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Max wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:27 pm
These Are The Days wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 8:58 am I'm absolutely inclined to believe everything went the Chiefs' way because of officiating. Did everyone forget how everything just magically got better with officiating in Bucs games the second they got Brady and how many lucky breaks the Bucs would get? Lucky breaks we hadn't seen ever just pouring in?
We benefited from penalties (especially roughing and PI) at a bottom-5 rate in 2020 and 2021.

3 Things about this:

1) Most calls are subjective, fans are heavily biased.

2) Fans are going to cherrypick the bad calls that went against them, while ignoring bad calls that benefitted them.

3) Bad calls are usually only talked about when they coincide with losing. Us winning a ton of games in 2020 and 2021 means that nobody cared about or remembered the calls that didn't go our way.

And that's how you end up with 32 fanbases thinking the refs are out to get them.

*This doesn't mean that individual games can't be decided by bad calls (they definitely are).
Every last bit of this is true but so often football can come down to one or two consequential plays. People can afford to forget when they win because teams can win a game by 17 points and thankfully that stupid call that never should have happened didn't cost them the game.

But I maintain this, Max. I don't care if it's 3rd and 22 or 1st and 10. If the whole Bucs offensive line hogtied anyone the way the Jets were while Jameis guns his way down the field, its coming back. Hell, Gerald McCoy once laid the lightest sack I've ever seen on a QB and got called for roughing Drew Brees. But give us Tom Brady and we got I don't even know how many breaks in the Super Bowl.

I don't ever expect officiating to be perfect but star power affects it more than necessary. If Brady is still able a Buc on week 1 vs Minnesota I don't think we'd have seen what we did there either. And yet we won
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Hope the officials get this call correct and rule that it was not a touchdown. His elbow touched.
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There's a penalty on every play
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sloppy play all over the place too.
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24 lost fumbles since 2019? That's disgusting.
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Even the long touchdown was sloppy bullshit. Terrible tackling
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Fant is short, but that was an amazing catch and run down the sideline
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Daboll inspires zero confidence from his team. None. The Seahawks are playing without 3 starters on their Oline and they are owning a Giants front with Dexter Lawrence and Leonard Williams. The Giants are playing without 2 starters on their Oline and Jones doesn't even have time to get to the top of his drop before he has pressure in his face.
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Holy God the Giants are SO bad at EVERYTHING
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Witherspoon is a star!

2 sacks and a pick 6. What a night for the rookie.
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Giants really paid Daniel Jones all that money.
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Daniel Jones is so bad. Oh my God man. Daboll needs to get out from under this guy or his head coaching career is going to be ruined
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Miller4Prez64 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:35 pm Giants really paid Daniel Jones all that money.
Someone somewhere at the top of the organization is begging for him to be the solution to all their problems. It's the only logical explanation
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These Are The Days wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:36 pm
Miller4Prez64 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:35 pm Giants really paid Daniel Jones all that money.
Someone somewhere at the top of the organization is begging for him to be the solution to all their problems. It's the only logical explanation
Another team that could’ve called Lamar Jackson and said “nah, I’m good”.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:33 pm Witherspoon is a star!

2 sacks and a pick 6. What a night for the rookie.
Such a stud. Loved him coming out. I think they got themselves a great one there.
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Brian Daboll is sweating harder than a whore in church. This poor man. I actually feel sorry for him
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8 sacks on Jones. And it's not as if he's dancing back there or holding the ball way too long. The Seahawks are on their ass.
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3rd time in the 1st 4 weeks of the season the Giants have gotten embarrassed on National TV. I get that they play in the NFL capital and the largest TV market. But c'mon man. That's pathetic.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:38 pm
These Are The Days wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:36 pm

Someone somewhere at the top of the organization is begging for him to be the solution to all their problems. It's the only logical explanation
Another team that could’ve called Lamar Jackson and said “nah, I’m good”.
They find new ways to lose every year don't they?
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I honest to God don’t think I’ve seen a QB used more loosely than Daniel Jones.

Guy takes more hits than David Carr’s nightmares.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:50 pm 3rd time in the 1st 4 weeks of the season the Giants have gotten embarrassed on National TV. I get that they play in the NFL capital and the largest TV market. But c'mon man. That's pathetic.
They and Dallas could both be 2-8 and so long as the game was in New York the NFL would say "Fuck it, that's a Monday night headliner right there"
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:53 pm I honest to God don’t think I’ve seen a QB used more loosely than Daniel Jones.

Guy takes more hits than David Carr’s nightmares.
9 sacks now
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These Are The Days wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:54 pm
Bootz wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:50 pm 3rd time in the 1st 4 weeks of the season the Giants have gotten embarrassed on National TV. I get that they play in the NFL capital and the largest TV market. But c'mon man. That's pathetic.
They and Dallas could both be 2-8 and so long as the game was in New York the NFL would say "Fuck it, that's a Monday night headliner right there"
And they'd say it with a straight face
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Bootz wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:57 pm
BJJ34 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:53 pm I honest to God don’t think I’ve seen a QB used more loosely than Daniel Jones.

Guy takes more hits than David Carr’s nightmares.
9 sacks now
Not just sacks, guy gets hit on nearly every play. They use him as an Dual Read QB, he escapes early on a lot of the plays too. He just takes a shit ton of hits. He has talent too from his first start til now.
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Just looked at the Giants schedule. They play in Buffalo on SNF in 2 weeks.

Seriously, who makes this fucking schedule?
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The single game record for sacks is 12; Warren Moon.

If they keep him in this game, he has a shot to get 10-11.
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Bootz wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:02 pm Just looked at the Giants schedule. They play in Buffalo on SNF in 2 weeks.

Seriously, who makes this fucking schedule?
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:03 pm The single game record for sacks is 12; Warren Moon.

If they keep him in this game, he has a shot to get 10-11.
There's 10
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:03 pm The single game record for sacks is 12; Warren Moon.

If they keep him in this game, he has a shot to get 10-11.

There's 10
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And 11.
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And 11.
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There's 11
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BJJ34 wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:08 pmAnd 11.
You called it.
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They are only crediting the Seahawks with 10?
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The Giants being awful isn’t something I know I needed. But I’m glad to see it happen.
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