***Official 2024 Draft Thread!!***

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We need an absolute superstar for Logan Hall's position, if that doenst exist then we have to check if a great o-line or great d-line player will be available for our 2nd pick - so we can figure out our 1st pick.
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Phantom wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:18 pm
acmillis wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:14 pm No to a TE in the top 10
THIS. 100 percent.
I wouldn’t get too hung up on his position. He’s basically Gronk with more speed.
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Grahamburn wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:49 pm
Phantom wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:18 pm

THIS. 100 percent.
I wouldn’t get too hung up on his position. He’s basically Gronk with more speed.
...and a devastating injury.
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It’s just an ankle injury that he got repaired with a tightrope procedure?

I’m not seeing anything about ACL.

Tua had tightropes on both ankles and was back within weeks performing at near 100%.
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Snake wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:19 pm It’s just an ankle injury that he got repaired with a tightrope procedure?

I’m not seeing anything about ACL.

Tua had tightropes on both ankles and was back within weeks performing at near 100%.
He’ll probably be back for the SEC title game if not the playoffs. Weird take to say that’s “devastating.”

I’d just prefer to take an offensive weapon, who also excels at blocking AND loves football, over the 4th or 5th QB prospect.
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Williams: Giants, Bears, Vikings
Maye: Bears, Bucs, 49ers
Penix Jr: Raiders, Bucs, Falcons
Nix: Patriots, Rams, Giants
McCarthy; Patriots, Vikings, Bucs
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Phantom wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:59 pm Williams: Giants, Bears, Vikings
Maye: Bears, Bucs, 49ers
Penix Jr: Raiders, Bucs, Falcons
Nix: Patriots, Rams, Giants
McCarthy; Patriots, Vikings, Bucs
What are these?
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Phantom wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:20 pm
Snake wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:12 pm Look at the tankathon draft list today. At least five teams ahead of the Buccaneers would be open to taking a top ranked quarterback. I understand it’s supposed to be a historically strong draft at quarterback, but still…
Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles Rams, Arizona, Green Bay and Bucs? Sounds about right. If we can’t land top 3 QB, Kirk Cousins?

Here’s pff ranking for 2024 qb class

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl ... arterbacks

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Here is what ESPN NFL draft analyst Matt Miller said about Tampa Bay potentially selecting Maye:

If the Buccaneers are selecting in the top five next April, neither Baker Mayfield nor Kyle Trask did enough to cement the QB1 job long term. Given the low investment made in both of them, it stands to reason Tampa Bay would move on if given the chance to draft a premier prospect. Maye is built like Justin Herbert at 6-4 and 230 pounds and has high-end downfield passing ability and pocket mobility. He broke out in his first season as a starter for the Tar Heels in 2022, throwing 38 touchdown passes to seven interceptions.
If Drake Maye is on the board (assuming Williams isn't) and we don't draft him I'm fucking done.
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If we lose enough games to get in position for him I don’t think you have to worry.

I just don’t see us top 2-3. Maybe top 5 if it goes bad and we could try to move up for Maye.

Going to be a lot of competition for him though.
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MJW wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:42 am
Phantom wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:20 pm

Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles Rams, Arizona, Green Bay and Bucs? Sounds about right. If we can’t land top 3 QB, Kirk Cousins?

Here’s pff ranking for 2024 qb class

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl ... arterbacks

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If Drake Maye is on the board (assuming Williams isn't) and we don't draft him I'm fucking done.
Can you suggest a tape on him? I'm not hearing much hype.
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Bowers looks to be back from his catastrophic injury.
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No way we trade up
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I think Bo Nix is somebody that could run this offense pretty well.
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I think Marvin Harrison Jr. goes first overall
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Phantom wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:05 pm I think Marvin Garrison goes first overall
Who do you think starts at QB for the Bears next season?
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I honestly don't know. If I’m the Bears GM, I’ll draft Maye or Williams.. then trade Fields to QB-needy teams. (Hope the Bucs are not one of them)
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The Giants not giving up on Jones so they’re most likely to draft Harrison jr at #1

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/ ... niel-jones
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I don’t believe any of that.
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What guard would make a fantastic center in this draft
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Ask Snake.
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Phantom wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:39 pmAsk Snake.

