Evans is probably gone. you’re inserting either another retread starting quarterback, or a rookie.

You should be in a better cap situation, but to merely retain some different makers you’re gonna be spending a bunch.

I do find it hard to be optimistic when the offense needs this much work. And if you bring baker back, it instantly puts a ceiling on the offense.

I wonder if this front office is capable of an actual rebuild. They seem quite delusional about the potential of the team. Licht was certain he had a good team this year.

It does seem that a full rebuild is due, from the GM and coaching staff on down.
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Need to see if Trask can be a NFL caliber QB before thinking about drafting another QB.
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wesmon wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:19 pm
Snake wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 pm Roster churn in the NFL is expected. Granted.

One wonders what things are gonna look like next season. Baker is probably gone, Mike Evans is probably gone. you’re inserting either another retread starting quarterback, or a rookie.

You should be in a better cap situation, but to merely retain some different makers you’re gonna be spending a bunch.

I do find it hard to be optimistic when the offense needs this much work. And if you bring baker back, it instantly puts a ceiling on the offense.

I wonder if this front office is capable of an actual rebuild. They seem quite delusional about the potential of the team. Licht was certain he had a good team this year.

It does seem that a full rebuild is due, from the GM and coaching staff on down.
Yeah. I think Licht is part of the problem. His talent finding ability seems to be below average.
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Two games, one touchdown. Again, I say that everyone is touting Canales as an offensive guru. I just don't see it
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Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:13 pm I think David Cannales seems like a nice dude, but at this point our offense just ain't passing muster.

Through six games, the offense has scored a mere 9 touchdowns. Four of those touchdowns, nearly half, have been throws to Mike Evans. Chris Godwin hasn't seen the end zone yet. We have one rushing touchdown and the worst rushing game in football.

The average scoring offense in the NFL entering this game was averaging a little over 22 points a game. If the Bucs scored 22 a game, we would beat both the Falcons and Lions and be 5-1 right now.

Changes need to be made on offense. Big ones.
Is it play calling? Has seemed to me players are schemed open. Baker is missing them or throwing to the wrong read. At least the last two weeks. The plays are there.
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:14 pm
Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:13 pm I think David Cannales seems like a nice dude, but at this point our offense just ain't passing muster.

Through six games, the offense has scored a mere 9 touchdowns. Four of those touchdowns, nearly half, have been throws to Mike Evans. Chris Godwin hasn't seen the end zone yet. We have one rushing touchdown and the worst rushing game in football.

The average scoring offense in the NFL entering this game was averaging a little over 22 points a game. If the Bucs scored 22 a game, we would beat both the Falcons and Lions and be 5-1 right now.

Changes need to be made on offense. Big ones.
Right after they fire Todd Bowles.
You're going to look like LUGZ if he wins the division.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:29 pm
Cheb wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:13 pm I think David Cannales seems like a nice dude, but at this point our offense just ain't passing muster.

Through six games, the offense has scored a mere 9 touchdowns. Four of those touchdowns, nearly half, have been throws to Mike Evans. Chris Godwin hasn't seen the end zone yet. We have one rushing touchdown and the worst rushing game in football.

The average scoring offense in the NFL entering this game was averaging a little over 22 points a game. If the Bucs scored 22 a game, we would beat both the Falcons and Lions and be 5-1 right now.

Changes need to be made on offense. Big ones.
Is it play calling? Has seemed to me players are schemed open. Baker is missing them or throwing to the wrong read. At least the last two weeks. The plays are there.
I would agree with this. I think Trask would have done a better job. But Bowles like guys with Moxie.
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GreatTimes wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:27 pm Need to see if Trask can be a NFL caliber QB before thinking about drafting another QB.
We really don’t, but I wouldn’t mind just giving him a shot anyways at this point. Not against Buffalo on a short week, maybe the week after we can start him if Baker lays an egg on national TV.
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_MB_ wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:31 pm
13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:14 pm

Right after they fire Todd Bowles.
You're going to look like LUGZ if he wins the division.
I won't look anything like Lugz unless I already do. My genetics is not changing based on the crappy play of division opponents.
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Going 8-9 or 9-8 and getting BTFO in the first round means very little.
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Snake wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:50 pm Going 8-9 or 9-8 and getting BTFO in the first round means very little.
Depends on whether or not you feel like you’re building something. I’m not sure we are anymore.
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:34 pm
_MB_ wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:31 pm
You're going to look like LUGZ if he wins the division.
I won't look anything like Lugz unless I already do. My genetics is not changing based on the crappy play of division opponents.
Bro. What?

You look like LUGZ because you're calling for the Head Coach while the team is at 3-3 with a 1-1 division record.

This season is far from over and maybe at the end of it I'll be right there with you calling for Bowles head.... but maybe you're overreacting a bit?
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No way this team should have lost given all the breaks they got with Falcon turnovers. Pathetic performance. This is pretty much what most of us were expecting out of this team this season, so we shouldn’t be all that surprised.

Sadly, this is exactly the kind of loss that can sap a team’s confidence and snowball into a 4 or 5 win season. Or worse.

We will see soon enough I guess.
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_MB_ wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:00 pm
13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:34 pm

I won't look anything like Lugz unless I already do. My genetics is not changing based on the crappy play of division opponents.
Bro. What?

You look like LUGZ because you're calling for the Head Coach while the team is at 3-3 with a 1-1 division record.

