Baker named starting QB

[Central_Buc]

So,... you are saying that Lance is Uncle Rico?

I think I remember people gushing over how Lance wouldn’t slide, wouldn’t go out of bounds, would lower his shoulder and run the ball like Larry Csonka, as if this was a desirable attribute for your franchise QB to possess.

Maybe he watched NFL films on Csonka and it was programmed in his brain. Like a twitch.

[Digital_Damage]

LOL... Trey Lance has been an epic shit show. He has shown that he is a bust and was stupid ass pick by the 49er's. Trash, has shown nothing either. I fully expect him to be a shit show too.

You want to know the difference? Trash is on a really shitty team and has shown he is a little bit less of a shit show that Lancy Pants. Lancy pants is fragile as fuck, both physically and mentally.

[Digital_Damage]

Everything now makes sense....

https://deadspin.com/baker-mayfield-nfl ... 1850766537

Lol. Isn’t Todd Bowles the head coach?

Don't let that get in the way of some grade A racist click bait... just look at the guys bio...

"Saginaw Native. Morehouse Man. Syracuse (Newhouse) Alum. 2019 & 2020 NABJ Award Winner. 2016 PABJ Journalist of the Year. I only eat my wings lemon-peppered. And I like brown liquor & brown women."

[Doctor]

Funny thing is if we hadn't been the team to draft him I'm 100% convinced Winston would be the revival project on deck right now.

[acmillis]

Funny thing is if we hadn't been the team to draft him I'm 100% convinced Winston would be the revival project on deck right now.

He led the league to n passing a few years back, he has skills and attributes that Trask doesn’t have.

Honestly, the only thing he really needs is moar thyme

[MJW]

Funny thing is if we hadn't been the team to draft him I'm 100% convinced Winston would be the revival project on deck right now.

That should maybe tell you something about Baker, if in your own words he'd be Plan B behind Jameis Fucking Winston.

[13F11B]

I'm kinda with Bootz on this. Nothing against Trask but I don't see a future here. On the other hand if he can develop into something decent, I don't mind him as a long term back up.

Can he be a decent BU like Frank Reich was? Traits like that is what I look for in a BU.

I don't see anything with Trask or Mayfield. My leaning toward Trask. I am not sure what he could become. Mayfield has had opportunities and has not produced. With Lance, he just has not made it either. Lots of dudes do well in college to fade in the NFL.

[Doctor]

Funny thing is if we hadn't been the team to draft him I'm 100% convinced Winston would be the revival project on deck right now.

That should maybe tell you something about Baker, if in your own words he'd be Plan B behind Jameis Fucking Winston.

Do you get a high from being mad

[kaimaru]

I'm kinda with Bootz on this. Nothing against Trask but I don't see a future here. On the other hand if he can develop into something decent, I don't mind him as a long term back up.

Can he be a decent BU like Frank Reich was? Traits like that is what I look for in a BU.

I don't see anything with Trask or Mayfield. My leaning toward Trask. I am not sure what he could become. Mayfield has had opportunities and has not produced. With Lance, he just has not made it either. Lots of dudes do well in college to fade in the NFL.

This is where you are wrong. He has produced, just like Jameis produced. The problem is the consistency, just like Jameis. He said he is different this year, and if he is then maybe we will do well. The biggest difference between Jameis and Baker is that Jameis still thinks he should be a #1 QB and that he doesn't need to change anything. Baker realizes he is at the crossroads of his career and that this is his last chance. Who knows, maybe he will not take as may risky throws. I guess we will see

[Babeinbucland]

I'm kinda with Bootz on this. Nothing against Trask but I don't see a future here. On the other hand if he can develop into something decent, I don't mind him as a long term back up.

Can he be a decent BU like Frank Reich was? Traits like that is what I look for in a BU.

This is the problem with this argument. None of us know WHAT Trask can be developed into because he has never been given a chance. Mayfield is ONLY the answer to the wrong question that was asked.

[Central_Buc]

I'm kinda with Bootz on this. Nothing against Trask but I don't see a future here. On the other hand if he can develop into something decent, I don't mind him as a long term back up.