Did he clock out and go home
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That's a good question.
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:21 pm What guard would make a fantastic center in this draft
Where do you come up with this stuff Mdb?
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Snake wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:16 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:21 pm What guard would make a fantastic center in this draft
Where do you come up with this stuff Mdb?

I figured if we want a great running game we need a great center.
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mdb1958 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:21 pm What guard would make a fantastic center in this draft
The last interior lineman that Jason Licht drafted who actually played guard or center in college was Kadeem Edwards. In 2014. The same draft class as Mike Evans. Nine years ago.

Don't hold your breath on drafting a guard or center. Licht thinks he's cracked the DaVinci code by exclusively drafting tackles and playing them on the interior. And perhaps unsurprisingly, we haven't had a good inside run game throughout his tenure, despite four different head coaches and across multiple offenses. If only there were a common denominator here.
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Cheb wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:28 am
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:21 pm What guard would make a fantastic center in this draft
The last interior lineman that Jason Licht drafted who actually played guard or center in college was Kadeem Edwards. In 2014. The same draft class as Mike Evans. Nine years ago.

Don't hold your breath on drafting a guard or center. Licht thinks he's cracked the DaVinci code by exclusively drafting tackles and playing them on the interior. And perhaps unsurprisingly, we haven't had a good inside run game throughout his tenure, despite four different head coaches and across multiple offenses. If only there were a common denominator here.

Gilbert and Goodwin?
Warhop?
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Cheb wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:28 am
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:21 pm What guard would make a fantastic center in this draft
The last interior lineman that Jason Licht drafted who actually played guard or center in college was Kadeem Edwards. In 2014. The same draft class as Mike Evans. Nine years ago.

Don't hold your breath on drafting a guard or center. Licht thinks he's cracked the DaVinci code by exclusively drafting tackles and playing them on the interior. And perhaps unsurprisingly, we haven't had a good inside run game throughout his tenure, despite four different head coaches and across multiple offenses. If only there were a common denominator here.
Maybe his goal wasn’t to have a great running game but a great passing one? Which, he definitely has accomplished. Bucs’ lines have graded out highly in pass blocking for several years now.

Just a thought.
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They are just getting a taste of who can whup their butt and who can't. I think that falls into getting reps can help you improve.
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I don't know why you're so obsessed with center
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Phantom wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:58 pm I don't know why you're so obsessed with center
Not saying that all of them can't get better but who is the weak link on our offensive line right now? I simply do not know if they can get stronger than the players they are facing for run blocking and for that matter it very well could continue with future draft picks used for the line.
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Here’s an update WalteFootball update mock draft

3 Qbs taken in the first round

Bears- Caleb Williams

Falcons- Jayden Daniels

Bucs- JJ McCarthy? Over Bo Nix? I don't know about that.
https://walterfootball.com/draft2024.php
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Phantom wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:08 pm Here’s an update WalteFootball update mock draft

3 Qbs taken in the first round

Bears- Caleb Williams

Falcons- Jayden Daniels

Bucs- JJ McCarthy? Over Bo Nix? I don't know about that.
https://walterfootball.com/draft2024.php
Drake Maye #3 to the Pats.

I don’t expect the 5th QB in the first round helps us that much and don’t think we should go that direction.
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Phantom wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:08 pm Here’s an update WalteFootball update mock draft

3 Qbs taken in the first round

Bears- Caleb Williams

Falcons- Jayden Daniels

Bucs- JJ McCarthy? Over Bo Nix? I don't know about that.
https://walterfootball.com/draft2024.php
Any mock with Michael Penix and Bo Nix left out of the first round isn’t very reliable.
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Navybuc wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:22 am
Phantom wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:08 pm Here’s an update WalteFootball update mock draft

3 Qbs taken in the first round

Bears- Caleb Williams

Falcons- Jayden Daniels

Bucs- JJ McCarthy? Over Bo Nix? I don't know about that.
https://walterfootball.com/draft2024.php
Any mock with Michael Penix and Bo Nix left out of the first round isn’t very reliable.

I agree.
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