Who's the 2nd?

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Who's the 2nd best QB today

Josh Allen
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Joe Burrow
6
40%
Justin Herbert
2
13%
Jalen Hurts
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Lamar Jackson
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No votes
Tua Tagovailoa
7
47%
 
Total votes: 15

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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:11 am
Bootz wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:46 pm

Any missing names you think deserve consideration?
Stafford gets a mention from me for body of work.
I could see a case being made. He's fallen off so much though since he won the SB. And not to mention he didn't have much success Detroit.
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If Mahomes isn't your number #1, not much interest in your opinion about #2.
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Doctor wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:43 pm If Mahomes isn't your number #1, not much interest in your opinion about #2.
He did also question Brady being the GOAT and people believe the Earth is flat...not much anyone can do about that.
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uscbucsfan1 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:44 pm
Doctor wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:43 pm If Mahomes isn't your number #1, not much interest in your opinion about #2.
He did also question Brady being the GOAT and people believe the Earth is flat...not much anyone can do about that.
He came in here hoping for a fight.

He showed as much when he told you in 1 breath that championships and awards don't mean much but then turned around and said Brady not winning a championship without his best receiver in another is part of why he's not the GOAT.
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Bootz wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:56 pm
uscbucsfan1 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:44 pm

He did also question Brady being the GOAT and people believe the Earth is flat...not much anyone can do about that.
He came in here hoping for a fight.

He showed as much when he told you in 1 breath that championships and awards don't mean much but then turned around and said Brady not winning a championship without his best receiver in another is part of why he's not the GOAT.
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uscbucsfan1 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:57 pm
Bootz wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:56 pm

He came in here hoping for a fight.

He showed as much when he told you in 1 breath that championships and awards don't mean much but then turned around and said Brady not winning a championship without his best receiver in another is part of why he's not the GOAT.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
I could actually appreciate and respect that if he owned up to it. But he tried to deflect it on me and make it about "Bootz' history".
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uscbucsfan1 wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:57 pm
Bootz wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:56 pm

He came in here hoping for a fight.

He showed as much when he told you in 1 breath that championships and awards don't mean much but then turned around and said Brady not winning a championship without his best receiver in another is part of why he's not the GOAT.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Some people just like attention, not matter the form.
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Out of all the QBs playing right now, Mahommes has had the best career this far obviously. One could argue that Tua is playing the best ball right now though....

Key words, "right now"
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Selmon Rules wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:12 pm Out of all the QBs playing right now, Mahommes has had the best career this far obviously. One could argue that Tua is playing the best ball right now though....

Key words, "right now"
"Right now" is definitely the operative word. Last year this time, people were debating who was better out of Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. Now Josh Allen isn't even the best QB in his division.
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Selmon Rules wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:12 pm Out of all the QBs playing right now, Mahommes has had the best career this far obviously. One could argue that Tua is playing the best ball right now though....

Key words, "right now"
That was one of the reasons for my questioning the OP. It seemed like the question was "right now" the reasoning they gave was active players based on career. Seemed a little bit messed up IMHO.
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:27 am
Selmon Rules wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:12 pm Out of all the QBs playing right now, Mahommes has had the best career this far obviously. One could argue that Tua is playing the best ball right now though....

Key words, "right now"
That was one of the reasons for my questioning the OP. It seemed like the question was "right now" the reasoning they gave was active players based on career. Seemed a little bit messed up IMHO.
Even if you thought the question was "right now", you said you'd rank Burrow #1. So "right now" you think the best QB in football is a guy who has more turnover than TDs, is completing about 55% of his passes, has a 1-2 record and a QB rating around 66.

Tell me you have no credibility without telling me you have no credibility.
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Bootz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:14 pm
13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:27 am

That was one of the reasons for my questioning the OP. It seemed like the question was "right now" the reasoning they gave was active players based on career. Seemed a little bit messed up IMHO.
Even if you thought the question was "right now", you said you'd rank Burrow #1. So "right now" you think the best QB in football is a guy who has more turnover than TDs, is completing about 55% of his passes, has a 1-2 record and a QB rating around 66.

Tell me you have no credibility without telling me you have no credibility.
If I wanted to do that I would just change my name to Bootz.

Point stands. Your question was poorly worded and confusing.

I will say this: The best QB does not always end up with the best stats since this is a team game. Bad offensive line, bad receivers, bad running game, poor coaching, etc. All impact QB stats.

Next time word your question properly.
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13F11B wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:45 pm
Bootz wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:14 pm

Even if you thought the question was "right now", you said you'd rank Burrow #1. So "right now" you think the best QB in football is a guy who has more turnover than TDs, is completing about 55% of his passes, has a 1-2 record and a QB rating around 66.

Tell me you have no credibility without telling me you have no credibility.
If I wanted to do that I would just change my name to Bootz.

Point stands. Your question was poorly worded and confusing.

I will say this: The best QB does not always end up with the best stats since this is a team game. Bad offensive line, bad receivers, bad running game, poor coaching, etc. All impact QB stats.

Next time word your question properly.
Okay. What makes Joe Burrow the best QB in football this year?
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