This season is far from over and maybe at the end of it I'll be right there with you calling for Bowles head.... but maybe you're overreacting a bit?
No humor you have.

I don't understand how I am overreacting when I never wanted the man hired. Thought he should be fired last year (though I knew it would not happen). Overreaction, no.
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:16 pm
_MB_ wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:00 pm
Bro. What?

You look like LUGZ because you're calling for the Head Coach while the team is at 3-3 with a 1-1 division record.

This season is far from over and maybe at the end of it I'll be right there with you calling for Bowles head.... but maybe you're overreacting a bit?
No humor you have.

I don't understand how I am overreacting when I never wanted the man hired. Thought he should be fired last year (though I knew it would not happen). Overreaction, no.
I missed the joke. You know how I get when I'm on the wacky weed.

Carry on
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_MB_ wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:19 pm
13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:16 pm

No humor you have.

I don't understand how I am overreacting when I never wanted the man hired. Thought he should be fired last year (though I knew it would not happen). Overreaction, no.
I missed the joke. You know how I get when I'm on the wacky weed.

Carry on
Perhaps that is what Bowles needs. Wacky Weed. Then he would not be so uptight and conservative when coaching not to lose.
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:23 pm
_MB_ wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:19 pm

I missed the joke. You know how I get when I'm on the wacky weed.

Carry on
Perhaps that is what Bowles needs. Wacky Weed. Then he would not be so uptight and conservative when coaching not to lose.
I'll have @outsider pay him a visit.
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Miller4Prez64 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:33 pm
GreatTimes wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:27 pm Need to see if Trask can be a NFL caliber QB before thinking about drafting another QB.
We really don’t, but I wouldn’t mind just giving him a shot anyways at this point. Not against Buffalo on a short week, maybe the week after we can start him if Baker lays an egg on national TV.
That sounds about right. If Baker can play well against Buffalo he keeps his job, otherwise give Trask a chance against the Texans
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:23 pm
_MB_ wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:19 pm

I missed the joke. You know how I get when I'm on the wacky weed.

Carry on
Perhaps that is what Bowles needs. Wacky Weed. Then he would not be so uptight and conservative when coaching not to lose.
Went for it on 4th and 6 today. Has actually been clearly more aggressive this year. I don’t know where they played not to lose?

I felt like their usage of time at the end in their goal to go situation was poor. If you’re walking away with a FG there you make damn sure you do it with no time in the clock or the Falcons not having any timeouts.

Baker has played poorly the last two weeks. That’s why they’ve lost.
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Grahamburn wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:43 pm
13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:23 pm

Perhaps that is what Bowles needs. Wacky Weed. Then he would not be so uptight and conservative when coaching not to lose.
Went for it on 4th and 6 today. Has actually been clearly more aggressive this year. I don’t know where they played not to lose?
That 4th and 6 call is not what I would call aggressive unless you want to call it aggressively stupid.
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:50 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:43 pm

Went for it on 4th and 6 today. Has actually been clearly more aggressive this year. I don’t know where they played not to lose?
That 4th and 6 call is not what I would call aggressive unless you want to call it aggressively stupid.
It made zero sense at that point of the game: A 0-0 tie on the opening drive. Why?
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Bootz wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:01 pm
13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:50 pm

That 4th and 6 call is not what I would call aggressive unless you want to call it aggressively stupid.
It made zero sense at that point of the game: A 0-0 tie on the opening drive. Why?
Its the apocalypse folks. @Bootz and I agreeing on something. Game over for humanity.
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I cannot remember feeling this defeated this early in the season. It isn’t just that we lost two in a row now, it is that our offense seems to be playing on ambien. We collectively have 19 points in two games. Watching this game reminded me of my relationship with the anti-Christ years back-Me showing up to see how I could fix us. Him: Putting in just enough effort so I would think there was hope. Trauma bonding at its finest.

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Canales is a bad OC and will be gone after this season.
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Al Bundy wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:12 pm Canales is a bad OC and will be gone after this season.
Along with the dipshit who hired him.
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Bucs lose, Chiefs win. What an unfortunate week to be an NFL fan.
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Kyle Pitts made one hell of a catch.
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BucsNBills wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:21 pm Bucs lose, Chiefs win. What an unfortunate week to be an NFL fan.
That is most weeks for a Bowles coached team.
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Onthebrink wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:23 pm Kyle Pitts made one hell of a catch.
Don't you go giving credit to an unproven team fighting for respect against a the defending division champs.
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Do we play Denver?

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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:50 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:43 pm

Went for it on 4th and 6 today. Has actually been clearly more aggressive this year. I don’t know where they played not to lose?
That 4th and 6 call is not what I would call aggressive unless you want to call it aggressively stupid.
Ok? Which is it then? He’s aggressively stupid or plays to lose? Make up your mind.

I realize we’re all triggered after the last couple weeks, but I don’t think Bowles is the problem.
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There was a okay where Ridder scrambled to his right and Devin White completely abandoned his assignment and it ended up in a huge gain… terrible discipline. Would like to see @Nobody break that one down.

Pretty sure I saw Randy Arizarena at the game, yelled his name so my son could get a pic, but he ignored and he was with his wife and daughter so we turned around… still cool though.

Baker, I swear, the first IDK, 10 throws pump faked on ALL of them….WTF.
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