Can he be a decent BU like Frank Reich was? Traits like that is what I look for in a BU.

This is the problem with this argument. None of us know WHAT Trask can be developed into because he has never been given a chance. Mayfield is ONLY the answer to the wrong question that was asked.

I mean, no one is giving Baker a chance either. Hes got a short leash if it's not gonna work out and then we'll see how Trask does.

If we are as bad as the National media thinks, we will see Trask on the field this year. But Trask isn't the end all because we will be drafting another QB. Caleb Williams or Drake Maye yes please.

Trask will probably start next year until the new guy is ready.

[Bootz]

I'm kinda with Bootz on this. Nothing against Trask but I don't see a future here. On the other hand if he can develop into something decent, I don't mind him as a long term back up.

Can he be a decent BU like Frank Reich was? Traits like that is what I look for in a BU.

This is the problem with this argument. None of us know WHAT Trask can be developed into because he has never been given a chance. Mayfield is ONLY the answer to the wrong question that was asked.

And as I said 3 days ago..

Yea its the "we haven't seen him suck yet, so let's see what he's got" mindset that poisoned this franchise during the Raheem Morris, Greg Schiano and Lovie Smith years. Back then, you get drafted by the Bucs, you had "upside" and were ikely starting whether you've earned it or not.

What I said previously was mainly in response to @Cheb's assessment of what Trask has done to "earn" a starting spot. Absolutely nothing.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Central_Buc]

I'm kinda with Bootz on this. Nothing against Trask but I don't see a future here. On the other hand if he can develop into something decent, I don't mind him as a long term back up.

Can he be a decent BU like Frank Reich was? Traits like that is what I look for in a BU.

I don't see anything with Trask or Mayfield. My leaning toward Trask. I am not sure what he could become. Mayfield has had opportunities and has not produced. With Lance, he just has not made it either. Lots of dudes do well in college to fade in the NFL.

Im not sure what you mean "he didn't produce" because he was drafted by the Browns who are, first of all, a graveyard for QBs who get drafted there. After some development he led them (in his final year) a playoff win and im pretty sure (IIRC in that game) came close to going to the AFC Championship, but Mahomes pulled away in the 4th. He was then unexpectedly kicked to the curb the following year for Watson (who right now isn't really producing at the moment either, but he'll have his full year. Like I said, Cleveland is where careers go to die and It'll be a challenge for Watson).

I'll make the arguement that the 2023 Bucs roster is better than Clevelands 2020 roster whom Baker almost lead to the AFC title game.

[These Are The Days]

Hell no. Hell no. You guys gotta stop talking about Winston being here in even a speculative capacity. I'd rather get food poisoning than ever watch him throw another pass 37 yards into quadruple coverage on a 2nd and 4 instead of taking the open man 6 yards down field.

[Snake]

I can’t wait for Jameis Winston‘s 30/30 to get a 30 for 30 episode.

[13F11B]

I don't see anything with Trask or Mayfield. My leaning toward Trask. I am not sure what he could become. Mayfield has had opportunities and has not produced. With Lance, he just has not made it either. Lots of dudes do well in college to fade in the NFL.

This is where you are wrong. He has produced, just like Jameis produced. The problem is the consistency, just like Jameis. He said he is different this year, and if he is then maybe we will do well. The biggest difference between Jameis and Baker is that Jameis still thinks he should be a #1 QB and that he doesn't need to change anything. Baker realizes he is at the crossroads of his career and that this is his last chance. Who knows, maybe he will not take as may risky throws. I guess we will see

OK. We will see. For the sake of my Buccaneers I hope I am wrong about Mayfield, but I have a feeling we will see Trask by game 4.

[13F11B]

Hell no. Hell no. You guys gotta stop talking about Winston being here in even a speculative capacity. I'd rather get food poisoning than ever watch him throw 37 yards into quadruple coverage on a 2nd and 4 instead of taking the open man 6 yards down field.

This board only lets me give a thumbs up, but this post deserved many more than that.

