Week 4 Discussion

[Bootz]

How many penalties affected this series? 3? Did I count those correctly?

Yep. Would've been 4 if Mahomes didn't get 25 yards on 3rd & 22 because of the illegal contact.

[BucsNBills]

Refs ensuring this drive succeeded ruined the entire game.

[Bootz]

Zach Wilson fumbled the game away literally.

[Bootz]

That's embarrassing..Salah is setting a terrible example.

[Primeminister]

Regardless Zach showed more tonight than any single moment of his career. The Jets were supposed to get blown out. If I’m a Jets fan I’m feeling better tomorrow than I have since the Rogers injury

[BucsNBills]

NVM, Mahomes back to being a bitch with that nonsense after he slid. Mahones played like shit and needed the refs to blatantly steal the game.

[Primeminister]

That's embarrassing..Salah is setting a terrible example.

What did he do?

[Doctor]

Damn, jets had no business being in this yet chiefs needed the refs heavy at the end. Wow.

[BucsNBills]

That's embarrassing..Salah is setting a terrible example.

What did he do?

Did what all of America wanted to do to the crooked refs

[Bootz]

That's embarrassing..Salah is setting a terrible example.

What did he do?

Threw a hissy fit when the game was sealed 10 minutes after a penalty he didn't like and got called for a penalty.

[Primeminister]

This is the 2nd national game this year when the refs leaned towards the Chiefs. The Lions overcame it but the Jets didn’t

[Primeminister]

That Lions game was blatant assistance from the refs. I’ve seen more fans getting sick of the Chiefs because of that

[BucsNBills]

They're in New York. Taylor Swift is there. The league actively pushed the Kelce Swift garage 6 the entire fucking game. Zero chance they were going to let Zach Wilson spoil the moment.

[Bootz]

Saying the refs helped the Chiefs is inaccurate and dishonest and only shows bias and jealousy of a championship winning team. No mention of the refs quite literally handing the Jets 2 points on the safety when Taylor was inaccurately called for a face mask in the endzone.

[Max]

Chiefs scored 20, 17 and 23 in non-Bears games.

Defenses are doing a better job forcing Mahomes to throw into tight coverage this season. He's thrown at least two interceptable passes in all but one game this year.

That's Jameis Winston territory.

[13F11B]

Saying the refs helped the Chiefs is inaccurate and dishonest and only shows bias and jealousy of a championship winning team. No mention of the refs quite literally handing the Jets 2 points on the safety when Taylor was inaccurately called for a face mask in the endzone.

More embellishment?

[Bootz]

2 instances of the refs "rigging" the game for the Chiefs. Horrible calls honestly.

[BucsNBills]

[Primeminister]

[Primeminister]

2 instances of the refs "rigging" the game for the Chiefs. Horrible calls honestly.

Agreed. Taylor sucks and committed a safety.

[Bootz]

2 instances of the refs "rigging" the game for the Chiefs. Horrible calls honestly.

Agreed. Taylor sucks and committed a safety.

He sucks without question. But the facemask starts at the 1 yard line, not in the endzone. That's not a safety. The NBC commentary official even said as much during the broadcast. People want to argue with the rule because it doesn't fit the narrative they want to tell.

Additionally as I stated, crickets on the Breece Hall facemask that somehow got turned into a horse collar.

[Bootz]

Umm PM, you should've watched the video. The guy says he understands why it was called holding, not that it was a terrible call.

[BucsNBills]

Wow

[BJJ34]

LUGZ pick up your whistle and become a referee..

[These Are The Days]

I'm absolutely inclined to believe everything went the Chiefs' way because of officiating. Did everyone forget how everything just magically got better with officiating in Bucs games the second they got Brady and how many lucky breaks the Bucs would get? Lucky breaks we hadn't seen ever just pouring in?

[13F11B]

Wow

Kinda looked like holding to me. What did you think?

[BucsNBills]

Lol the missed Smith hold is even worse from this angle. Ref literally staring at the hold and CHOOSING not to call it.

[13F11B]

I'm absolutely inclined to believe everything went the Chiefs' way because of officiating. Did everyone forget how everything just magically got better with officiating in Bucs games the second they got Brady and how many lucky the Bucs would get? Lucky breaks we hadn't seen ever just pouring in?

Oh, I remember the roughing the passer calls that Brady got that Winston did not.

[13F11B]

Lol the missed Smith hold is even worse from this angle. Ref literally staring at the hold and CHOOSING not to call it.

C'mon, he was just day dreaming about Tiffany being in the stands until he remembered it was actually Taylor Swift.

[13F11B]

Umm PM, you should've watched the video. The guy says he understands why it was called holding, not that it was a terrible call.

Embellishment? Willful ignoring 90% of what was being said in the video? Can you explain why you failed to mention that he said it was not holding. The reference to "understanding" was saying that the official may not have had a good view. Once again you are being dishonest with your posts.

[Bootz]

Umm PM, you should've watched the video. The guy says he understands why it was called holding, not that it was a terrible call.

Embellishment? Willful ignoring 90% of what was being said in the video? Can you explain why you failed to mention that he said it was not holding. The reference to "understanding" was saying that the official may not have had a good view. Once again you are being dishonest with your posts.

I'll explain that as soon as you explain the refs handing the Jets 2 points on a facemask at the 1 yard line. If you can't, then that's your explanation as well

[Doctor]

Script needs KC in Arrowhead in January.

[Max]

I'm absolutely inclined to believe everything went the Chiefs' way because of officiating. Did everyone forget how everything just magically got better with officiating in Bucs games the second they got Brady and how many lucky breaks the Bucs would get? Lucky breaks we hadn't seen ever just pouring in?

We benefited from penalties (especially roughing and PI) at a bottom-5 rate in 2020 and 2021.

3 Things about this:

1) Most calls are subjective, fans are heavily biased.

2) Fans are going to cherrypick the bad calls that went against them, while ignoring bad calls that benefitted them.

3) Bad calls are usually only talked about when they coincide with losing. Us winning a ton of games in 2020 and 2021 means that nobody cared about or remembered the calls that didn't go our way.

And that's how you end up with 32 fanbases thinking the refs are out to get them.

*This doesn't mean that individual games can't be decided by bad calls (they definitely are).

[13F11B]

Embellishment? Willful ignoring 90% of what was being said in the video? Can you explain why you failed to mention that he said it was not holding. The reference to "understanding" was saying that the official may not have had a good view. Once again you are being dishonest with your posts.

I'll explain that as soon as you explain the refs handing the Jets 2 points on a facemask at the 1 yard line. If you can't, then that's your explanation as well

I see ask me to explain an action I did not take or you won't explain an action you took. Brilliant. You should be a politician. Your skills of deflection rival the best of those worthless tossers.

[Doctor]

I don't get the Saleh hate. He's got a squad that bottled up Allen and Mahomes. With a decent QB this team is everything it should be. Why would you want to get rid of the architect of that? Defensive coaches don't get love.