[_MB_]

That should maybe tell you something about Baker, if in your own words he'd be Plan B behind Jameis Fucking Winston.

Do you get a high from being mad

Getting her mad gets me off.

Close enough?

[Central_Buc]

To further my point, in the 2020 divisional round vs the Cheifs, Baker went 23-37 204 yards 1 Td and 1 pick, they lose 22-17 but came real close to the AFC Championship.

So one thing you can say about Baker that doesn't apply to Winston is there is some playoff success.

The wildcard game Baker was phenomenal vs the Steelers going 21-34 263 yards 3 TDs.

[Central_Buc]

Also speaking of Winston, a story popped up in my feed this morning that Saints fans are calling for Winston to start.

I guess Mr. Carr isn't doing so well this preseason.

[Grahamburn]

Carr’s career winning percentage is the same as Mayfield’s. And he’s been in the league twice as long. We gave Baker $4M. The Saints gave Carr $100M.

[Doctor]

Winston still very much has a flock of believers.

[Buc2]

Also speaking of Winston, a story popped up in my feed this morning that Saints fans are calling for Winston to start.

I guess Mr. Carr isn't doing so well this preseason.

I'm sure the Saints QB competition is just as real as the Bucs competition was.

[kaimaru]

Winston still very much has a flock of believers.

So far this preseason
Winston 5 sacks taken in 34 snaps
Other QBs 0 sacks taken in 42 drop backs

He's not even on our team and i feel like saying "get rid of the damn ball!"

[uscbucsfan1]

Winston still very much has a flock of believers.

So far this preseason
Winston 5 sacks taken in 34 snaps
Other QBs 0 sacks taken in 42 drop backs

He's not even on our team and i feel like saying "get rid of the damn ball!"

Ya, the only Saints fans I've seen saying Winston should start follow Jameis1of1 and they may be him.

Their message board seems like a heavy heavy majority are behind Carr.

[Selmon Rules]

Put me down for being in favor of Jameis starting for the Saints!!

[Central_Buc]

So far this preseason
Winston 5 sacks taken in 34 snaps
Other QBs 0 sacks taken in 42 drop backs

He's not even on our team and i feel like saying "get rid of the damn ball!"

Ya, the only Saints fans I've seen saying Winston should start follow Jameis1of1 and they may be him.

Their message board seems like a heavy heavy majority are behind Carr.

Article right here. Although I've never heard of this site so it could be they are not reputable.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/nfl/new ... etter-carr

[MJW]

Winston still very much has a flock of believers.

So does Charles Manson.

[BucsNBills]

So do Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf now have a new competitor for the biggest QB bust of all time?

[kaimaru]

So do Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf now have a new competitor for the biggest QB bust of all time?

Trask was a late second round pick so clearly not

[Cheb]

So do Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf now have a new competitor for the biggest QB bust of all time?

Russell and Leaf actively made their teams worse while costing picks at the top of the first round.

Trask hasn't done much as a second round pick, but his story is yet to be fully told. It wouldn't surprise me if Trask has started multiple games before Halloween, and by Thanksgiving he could be our undisputed QB1.

And even if Trask never amounts to much, having an inexpensive backup who is under team control ain't nothing. Top backups like Brissett are making north of $8 million a year, and dudes like Heinicke, Mariota, Dalton, and Trubisky are still being paid north of $5 million a year to hold a clipboard and make good jokes in the QB room. Trask for about a million is a steal imo, and if I were a general manager I would say it would nearly always be prudent to have at least one quarterback under a rookie contract, if not your starter then his backup.

[real bucs fan]

So do Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf now have a new competitor for the biggest QB bust of all time?

Trask was a late second round pick so clearly not

I’m assuming that was referring to Trey Lance.

[Doctor]

Given the rookie wage scale now in place I don't think any bust can be as bad as the past ones.

[kaimaru]

Trask was a late second round pick so clearly not

I’m assuming that was referring to Trey Lance.

Why? Comparing a pick 64 vs pick 1s or in Lance case pick 3 is ridiculous

[Doctor]